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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jan 16 @ 5:41 PM ET
Mtl will be using those 2nd rounders.
you can bank on it
.

They are going all in this year.
Burrows would be a great addition, it's a win-win-win.

- dbot

Yup
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 16 @ 5:41 PM ET
Mtl will be using those 2nd rounders.
you can bank on it.

They are going all in this year.
Burrows would be a great addition, it's a win-win-win.

- dbot


i'd also pitch them Sbisa, as they could use some insurance on the backend.

Salary is an issue though, as Mtl are v close to the cap, but that's why you have accountants and lawyers on mgmt teams.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 16 @ 5:42 PM ET
woah.

just quoted myself.

i think i've had enough HB for this morning.

time to find some work to do.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 16 @ 5:44 PM ET
Then we would have Sbisa only left from the Kesler trade.


Benning will not let Sutter go for free

- VANTEL


If Sbisa is claimed, we have no one left from the original Kesler trade after only a couple seasons
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jan 16 @ 5:49 PM ET
I think you mean 4:20
- A_SteamingLombardi

DutchSenators
Location: Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam
Joined: 06.07.2015

Jan 16 @ 6:05 PM ET
So who will the Canucks protect?

Forwards: D. Sedin, H. Sedin, Horvat, Sutter, Eriksson, Hansen, Baertschi

Defense: Edler, Tanev, Gudbranson

This basically means Granlund is gone, unless Vegas picks Rodin or Sbisa. Is there a chance the Canucks trade Hansen (he seems the most likely one to trade out of that list) to keep Granlund?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 16 @ 6:08 PM ET
Someone said Burrows was worth a 2nd if 50%+ salary is retained. That would be SUPER ideal for us but I doubt it happens. I would take Montreal's 2nd (WSH) for Burrows and 50% salary retained.
- Codes1087

Burrows for conditional 4th. Becomes 3rd of makes ECF, becomes automatic 2nd if Burrows gets 5 or more goals in playoffs.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 16 @ 6:09 PM ET
Someone said Burrows was worth a 2nd if 50%+ salary is retained. That would be SUPER ideal for us but I doubt it happens. I would take Montreal's 2nd (WSH) for Burrows and 50% salary retained.
- Codes1087




Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jan 16 @ 6:10 PM ET
We are one of the teams in the best position. Whoever we lose is 100% replaceable in UFA. Would just cost a few more $$.
- Retinalz



Curious which UFA's u see as replacements next season?
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 16 @ 6:14 PM ET
So who will the Canucks protect?

Forwards: D. Sedin, H. Sedin, Horvat, Sutter, Eriksson, Hansen, Baertschi

Defense: Edler, Tanev, Gudbranson

This basically means Granlund is gone, unless Vegas picks Rodin or Sbisa. Is there a chance the Canucks trade Hansen (he seems the most likely one to trade out of that list) to keep Granlund?

- DutchSenators


I wasnt so sure before, because Hansen is probably worth more to Vancouver than the likely trade price, but given the performance of Sven and Granlund this year I think you have to push for a trade to open a protection spot.

Even if Granlund falls short of 20 goals, I cant imagine Vegas would pass on a young forward with under 200 GP who had between 15 and 20 goals in a season. Its a low risk, high reward if his development can continue
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 16 @ 6:14 PM ET
Curious which UFA's u see as replacements next season?
- Nighthawk



I would look at Brian Boyle next year for the fourth line for 2-3 years and same with TJ Oshie for playmaking skills max 3 years
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 16 @ 6:14 PM ET
If Sbisa is claimed, we have no one left from the original Kesler trade after only a couple seasons
- WhiteLie

Except upgrades.

Sutter is an upgrade on Bones
Guddy is an upgrade on McCann
Cap space is an upgrade on Sbisa
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 16 @ 6:15 PM ET
So who will the Canucks protect?

Forwards: D. Sedin, H. Sedin, Horvat, Sutter, Eriksson, Hansen, Baertschi

Defense: Edler, Tanev, Gudbranson

This basically means Granlund is gone, unless Vegas picks Rodin or Sbisa. Is there a chance the Canucks trade Hansen (he seems the most likely one to trade out of that list) to keep Granlund?

- DutchSenators

The smart play is to trade Hansen and protect Granlund.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 16 @ 6:18 PM ET
So who will the Canucks protect?

Forwards: D. Sedin, H. Sedin, Horvat, Sutter, Eriksson, Hansen, Baertschi

Defense: Edler, Tanev, Gudbranson

This basically means Granlund is gone, unless Vegas picks Rodin or Sbisa. Is there a chance the Canucks trade Hansen (he seems the most likely one to trade out of that list) to keep Granlund?

