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JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jan 17 @ 9:11 AM ET
Hope what happened to players like Peca has not happened to Ladd. Anything is possible. I would still put him back with JT and especially since JT is playing so well. Ladd has been lousy, but only 5 games with JT is dumb.
- ses111

Ladd does not deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Peca. The Isles never missed the playoffs while Peca was their captain, and I highly doubt it was due to the stellar play of Alexi Ca$hin or Garth Snow.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 9:17 AM ET
Ladd does not deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Peca. The Isles never missed the playoffs while Peca was their captain, and I highly doubt it was due to the stellar play of Alexi Ca$hin or Garth Snow.
- JohnScammo



Alexai Cashin hahahahah thats fantastic.

I think its pretty obvious that Capuano is not a coach for veterans. Guys like Ladd are prob like phuck off.........you never did sh!t
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 17 @ 9:31 AM ET
Ladd does not deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Peca. The Isles never missed the playoffs while Peca was their captain, and I highly doubt it was due to the stellar play of Alexi Ca$hin or Garth Snow.
- JohnScammo


To be fair John, Peca never played for Cappy. Ladd has been lousy this year, but the guy has a very solid resume with two Cups. Nice use of Ca$hin by the way.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 17 @ 9:31 AM ET
Alexai Cashin hahahahah thats fantastic.

I think its pretty obvious that Capuano is not a coach for veterans. Guys like Ladd are prob like phuck off.........you never did sh!t

- kindlyrick


Cappy is not a coach for vets or young players or animals.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 17 @ 9:37 AM ET
Cappy is not a coach for vets or young players or animals.
- ses111


Oh I'm sure he could teach a chimp to use a spoon. Maybe even Gudas if he was given enough time.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 17 @ 9:41 AM ET
Oh I'm sure he could teach a chimp to use a spoon. Maybe even Gudas if he was given enough time.
- Wildschwein



ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 17 @ 9:45 AM ET

Arthur Staple
@StapeNewsday
Goals in three straight for Chimera, who now has eight on the year. Same as Ladd.

This will make 7 very happy.
JohnScammo
New York Islanders
Location: Coming to a jail near you
Joined: 10.14.2014

Jan 17 @ 9:48 AM ET
To be fair John, Peca never played for Cappy. Ladd has been lousy this year, but the guy has a very solid resume with two Cups. Nice use of Ca$hin by the way.
- ses111

And to be fair, ses, Ladd never got to play for Steve Stirling....
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

Jan 17 @ 9:49 AM ET
Arthur Staple
@StapeNewsday
Goals in three straight for Chimera, who now has eight on the year. Same as Ladd.

This will make 7 very happy.

- ses111


Slow start for Chimera but 16 points in 42 games for a 37 year old dude really ain't that bad. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see him score 15 goals and 30+ points before seasons end.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 9:56 AM ET
Slow start for Chimera but 16 points in 42 games for a 37 year old dude really ain't that bad. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see him score 15 goals and 30+ points before seasons end.
- Wildschwein



Chimera is not the problem........quite frankly Ladd isnt either. We saw last year the Penguins who have all world talent sh!t the bed, and then changed coaches and looked what happened. Its become PAINFULLY clear that Capuano has lost this team. I dont care that they won 4-0 yesterday.....it doesn't change the obvious.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 17 @ 9:56 AM ET
And to be fair, ses, Ladd never got to play for Steve Stirling....
- JohnScammo




Can you imagine playing for Cappy and Stirling?
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jan 17 @ 9:57 AM ET
Arthur Staple
@StapeNewsday
Goals in three straight for Chimera, who now has eight on the year. Same as Ladd.

This will make 7 very happy.

- ses111



Chimera will be more productive than Martin which was an easy decision, Ladd will produce pts but his style of play wasnt essentially needed for the roster, but cant redo what smucko did....
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jan 17 @ 9:58 AM ET
Chimera is not the problem........quite frankly Ladd isnt either. We saw last year the Penguins who have all world talent sh!t the bed, and then changed coaches and looked what happened. Its become PAINFULLY clear that Capuano has lost this team. I dont care that they won 4-0 yesterday.....it doesn't change the obvious.
- kindlyrick



Bingo....
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

Jan 17 @ 10:00 AM ET
Chimera is not the problem........quite frankly Ladd isnt either. We saw last year the Penguins who have all world talent sh!t the bed, and then changed coaches and looked what happened. Its become PAINFULLY clear that Capuano has lost this team. I dont care that they won 4-0 yesterday.....it doesn't change the obvious.
- kindlyrick


Ladd is a big problem considering we were expecting him to replace 60pt KO
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 10:01 AM ET
Bingo....
- Ur Not Me



You dont win two cups if you suck.........like I said earlier, case in point Halak. You dont outplay EVERY goalie in worlds and then all of a sudden suck. There are MAJOR problems within this organization and unfortunately is shows on the ice.

