Because for all the reasons you mentioned the player has value. Looking out we're assuming that Sanheim and Myers are going to be solid two way defensemen who can play on the PP and PK. They are projecting that way. Sanheim certainly is showing he'll have every bit of the ability to carry the puck up the ice the way ghost does with the potential to be faster. Myers can do this too with a big shot. These prospects aren't as green as they once were.

Me personally I want to get bigger and longer on the back end, so I have a greater interest in keeping those types of players to go with 6'0" provorov and 6'0" Gudas the only other 2 dmen that are going to be around for awhile.

Talking about trading ghost doesn't mean fans think he sucks or take his game for granted. Its about making decisions on how to round out the roster and filling in some obvious holes in the forward ranks.
- Just5

Just to add to this, I don't trade Ghost just to trade him either. I trade him when the play of the others require it. If we can ice all four, Myers, Sanheim, Provy and Ghost, then do it.

I just think one of those players will be moved to bring in a forward at some point. I'm not advocating it, it's just a hunch.

I think the real question here is have you bought a Ghost jersey yet?
- PhillySportsGuy

No but I should adopt a white dog and name him Ghost.

Just relax. No one wants to trade Ghost now. God forbid we talk about the future of the team.
- Just5

I am not referring to now either

Because for all the reasons you mentioned the player has value. Looking out we're assuming that Sanheim and Myers are going to be solid two way defensemen who can play on the PP and PK. They are projecting that way. Sanheim certainly is showing he'll have every bit of the ability to carry the puck up the ice the way ghost does with the potential to be faster. Myers can do this too with a big shot. These prospects aren't as green as they once were.

Me personally I want to get bigger and longer on the back end, so I have a greater interest in keeping those types of players to go with 6'0" provorov and 6'0" Gudas the only other 2 dmen that are going to be around for awhile.

Talking about trading ghost doesn't mean fans think he sucks or take his game for granted. Its about making decisions on how to round out the roster and filling in some obvious holes in the forward ranks.
- Just5

Yes and people on here used to say we should move Couturier because Laughton is coming up and provides similar things and that we have too many centers.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that Sanheim is a two-way defenseman. He's never shown much defensive ability and his decision making has always been questionable.

The idea that these guys can just come up and do all the things Ghost can do and then some is ridiculous. Guys with Ghost's ability to navigate the neutral zone and create chances don't come along that often. When you get one, you keep him and develop the other areas of his game. You don't move him for some "sniper" who scores 25 goals per year.

No but I should adopt a white dog and name him Ghost.
- Streit2ThePoint

Thats a good idea

Yes and people on here used to say we should move Couturier because Laughton is coming up and provides similar things and that we have too many centers.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that Sanheim is a two-way defenseman. He's never shown much defensive ability and his decision making has always been questionable.

The idea that these guys can just come up and do all the things Ghost can do and then some is ridiculous. Guys with Ghost's ability to navigate the neutral zone and create chances don't come along that often. When you get one, you keep him and develop the other areas of his game. You don't move him for some "sniper" who scores 25 goals per year.
- PhillySportsGuy

Plus his nickname is (frank)ing Ghost. Like that is the most badass thing ever why would you want to trade that guy?

Just to add to this, I don't trade Ghost just to trade him either. I trade him when the play of the others require it. If we can ice all four, Myers, Sanheim, Provy and Ghost, then do it.

I just think one of those players will be moved to bring in a forward at some point. I'm not advocating it, it's just a hunch.
- VladDrag

I agree with this. Its just the way it is likely to shake out I think

Yes and people on here used to say we should move Couturier because Laughton is coming up and provides similar things and that we have too many centers.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that Sanheim is a two-way defenseman. He's never shown much defensive ability and his decision making has always been questionable.

The idea that these guys can just come up and do all the things Ghost can do and then some is ridiculous. Guys with Ghost's ability to navigate the neutral zone and create chances don't come along that often. When you get one, you keep him and develop the other areas of his game. You don't move him for some "sniper" who scores 25 goals per year.
- PhillySportsGuy

Well put! Given the chance to continue to learn in the A will really help Sanheim he is a big kid who is still adding bulk while maintaining his speed. He reamins a prospect with good upside.

I agree with this. Its just the way it is likely to shake out I think
- Just5

It's not like we want to trade Ghost, it's more so that I can certainly see it happening. Rather keep him, but I wouldn't be shocked if he is traded at some point due to eventual defensive depth. That is all.

Plus his nickname is (frank)ing Ghost. Like that is the most badass thing ever why would you want to trade that guy?
- Mordecai

That's a very sound reason for holding onto a fading talent obviously past his prime.

As far as Laughton experiment goes...I'd be surprised if he sees NHL anytime soon.
Can't put puck in net at AHL level 4 goals 20 games shoooting % below 9%. Nor score. Andy Miele has more points in almost same amount of games...UGH

Time to put him in a package with any dead weight you all want insert names__________!

