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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 14 @ 3:08 PM ET
Flyers have now locked up most goals against this year.
Congrats everyone

- Flyers Time

It just feels right.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 14 @ 3:08 PM ET
When a pro team keeps making the same mistakes, it tells me one of 2 things are happening:

1. The coach is inept
Or
2. The players have tuned out the coach

I don't think Hak is inept, though I question many of his lineup choices, so that means he's not reaching these guys. If that is the case, you need the either Fire the coach or trade a core player or 2.

Something has to give. I can handle losing because they are rebuilding and just aren't good enough yet, but I'm sick and tired of watching veteran players coast, make bonehead plays and take asinine penalties.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 14 @ 3:09 PM ET
TK and the line of suck
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 14 @ 3:09 PM ET
When a pro team keeps making the same mistakes, it tells me one of 2 things are happening:

1. The coach is inept
Or
2. The players have tuned out the coach

I don't think Hak is inept, though I question many of his lineup choices, so that means he's not reaching these guys. If that is the case, you need the either Fire the coach or trade a core player or 2.

Something has to give. I can handle losing because they are rebuilding and just aren't good enough yet, but I'm sick and tired of watching veteran players coast, make bonehead plays and take asinine penalties.

- BiggE

The defensive schemes worry me a bit long term. Generally I'm not a huge fan of strict man to man defense
Flyers Time
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bounce Back Baby
Joined: 08.08.2007

Jan 14 @ 3:09 PM ET
https://twitter.com/_dcoy...89504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 14 @ 3:10 PM ET
The numbers tell a bit of a different story. I don't think MJL is off-base when he says the forwards need to be better defensively as well.
- Mordecai

I agree about the forwards, which is why I said the whole team's been bad. But at this point, Ghost has not been a game changer in a positive way. Do I think they'd be winning this game with Ghost in the lineup? Nope. Which is why I don't really care about him being scratched.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 14 @ 3:10 PM ET
I agree about the forwards, which is why I said the whole team's been bad. But at this point, Ghost has not been a game changer in a positive way. Do I think they'd be winning this game with Ghost in the lineup? Nope. Which is why I don't really care about him being scratched.
- feelingkettle

Ghost has been so incredibly unlucky it isn't even funny.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 14 @ 3:11 PM ET
https://twitter.com/_dcoy88/status/820356485456789504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
- Flyers Time

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 14 @ 3:11 PM ET
Some fans want to weakly blame the scapegoats or the defenseman. This teams attention to detail both in coverage and in puck management is the issue. Its as much on the forwards if not more. For example on the Chara goal, there were two forwards covering one point leaving Chara wide open for the shot. Clueless.
- MJL


In my opinion Mac has been no worse than Manning, Del Zotto and Ghost in recent games. The problem with Mac is where and has been used. He sticks out negatively next to a kid who is clearly out playing him. Regardless if fans view Provorov/MacDonald or Del Zotto/Gudas as the top pair, MacDonald doesn't look like he belongs most nights.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 14 @ 3:11 PM ET
The defensive schemes worry me a bit long term. Generally I'm not a huge fan of strict man to man defense
- Mordecai

I agree. But none of that excuses the forwards gliding lackadaisically back on D
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jan 14 @ 3:12 PM ET
When a pro team keeps making the same mistakes, it tells me one of 2 things are happening:

1. The coach is inept
Or
2. The players have tuned out the coach

I don't think Hak is inept, though I question many of his lineup choices, so that means he's not reaching these guys. If that is the case, you need the either Fire the coach or trade a core player or 2.

Something has to give. I can handle losing because they are rebuilding and just aren't good enough yet, but I'm sick and tired of watching veteran players coast, make bonehead plays and take asinine penalties.

- BiggE

i think after this season all the assistants are fired to put hak on the hot seat
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 14 @ 3:12 PM ET
Ghost has been so incredibly unlucky it isn't even funny.
- Mordecai

I'm sure he's been unlucky, but I don't think he's beyond criticism. Especially since many love to poop on other whipping boys.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 14 @ 3:12 PM ET
Streit with a great outlet pass to Bergeron..
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 14 @ 3:12 PM ET
THat was absolutely a brutal turnover by AStreitmac
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 14 @ 3:12 PM ET
I agree. But none of that excuses the forwards gliding lackadaisically back on D
- BiggE

Absolutely. Especially from the vets.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 14 @ 3:13 PM ET
Yup this team needs to apply to work for Pepperidge Farms.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 14 @ 3:13 PM ET
I'm sure he's been unlucky, but I don't think he's beyond criticism. Especially since many love to poop on other whipping boys.
- feelingkettle

Fair enough. I just want him back in there ASAP after tonight.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 14 @ 3:13 PM ET
The defensive schemes worry me a bit long term. Generally I'm not a huge fan of strict man to man defense
- Mordecai


It clearly hasnt been working. They a bye week coming up that couldt have come at a better time. They need some serious practice time.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jan 14 @ 3:13 PM ET
When a pro team keeps making the same mistakes, it tells me one of 2 things are happening:

1. The coach is inept
Or
2. The players have tuned out the coach

I don't think Hak is inept, though I question many of his lineup choices, so that means he's not reaching these guys. If that is the case, you need the either Fire the coach or trade a core player or 2.

Something has to give. I can handle losing because they are rebuilding and just aren't good enough yet, but I'm sick and tired of watching veteran players coast, make bonehead plays and take asinine penalties.

- BiggE

If Hextall thinks things are going bad with Hak, then he'll get rid of him in a reasonable way. I don't think there's a chance he's going to trade a core player at this point for a glimmer of home in a pile of poop. That's how we got JVR for Luke Schenn.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 14 @ 3:14 PM ET
It clearly hasnt been working. They a bye week coming up that couldt have come at a better time. They need some serious practice time.
- MJL

They need some semblance of structure because right now it's nowhere to be found.
Flyers Time
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bounce Back Baby
Joined: 08.08.2007

Jan 14 @ 3:14 PM ET
watching the Phantoms has become more entertaining
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 14 @ 3:14 PM ET
I agree. But none of that excuses the forwards gliding lackadaisically back on D
- BiggE

It's been an epidemic this season. None look interested in back checking.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 14 @ 3:14 PM ET
In my opinion Mac has been no worse than Manning, Del Zotto and Ghost in recent games. The problem with Mac is where and has been used. He sticks out negatively next to a kid who is clearly out playing him. Regardless if fans view Provorov/MacDonald or Del Zotto/Gudas as the top pair, MacDonald doesn't look like he belongs most nights.
- SuperSchennBros

Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jan 14 @ 3:15 PM ET
Ghost has been so incredibly unlucky it isn't even funny.
- Mordecai

He'll be loved here again in about a month or 2 and people will talk about how he's "changed his game".
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 14 @ 3:15 PM ET
i think after this season all the assistants are fired to put hak on the hot seat
- 2Real

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