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Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Retired, ON
Joined: 07.24.2011

Jan 17 @ 3:40 PM ET
I don't think you or Arctic are following. To increase the high, most weed available anywhere have had CBD phased out of it despite the science that says that CBD was the reason it isn't addictive, and that it actually helped stop side efffects like early onset schizophrenia and other bi-polar reactions.

My comment is that if we were going to legalize it, it would have been a good thing to get the CBD back into it.

As for it not being addictive...once upon a time it wasn't at all, but the way it is being produced today, with no CBD and higher THC, well, guess what, it is.

- mykokes

I'm usually all for science, but cases like this really make me shake my head.

First of all, they tested what, 3 shops in Toronto? When I smoke i don't measure the THC or CBD levels.. you either like it or you don't. Some people like a heavy kush, some like a sativa.. you guys are talking about THC levels the same way you'd talk about alcohol %... there's no comparison. With weed you smoke until you hit your desired level of high.. alcohol you drink until you're drunk and unfortunatly most people don't know when that it. People will be allowed to grow their own, and if they don't like these apparent THC only strains then they'll grow one to their liking.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jan 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
I will when I get home

But this is almost exclusively what I refer to as "city weed". Which, granted, is far more powerful, but isn't what I would call my "go-to". It is enjoyable, albeit on a different level than the stuff I'm talking about

- WingmanWillie


Right, city weed. And the problem is that dispensaries are following suit. The weed you're talking about is probably the same poop I smoke, and there's a reason why I smoke it. I have certain dealers I will buy from, and others I say no (frank)ing chance. Because I see what their poop has done to my buddies. The Marketplace interviews (not all in the show) answered many of my questions why. My wife made me watch it and all the footage (she works for the show as an editor) and i don't regret it.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jan 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
The answer is yes.
- TheMussel


Definetely a cop.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jan 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
Yeah, I do. I was a tree planter for three years, it was a necessity. Will I still smoke it? Damn right I will. Do i think its harmful? Well knowing what i know now, I'm a lot more cautious.

As for anxiety and paranoia subsiding, yeah, it does. I fall asleep now whenever I smoke it. But the poop I smoke now isn't the poop I smoked when I was 19-26
Want to know something else? I'm 37 years old today, and several of my buddies who smoked it regularly with me....guess what....they have Schizophrenia, and have been told they are no longer allowed to smoke weed (but of course they still do).

Seriously, watch the test part of the Marketplace show. There's a reason for the anxiety and the paranoia in the first place, and there's also a reason why it subsides. It's not because you built up some sort of tolerance.

- mykokes

can you explain how they develop Schizophrenia from smoking?

Is there a risk for occasional smokers today?
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jan 17 @ 3:41 PM ET
#weedbuzz
- TheMussel


Get used to it.

When the Leafs are winning, its all about

#meatbuzz
#politicsbuzz
#Jaysbuzz
#weedbuzz

and occasionally that (frank)ing Lums turns it into #soccerbuzz. Yeah, that's right I said soccer. So damn your footy and damn you!
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Jan 17 @ 3:42 PM ET
Get used to it.

When the Leafs are winning, its all about

#meatbuzz
#politicsbuzz
#Jaysbuzz
#weedbuzz

and occasionally that (frank)ing Lums turns it into #soccerbuzz. Yeah, that's right I said soccer. So damn your footy and damn you!

- WingmanWillie


that lums really is the worst

like so, so bad
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 17 @ 3:42 PM ET
The answer is yes.
- TheMussel


I think he meant not pretending to be a 12 year old kid to catch pedos.
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jan 17 @ 3:43 PM ET
Right, city weed. And the problem is that dispensaries are following suit. The weed you're talking about is probably the same poop I smoke, and there's a reason why I smoke it. I have certain dealers I will buy from, and others I say no (frank)ing chance. Because I see what their poop has done to my buddies. The Marketplace interviews (not all in the show) answered many of my questions why. My wife made me watch it and all the footage (she works for the show as an editor) and i don't regret it.
- mykokes



Nice.