Yes and people on here used to say we should move Couturier because Laughton is coming up and provides similar things and that we have too many centers.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that Sanheim is a two-way defenseman. He's never shown much defensive ability and his decision making has always been questionable.

The idea that these guys can just come up and do all the things Ghost can do and then some is ridiculous. Guys with Ghost's ability to navigate the neutral zone and create chances don't come along that often. When you get one, you keep him and develop the other areas of his game. You don't move him for some "sniper" who scores 25 goals per year.
- PhillySportsGuy

I am more excited about Sanheim now than I was last year

As far as Laughton experiment goes...I'd be surprised if he sees NHL anytime soon.
Can't put puck in net at AHL level 4 goals 20 games shoooting % below 9%. Nor score. Andy Miele has more points in almost same amount of games...UGH

Time to put him in a package with any dead weight you all want insert names__________!
- Konalover

you really cant hold him accountable until we discuss how he can put the puck on net better

Yes and people on here used to say we should move Couturier because Laughton is coming up and provides similar things and that we have too many centers.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that Sanheim is a two-way defenseman. He's never shown much defensive ability and his decision making has always been questionable.

The idea that these guys can just come up and do all the things Ghost can do and then some is ridiculous. Guys with Ghost's ability to navigate the neutral zone and create chances don't come along that often. When you get one, you keep him and develop the other areas of his game. You don't move him for some "sniper" who scores 25 goals per year.
- PhillySportsGuy

Counterpoint: This sort of thing works all the time in NHL '16.

/uncalled for

Does anyone else think that Schultz is getting playing time to increase any trade value that he might have? Lots of teams are looking for dmen, just not of the 6-7 dman variety.

Well put! Given the chance to continue to learn in the A will really help Sanheim he is a big kid who is still adding bulk while maintaining his speed. He reamins a prospect with good upside.
- Konalover

I like Sanheim a lot too, but I think people are crazy if they think he doesn't present the same problems as Ghost defensively.

Tbh, I think some of the defensive problems Ghost has had are a result of the forwards not rotating back when he goes to step up. He's definitely prone to getting beat though. It's something that was evident last year as well.

As far as Laughton experiment goes...I'd be surprised if he sees NHL anytime soon.
Can't put puck in net at AHL level 4 goals 20 games shoooting % below 9%. Nor score. Andy Miele has more points in almost same amount of games...UGH

Time to put him in a package with any dead weight you all want insert names__________!
- Konalover

That's a pretty silly comparison given that Miele gets a lot of PP time and Laughton doesn't.

It's like saying Sanheim sucks because Brennan has scored a lot more.

It's not like we want to trade Ghost, it's more so that I can certainly see it happening. Rather keep him, but I wouldn't be shocked if he is traded at some point due to eventual defensive depth. That is all.
- arichardson22

If return is not right for that Ghost trade you speak of, it could be very similar to the Sharp trade that yielded us a bag of pucks and norris trophy winner matt ellison.

I am more excited about Sanheim now than I was last year
- YuenglingJagr

Sorry, you can only have one of them. Ghost or Sanheim. Pick a side or get caught in the crossfire.

I like Sanheim a lot too, but I think people are crazy if they think he doesn't present the same problems as Ghost defensively.
- PhillySportsGuy

Sanheim is much bigger, and is being used on the Phantoms shutdown pairing and on the PK. I don't think they are very similar defensive players.

I'm not sure where you get the idea that Sanheim is a two-way defenseman.
- PhillySportsGuy

By watching Phantoms games.

Sanheim is much bigger, and is being used on the Phantoms shutdown pairing and on the PK. I don't think they are very similar defensive players.



By watching Phantoms games.
- Feanor

Amazing how he's been able to totally transform himself in 40 AHL games. As we know, size is #1 determinant for defensive ability as well.

That's a pretty silly comparison given that Miele gets a lot of PP time and Laughton doesn't.

It's like saying Sanheim sucks because Brennan has scored a lot more.
- Feanor

And Laughton doesn't get PP time why???? Because Andy miele is better? HMMMM
Brilliant retort and player analysis my friend.
Laughton can't beat out a scrub! Bring him up now with his scary talent that cannot get him PP mins.

Amazing how he's been able to totally transform himself in 40 AHL games. As we know, size is #1 determinant for defensive ability as well.
- PhillySportsGuy

He didn't transform himself, he's just being used in a different role than he was in the WHL where he was the main source of offense on the whole team.

And he's excelling in that new role. Your opinion of him as a player is outdated and inaccurate.

you really cant hold him accountable until we discuss how he can put the puck on net better
- YuenglingJagr

Putting the puck on the net doesn't matter to idiots who think they know a lot about hockey.
I hope we miss the net enough to set a record cause when we miss the net there is a really good chance it may go in for a goal....Idiots!!