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kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:22 PM ET
How do you not get how this works yet? If you produce, you sit in the press box.
- Isleshockeyman



Oh i get how it works with the staff.......they do the opposite of what makes sense. It was more directed to fans who called Mayfield a minor leaguer, yet he's outplayed some isles regulars.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:23 PM ET
I am so happy I am at work and can not see the game
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:23 PM ET
Why are you convinced Snow is a narcissist? All of his moves can be explained by him simply being a bad GM. It could be that he isn't that smart. Maybe he made bad personnel decisions for whatever reason and surrounded himself with people that aren't suited to their jobs. Maybe he let's his feelings get in the way of doing the right thing for the organization. There could be a million reasons to explain it.
- JimmyP



Bingo. Other than Wang wanting a yes man, what gave ANYONE the inclination that a back up goalie who's never done anything would all of a sudden build a winning NHL team? From what winning does Snow have to go on?
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jan 16 @ 12:26 PM ET
Why are you convinced Snow is a narcissist? All of his moves can be explained by him simply being a bad GM. It could be that he isn't that smart. Maybe he made bad personnel decisions for whatever reason and surrounded himself with people that aren't suited to their jobs. Maybe he let's his feelings get in the way of doing the right thing for the organization. There could be a million reasons to explain it.
- JimmyP


That's what I said in a previous post. He's too dumb to know that he's stupid. He thinks he's the smartest one in the room. The 3 goalie thing was purely ego. What other reason would you keep all 3 then only play 2. Then to have a press conference and say, essentially "because I want to". Even now they're not playing Berube. WTF?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:29 PM ET
That's what I said in a previous post. He's too dumb to know that he's stupid. He thinks he's the smartest one in the room. The 3 goalie thing was purely ego. What other reason would you keep all 3 then only play 2. Then to have a press conference and say, essentially "because I want to". Even now they're not playing Berube. WTF?
- Isleshockeyman



The problem with the three goalie situation is a lot deeper than Snow admitting he screwed up. He put all his eggs on Halak to be the starter, yet his starter has had big injuries each year, so as insurance he kept Berube. The whole situation is just another nail in his coffin. Its another example of his decision making going the wrong way. The best part is now his starter was waived.....
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 16 @ 12:30 PM ET
Funny, when the isles drafted Reinhardt he was the top dog, and Pulock was just a hard shot. Then we actually saw that Reinhardt couldnt skate, and then Pulock was the next big thing.......now he cant even crack the lineup. So now its Toews? Give me a break.........its 10 years in, and the isles have yet to draft a top end dmen (minus maybe Hamonic).
- kindlyrick

Well toews is a 4th round pick that's really developed and pulocks been hurt I think that's his real issue
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 16 @ 12:31 PM ET
Oh i get how it works with the staff.......they do the opposite of what makes sense. It was more directed to fans who called Mayfield a minor leaguer, yet he's outplayed some isles regulars.
- kindlyrick

Hard to argue I mean he's not the most fleet of foot but so far he hasn't been killed from it
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:32 PM ET
Well toews is a 4th round pick that's really developed and pulocks been hurt I think know that's his real issue
- Upstate_isles



Look its great that Toews is developing......but lets be honest here. There's too much dead weight on this team to fill in young talent. Case in point is Adam Pelech. Everytime he's been brought up he's played steady. Im not saying he's the next coming, but its been two years now that he's not been outta place when called upon. So.......fish or cut bait with him. Its the same story over an over. Pulock looked liked he belonged last year in the playoffs, yet he couldnt make the team outta training camp??????
Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

Jan 16 @ 12:33 PM ET
Funny, when the isles drafted Reinhardt he was the top dog, and Pulock was just a hard shot. Then we actually saw that Reinhardt couldnt skate, and then Pulock was the next big thing.......now he cant even crack the lineup. So now its Toews? Give me a break.........its 10 years in, and the isles have yet to draft a top end dmen (minus maybe Hamonic).
- kindlyrick