- DutchSenators



Check the pages prior. That's the hope Hansen @ TDL. But JB and WD want playoffs. You never know.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Jan 16 @ 6:18 PM ET
I would look at Brian Boyle next year for the fourth line for 2-3 years and same with TJ Oshie for playmaking skills max 3 years
- VANTEL

Even with Sbisa being the likely player taken by Vegas if we trade Hansen, I don't see us having the cap for both. All of Burrows salary will be added on top of Bo's. Guddy will prob get 4.5, Tree needs at least 2, likely 2.5 bridge deal. That leaves 3mil from Miller + Sbisa money to spend, maybe cap increase as well.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 16 @ 6:22 PM ET
The smart play is to trade Hansen and protect Granlund.
- Retinalz



Honestly there are many combinations of trade possibilities. It is of course better to get something back rather than let someone walk for nothing.

There should really only be two untouchables on the team IMO , Bo and Tryamkin. If you can get an upgrade for a player or an asset by making a move then you do it.

Example . If a team is interested in Granlund and not Hansen then you look at the return and see if you can work something out.

Sven Granlund Sbisa are all B type players , the big thing to remember is to get value .

It is possible no or few deals get done but at least try.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 16 @ 6:26 PM ET
Vantel, buddy, looks like it's you and I this week. Try hard!
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 16 @ 6:28 PM ET
I would look at Brian Boyle next year for the fourth line for 2-3 years and same with TJ Oshie for playmaking skills max 3 years
- VANTEL



Sounds like window shopping. They look good but will they touch? Doubtful just on that term. Problems always with free agents. Do the needs and desire for them fit with what Canucks have? Money only goes so far. Plus other teams over pay too.

Also, Vancouver may be beautiful but an American star player like Oshie wants a US address. Do you remember any American star UFA's ever choosing to sign in Canada? It's hard enough getting Canadians. At least Europeans appreciate Canada.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 16 @ 6:36 PM ET
Sounds like window shopping. They sound good but cause we look will they touch? Doubtful just on that term. Problems always with free agents. Do the needs and desire for them fit with what Canucks have? Money only goes so far. Plus other teams over pay too. Also, Vancouver may be beautiful but an American star player like Oshie wants a US address. Do you remember any American star UFA's ever choosing to sign in Canada? It's hard enough getting Canadians. At least Europeans appreciate Canada.
- Nuck4U

Oshie is from Washington State, but you're right, I have a hard time seeing him wanting to play in Canada. I'd bet hard on him re-signing with the Capitals, they're in a win now mode, the Canucks, sadly, are a long long ways from winning anything.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 16 @ 6:37 PM ET
Even with Sbisa being the likely player taken by Vegas if we trade Hansen, I don't see us having the cap for both. All of Burrows salary will be added on top of Bo's. Guddy will prob get 4.5, Tree needs at least 2, likely 2.5 bridge deal. That leaves 3mil from Miller + Sbisa money to spend, maybe cap increase as well.
- Retinalz



You do need to be creative . Add also that you have to sign Boeser. You also need to decide where Rodin stands.

Canucks at theis time carry 9 Dmen that would need to change . Also we are squeaking in by carrying extra forwards that we are not using (Rodin Boucher. ) You would also probably not be using Brendan Gaunce if you bring in Boyle . Boyle and Oshie would probably cost between 4-5 - 5.5 .

We have players right now on IR but not LTIR so we don't get the cap relief .

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 16 @ 6:38 PM ET
Vantel, buddy, looks like it's you and I this week. Try hard!
- LeftCoaster



You have 8 players dressed tonight, I have 1
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 16 @ 6:40 PM ET
Oshie is from Washington State, but you're right, I have a hard time seeing him wanting to play in Canada. I'd bet hard on him re-signing with the Capitals, they're in a win now mode, the Canucks, sadly, are a long long ways from winning anything.
- LeftCoaster



Oshie would be the harder of the two to attract but I would go after Boyle for sure . Our fourth line is
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 16 @ 6:40 PM ET
You have 8 players dressed tonight, I have 1
- VANTEL

I'm off to a fantastic start, eight players, one point, -7
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jan 16 @ 6:41 PM ET
Oshie would be the harder of the two to attract but I would go after Boyle for sure . Our fourth line is
- VANTEL

Worst 4th line in the league, they contribute nothing other than resting the first three lines. They don't fight, they don't hit, they don't score, they just waste fresh air as far as I'm concerned.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jan 16 @ 6:41 PM ET
I'm off to a fantastic start, eight players, one point, -7
- LeftCoaster



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