Yeah, some of that indoor stuff is bonkers. My buddy brings it to parties from time to time and it gets ya right farked
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jan 17 @ 3:43 PM ET
Yeah, I do. I was a tree planter for three years, it was a necessity. Will I still smoke it? Damn right I will. Do i think its harmful? Well knowing what i know now, I'm a lot more cautious.

As for anxiety and paranoia subsiding, yeah, it does. I fall asleep now whenever I smoke it. But the poop I smoke now isn't the poop I smoked when I was 19-26
Want to know something else? I'm 37 years old today, and several of my buddies who smoked it regularly with me....guess what....they have Schizophrenia, and have been told they are no longer allowed to smoke weed (but of course they still do).

Seriously, watch the test part of the Marketplace show. There's a reason for the anxiety and the paranoia in the first place, and there's also a reason why it subsides. It's not because you built up some sort of tolerance.

- mykokes


Not reading back on whatever is going on in here but on your part about mental health. Weed doesn't cause these things or develop them, it can exacerbate or reveal them however. Whether it's good or not that these issues can reveal themselves is debatable really.

Source; I have a friend who had some underlying issues and when he became perma-stoned his mental health issues started coming through in the worst way.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jan 17 @ 3:44 PM ET
Nice.

Yeah, some of that indoor stuff is bonkers. My buddy brings it to parties from time to time and it gets ya right farked

- WingmanWillie


Happened to me at Bonnarroo a few years back. Shatter. Heart beating in my eyeballs.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 17 @ 3:44 PM ET
can you explain how they develop Schizophrenia from smoking?

Is there a risk for occasional smokers today?

- twiztedmike


It's been theorized that narcotics will draw out symptoms in people that are genetically predisposed to the condition.

The danger is in that it happens suddenly instead of slowly.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 17 @ 3:45 PM ET
Do any regular pot smokers find that they don't sleep right on nights if they didn't smoke any that day?

Asking for a friend. Thanks in advance.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jan 17 @ 3:45 PM ET
You'll need goggles to walk thru Trinity Bellwood Park.
- The Law


I'm a 3 minute walk to that park. I walked my dog there once upon a time. Now my cat goes there with out me.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Jan 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
I'm usually all for science, but cases like this really make me shake my head.

First of all, they tested what, 3 shops in Toronto? When I smoke i don't measure the THC or CBD levels.. you either like it or you don't. Some people like a heavy kush, some like a sativa.. you guys are talking about THC levels the same way you'd talk about alcohol %... there's no comparison. With weed you smoke until you hit your desired level of high.. alcohol you drink until you're drunk and unfortunatly most people don't know when that it. People will be allowed to grow their own, and if they don't like these apparent THC only strains then they'll grow one to their liking.

- Arctic_AARDVARK


You really didn't read it or watch it did you. You have your mind made up, you're pulling a Tanner.

First paragraph:
When producers visited seven Toronto dispensaries and collected 12 of the most popular marijuana strains, laboratory test results showed average THC levels of around 20 per cent. THC is the active ingredient that provides pot's high.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
Happened to me at Bonnarroo a few years back. Shatter. Heart beating in my eyeballs.
- markmark


(frank) that poop is intense. Now that I saw how it's made - that poop ain't even weed anymore. It's like the coca leaf vs. cocaine.
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jan 17 @ 3:46 PM ET
Happened to me at Bonnarroo a few years back. Shatter. Heart beating in my eyeballs.
- markmark


Yeah a few of my buddies have started bringing around these "shatter pens" for convenience and because they don't really smell

I didn't find they affected me too much differently, but I really think that's due to my heavy pot use in my late teens and early 20's. I'm able to identify when these random feelings of apprehension or whatever start to show up, and can usually shrug them off for what they are, which is just me being baked hah
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jan 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
Baseball is awesome to help you fall asleep.
Quit being a hater.