You can't say they haven't drafted a top D-man because this group dumb fvcks doesn't know how to develop talent. Once again, you can't tell me that in 10 years of drafting, besides JT, that not one of them have first line talent. It's either really, really piss poor drafting (which out of Snow I could see) or no development system.
Maybe none of the defensemen drafted will amount to a top d man, I just reserve judgment on all of the prospects until a competent staff is in place.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:34 PM ET
Hard to argue I mean he's not the most fleet of foot but so far he hasn't been killed from it
- Upstate_isles



4 pts in as many games for a dman, should be earning some playing time. None of us are scouts........he's a big body with a long stride. He's not gonna skate like Hickey whos stride is shorter. Again, im not saying he's the answer, and neither is Pelech, but how many guys do you need that can come in and add to the team, while others just coast? Seems like there's more than enough overage to make trades.....and yet we sit and watch. At this point, i'd rather he not do anything......but i'd be happier if there was something publically stated by the ownership for the long term.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:36 PM ET
You can't say they haven't drafted a top D-man because this group dumb fvcks doesn't know how to develop talent. Once again, you can't tell me that in 10 years of drafting, besides JT, that not one of them have first line talent. It's either really, really piss poor drafting (which out of Snow I could see) or no development system.
Maybe none of the defensemen drafted will amount to a top d man, I just reserve judgment on all of the prospects until a competent staff is in place.

- Isleshockeyman



I hate to say it, but for the most part, the drafting has been eh at best. Yes there are some legit talented players that were drafted, and yes the developing is non existant, but there's simply no excuse for the Kirrils, and the Ho Sangs of the drafts. Point being, im tired of a GM who thinks he's smarter than 29 other teams.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 16 @ 12:37 PM ET
Look its great that Toews is developing......but lets be honest here. There's too much dead weight on this team to fill in young talent. Case in point is Adam Pelech. Everytime he's been brought up he's played steady. Im not saying he's the next coming, but its been two years now that he's not been outta place when called upon. So.......fish or cut bait with him. Its the same story over an over. Pulock looked liked he belonged last year in the playoffs, yet he couldnt make the team outta training camp??????
- kindlyrick

Yeah he was a waiver exemption then was hurt I guess it's all stupid as he was great in playoffs and made the pp dynamic. As for toews sometimes you get lucky see lundqvist he was drafted 205 overall
Cappy just said Gionta looked good in camp and if he wasn't hurt would have been here from day one wtf he should be fired for that alone
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:38 PM ET
Yeah he was a waiver exemption then was hurt I guess it's all stupid as he was great in playoffs and made the pp dynamic. As for toews sometimes you get lucky see lundqvist he was drafted 205 overall
- Upstate_isles



Im all for getting lucky......i mean if you or I were drafting, im sure we'd get lucky at some point. But, there's been too many misses, and not enough luck for my liking.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 16 @ 12:40 PM ET
Ladd and Clutterbuck prob are politely being shown a seat for a game. The irony here is that the isles after ten years of drafting, are calling up the likes of Gionta, and not MDC or Ho Sang. Not saying the prospects are ready, but the fact that they're not speaks volumes. 10 years in and you're calling up a journeymen?????
- kindlyrick


I agree. Other teams like the Rangers seem to be able to call up better players from their farm team.
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 16 @ 12:40 PM ET
Im all for getting lucky......i mean if you or I were drafting, im sure we'd get lucky at some point. But, there's been too many misses, and not enough luck for my liking.
- kindlyrick

I'm not sure the drafting was even bad they were picked as top 5 system for the last few years it's the development that blows
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:41 PM ET
Yeah he was a waiver exemption then was hurt I guess it's all stupid as he was great in playoffs and made the pp dynamic. As for toews sometimes you get lucky see lundqvist he was drafted 205 overall
Cappy just said Gionta looked good in camp and if he wasn't hurt would have been here from day one wtf he should be fired for that alone