I forget where I read it, but the fact that the owners have remained silent is a good thing for us fans. They did not sign up for this horrific display. As soon as a new president is announced we can all exhale. I give all Islander fans credit, cause this has been the worst managed team in all prof sports (no need to list other crap teams). Two plus decades of mismanagement!!!!!
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 10:04 AM ET
Ladd is a big problem considering we were expecting him to replace 60pt KO
- Danformo



Can you imagine being in Ladds shoes, and having to play under this regime??? The guys used to professional coaching and management.

I'd bet dollars to donuts that Ladd signed here with the understanding that he'd be playing with JT. I guarentee you if they had a legit RW who was elite talent, Ladd coulda fit nicely with them. Ladd could have been the net prescence compliment to a 1-2 punch of JT and a talented RW. He's not a carry the team on your back guy.....and wihtout a RW he was expected to do so.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jan 17 @ 10:10 AM ET
Ladd is a big problem considering we were expecting him to replace 60pt KO
- Danformo


Right there is the problem, how can u expect when everyone thought he'll play w/JT and hasnt. The lack of talent and line combo's is the 1st issue at hand.....
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jan 17 @ 10:11 AM ET
You dont win two cups if you suck.........like I said earlier, case in point Halak. You dont outplay EVERY goalie in worlds and then all of a sudden suck. There are MAJOR problems within this organization and unfortunately is shows on the ice.

I forget where I read it, but the fact that the owners have remained silent is a good thing for us fans. They did not sign up for this horrific display. As soon as a new president is announced we can all exhale. I give all Islander fans credit, cause this has been the worst managed team in all prof sports (no need to list other crap teams). Two plus decades of mismanagement!!!!!

- kindlyrick


Halak has mental breakdowns but doesnt suck for sure, if it worked last year, why wouldnt it work this year ....
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 10:13 AM ET
Halak has mental breakdowns but doesnt suck for sure, if it worked last year, why wouldnt it work this year ....
- Ur Not Me



The answers are all in front of us.......Halak complained about the three goalie rotation for 2 years. At some point, he said phuck it........im getting paid no matter what. Im sure Ladd is feeling the same thing. Similar things are happening and its not by coincidence. Professionals or not, these guys are human, and while they're not gonna publically chirp, their on ice performance says it all. They're not happy, like we as fans aren't happy.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 17 @ 10:16 AM ET
Right there is the problem, how can u expect when everyone thought he'll play w/JT and hasnt. The lack of talent and line combo's is the 1st issue at hand.....
- Ur Not Me


I thought the whole idea of signing Ladd was to play him with JT? 5 games is a joke. JT missed camp and it was going to take time.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 10:17 AM ET
Right there is the problem, how can u expect when everyone thought he'll play w/JT and hasnt. The lack of talent and line combo's is the 1st issue at hand.....
- Ur Not Me



Reason 345 why Snow is incapable. Some GMs build from the goalie out, and some from the center down. Snow tried to build from the middle, yet his first line is not a first line. In 10 years, he's only had a first line for 40 some odd game (Vanek/JT/KO). So his recipe for success has been missing a few ingredients....
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 17 @ 10:18 AM ET
Slow start for Chimera but 16 points in 42 games for a 37 year old dude really ain't that bad. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see him score 15 goals and 30+ points before seasons end.
- Wildschwein


Chimera should have been used with Cal and Casey on a checking line. Chimera and Ladd have both not be used correctly.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 10:18 AM ET
I thought the whole idea of signing Ladd was to play him with JT? 5 games is a joke. JT missed camp and it was going to take time.
- ses111



Its also more than that. Ladd isnt what I would call a "skill" guy. He's a great compliment to a 1-2 punch of say JT and Duschene. Those two could open the ice up and create space, and Ladd can bang home a few. But to ask him to be carrying the puck and chip and chase, is not really getting the most out of him. He's a dirty area guy.....
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jan 17 @ 10:19 AM ET
Prediction:

There will be many changes in the offseason, the offense will improve greatly. But Snow will trade Greiss at the deadline and try to go with Berube in goal next year and it will be disastrous.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 17 @ 10:21 AM ET
Prediction:

There will be many changes in the offseason, the offense will improve greatly. But Snow will trade Greiss at the deadline and try to go with Berube in goal next year and it will be disastrous.

- eichiefs9



Snow wont be here in the offseason.
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