- Fakepartofme


you omitted something there so I added there for ya.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 17 @ 3:47 PM ET
can you explain how they develop Schizophrenia from smoking?

Is there a risk for occasional smokers today?

- twiztedmike


No. Don't be silly Man. My name? Oh. Let me tell you my name. Ah… I’m confused. Because, uh… you know… we’re supposed to believe in the ministry, right? So, is… is… is the church and state supposed to be separate? I’m confused cause I never went to school. Right? Is a confused person get a resolution? I don’t understand. You see, when you go like that, right, you have a cross. Two sticks. Right? And that’s how I felt, when I was in Waterloo. Because when I walked, in Waterloo, and smiled at people, they treated me like a vampire. They used the cross, and they went like this, by not smiling at me. In Toronto – oh, hi guys, you know me, Steve Spiros, easy going? Those who know me, I’m a nobody. You understand? And you can’t kill a person with no body. So… why am I afraid? I’m not afraid. I’m afraid of the Boogeyman! Who’s the Boogeyman? You figure it out! I’m getting outta here! I’m going back to Waterloo where the vampires hang out! And I’m gonna wear my sunglasses at night! You know why? Because women show their tits… have short skirts, and then they feel violated when I look at them! Why? Because I have sunglasses on and I’m weird.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 17 @ 3:48 PM ET
(frank) that poop is intense. Now that I saw how it's made - that poop ain't even weed anymore. It's like the coca leaf vs. cocaine.
- 1979AD


Cocaine is probably better than coca leaf
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 17 @ 3:48 PM ET
Especially without Hunlak

Much as I want to upgrade on them, taking both out would impact the PK quite a bit, and it's been dynamite lately

I'd rather it be Polak who comes out if anyone

What a conundrum

- WingmanWillie


covered in a mystery and wrapped up in an enigma
WingmanWillie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: A dog on the puck, just looking for a snizzbone
Joined: 04.17.2015

Jan 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
Do any regular pot smokers find that they don't sleep right on nights if they didn't smoke any that day?

Asking for a friend. Thanks in advance.

- 1979AD


Tbh, that's probably a sign that you should take a break, start to skip every other day or something

I know that my life currently really only allows for the odd party or a weekend. Twice, 3 times a month at the very most, and I don't have any adverse effects

In fact, I find I get way more high and have a better time when I am not a chronic smoker
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Jan 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
#weedbuzz
- TheMussel



the good kind
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 17 @ 3:49 PM ET
Tbh, that's probably a sign that you should take a break, start to skip every other day or something

I know that my life currently really only allows for the odd party or a weekend. Twice, 3 times a month at the very most, and I don't have any adverse effects

In fact, I find I get way more high and have a better time when I am not a chronic smoker

- WingmanWillie


OK, cool. I'll let him know.
markmark
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 07.27.2010

Jan 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
Do any regular pot smokers find that they don't sleep right on nights if they didn't smoke any that day?

Asking for a friend. Thanks in advance.

- 1979AD


I'm anywhere from 4-7 days a week in the evenings. I don't find it makes a difference without. I guess I'd be considered high (hehe) functioning though. I generally cook and clean after a couple one-hitters. I zen out so hard when doing food prep
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jan 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
Do any regular pot smokers find that they don't sleep right on nights if they didn't smoke any that day?

Asking for a friend. Thanks in advance.

- 1979AD


Hey Toronto the Good, look at, look at this square. It was a poop hole when I worked here. Now it looks like New York, Manhattan.

Where are the bums? There’re no bums here. Toronto doesn’t have bums. But Waterloo, they’re creating bums! They created me! Why? I don’t know! Maybe it’s the Church. Talk to the Pope, he knows everything. I’ve had it! I’m gonna die. How can you ki– die when you’re dead?!

Oh wait a second. I’m going to be crucified right? I’m not gonna raise my voice. Because I’m committed to the Lord.
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