- Upstate_isles



Just typical.....im not even surprised. Cause "the other" Gionta is gonna bring the isles to the next level?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:43 PM ET
I'm not sure the drafting was even bad they were picked as top 5 system for the last few years it's the development that blows
- Upstate_isles



Reinhardt, and Strome suck......and Nino was no great shakes either. So to me, their top 5 picks have sucked.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:44 PM ET
I agree. Other teams like the Rangers seem to be able to call up better players from their farm team.
- ses111



10 years in, and you should be having top end talent chomping at the bit for their shot. Not benching them for being late, and going with a tryout journeymen. There's just so many things wrong with this team....
Upstate_isles
New York Islanders
Location: Bitch Lasagna , NY
Joined: 05.12.2016

Jan 16 @ 12:44 PM ET
Just typical.....im not even surprised. Cause "the other" Gionta is gonna bring the isles to the next level?
- kindlyrick

Oh and they needed a spark so beau was allowed out of the press box, now if he provides a spark shouldn't he play all the time? He seems to score or get assists in games and plays hard but yet he's the one who sits. As far as I'm concerned prince is odd manot out
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:47 PM ET
Oh and they needed a spark so beau was allowed out of the press box, now if he provides a spark shouldn't he play all the time? He seems to score or get assists in games and plays hard but yet he's the one who sits. As far as I'm concerned prince is odd manot out
- Upstate_isles




I agree with you......i've literally said this for 5 years now. The isles and or Snow do not know how to build a winner. He's never been able to make decisions on guys being part of the future, so instead he's hoarded at every position. Prince and Quine are the same guy......and they rotate them along with Beau, who's a legit talent. Im past disgusted at this point. Im not gonna sit here and say I told anyone, BUTTT I called this sh!t from week 2. ha
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:50 PM ET
Not to play monday monring quarterback here, but ironically Snows first move as GM backfired, and at the time everyone loved it, but that was very telling. The Ryan Smyth trade was good in the sense that they dumped three busts for a proven leader to start a rebuild. But, the inability to sign him was the start of a long road of dissapointment. There's been too many fireable offenses for Snow at this point. He's no longer welcome.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jan 16 @ 12:54 PM ET
Not to play monday monring quarterback here, but ironically Snows first move as GM backfired, and at the time everyone loved it, but that was very telling. The Ryan Smyth trade was good in the sense that they dumped three busts for a proven leader to start a rebuild. But, the inability to sign him was the start of a long road of dissapointment. There's been too many fireable offenses for Snow at this point. He's no longer welcome.
- kindlyrick


I at least give Garth credit for being aggressive there and they did everything they could to re-sign him. Like you mention, they hoard every prospect now. I have no idea why they even bother when they never give guys like Barzal and Beau a fair shot?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 12:56 PM ET
I at least give Garth credit for being aggressive there and they did everything they could to re-sign him. Like you mention, they hoard every prospect now. I have no idea why they even bother when they never give guys like Barzal and Beau a fair shot?
- ses111



Lets look outside the box here.....its a blessing that they havent really had the chance to ruin Beau and Barzal, because BOTH are legit talents.

My point in bringing up Smyth, is that they were missing something in keeping him here. Whether it was lack of talent, or just the circus of the owner/management. Either way it was the first of many failures and a sign of things to come.
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Jan 16 @ 12:59 PM ET
Lets look outside the box here.....its a blessing that they havent really had the chance to ruin Beau and Barzal, because BOTH are legit talents.
- kindlyrick

That's why it would be better to have Pulock, MDC, and Ho Sang stay in Bridgeport this season so Cappy can't ruin them too. Hopefully by next year when there's a new coaching staff, they'll be able to take the next step.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Jan 16 @ 1:01 PM ET
That's why it would be better to have Pulock, MDC, and Ho Sang stay in Bridgeport this season so Cappy can't ruin them too. Hopefully by next year when there's a new coaching staff, they'll be able to take the next step.
- NYI44



Im already done with the Ho Sang experiment. Benched for being late in Bport.
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