I think you'll realize you're not really a fan of the team and give up trolling the people who actually enjoy it when the Flyers win games sooner than that.
- Feanor

Hilarious for a person to say someone isn't a fan of a team when they don't even know them. Yes I'm not a fan, I'm posting on an internet board for a random team I don't have any interest in. That makes plenty of sense. I can assure you that everyone who knows me would say I'm a fan. Any team I root for if they haven't won in my lifetime, when I've invested time and money in it you know what? I'm going to be critical of them. Too bad if you don't like it.

I'll tell you what isn't a fan. Agreeing with and blindly defending everything a team does which this forum has in spades.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie 7h7 hours ago
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Based on what I saw at WJC, Philippe Myers looks NHL ready, or close to it:Bob McKenzie added,
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@TSNBobMcKenzie next Flyers D prospect to make the team.
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I'm extremely high on Myers and Lindblom as well. Without looking into it too much, I can't remember a player at such a young age dominating the SHL like he has since maybe Backstrom.
- JFlyers00

For a player 20 and under, Lindblom is having one of the best seasons in like the last 20+ years in the SHL, I remember reading. It's very exciting. And I understand Canadians are ridiculously high on Myers now because he looked good on the WJC team, so he can do no wrong, and Flyers fans probably overrated his preseason a bit because he was such a surprise to many, but with all due respect to Bob McKenzie, I'd be surprised to see him break camp with the team next year when he is AHL eligible, and he could probably benefit from some pro seasoning, if only for half a year to a year. He's still got some kinks to work out, and if Sanheim went, no reason he shouldn't.

But this preseason, when most people got their first taste of him here, what's interesting is that he was recovering from surgeries this offseason to his groin. He really had no offseason to train and came in basically cold. Getting a healthy offseason to keep adding muscle and whatnot will be so important. But Morin and Sanheim probably start with the team next year. I don't think they'll put 3 rookies in at once, and 1 with no pro experience. I'm as big a believer in him as there is, dating back to early last year, and I'm guessing I've seen him, between Q regular season+playoffs, Mem Cup games, preseason, World Junior exhibition and tournament games.....35+ times. He's kind of my favorite prospect. And I still think he should go to the AHL, barring a Provorov-level camp.

I hate to break it to you, work on whatever he wants he still is an Ahler at best!

And yes it is about who is a better player...So by your logic sucking and not being better then a scrap heap scrub who out plays him is a good thing...
Keep being GM in unreality land where we play the not better player...Ridiculous.
- Konalover

You should send in your resume to an NHL team as a player personnel guy or scout. Your not using any logic whatsoever in describing my logic. Lastly, you obviously did not understand my point. In the AHL, player usage and deployment is not always about who is the better player.

It's just the prospects turn today.
I think it's Goalie Friday tomorrow. Tune in.
- Scoob

Exactly right too funny....
Saturday will be drunk hungover GM day where we pick apart all trades of last 50 years, My favorite day!

It would have been quicker if you just admitted you hadn't seen Sanheim play in the AHL and had no idea what you were talking about.
- Feanor

You've always been the smartest one on this website

kelvin. it's always kelvin.

IT sure seems like he's excelling. He leads the team in GF%
- phatpat44

Ghost led the Flyers in GF% last year...

You should send in your resume to an NHL team as a player personnel guy or scout. Your not using any logic whatsoever in describing my logic. Lastly, you obviously did not understand my point. In the AHL, player usage and deployment is not always about who is the better player.
- MJL

Okay let's agree that however he is deployed he has not done anything to dominate at a league where he should be dominating and showing more potential now then say Leier did when he was up...

I just think his window is closing sooner rather then later deployment challenges and all.

Myers still hasn't been updated in NHL 17 and is still a bust.

Sanheim is a worse defender in the NZ than Ghost, and it's not close. As brilliant and active as he is on the puck and pinching in the o-zone, his passivity off the puck has been a work in progress. But he's a very smart, intuitive player and it has improved though when I see him on the Phantoms, even though Scoot Gordon actually seems to emphasize ceding the blue line and keeping them outside. I imagine that's something he'll really need NHL and Hakstol time to work on. But it is also true that he was Calgary's Karlsson. He had to do everything (with Bean) for that team. Every chance available he had to take or they wouldn't score. He had to play looser. Look at their league worst offense this year without him and an injured Bean. But even in the WHL, talks of his bad defense were always way overblown.

Now, his d-zone play has been quite solid. He is 6'4" 200+lbs, so that's just an inherent advantage over Ghost. Pinning guys and stuff he can do that Ghost can't. But in terms of innate defensive ability, he's very much a stick checking, not so physical guy. Kind of like Ghost. This "Ghost can't defend!" talk that never ceases because of biases against players like him.....no, he's not Provorov. But he's a highly intelligent player who uses his speed, hockey sense, stick work, and tenacity to be a good defender, occasional turnovers and lapses (which come with the territory) aside. Sanheim is kind of similar. He might not be a shutdown guy here, but he'll be solid in coverage and great in transition. If he's as good defensively as Ghost, with a handful more inches, that's a compliment honestly. But, yes, due to his size he will be presumed better than Ghost defensively, even if that remains to be seen, and given a more 2-way role.
- Mononoke

My point was never to insult Sanheim. I still really like him. My point was that replacing Ghost with Sanheim and expecting him to be able to provide Ghost's offense while playing better defense was a very dangerous judgment to make.

kelvin. it's always kelvin.
- hammarby31

That's what I thought! Apparently I was wrong

Hilarious for a person to say someone isn't a fan of a team when they don't even know them. Yes I'm not a fan, I'm posting on an internet board for a random team I don't have any interest in. That makes plenty of sense. I can assure you that everyone who knows me would say I'm a fan. Any team I root for if they haven't won in my lifetime, when I've invested time and money in it you know what? I'm going to be critical of them. Too bad if you don't like it.

I'll tell you what isn't a fan. Agreeing with and blindly defending everything a team does which this forum has in spades.
- PLindbergh31

I hear we have been put in a club.

My point was never to insult Sanheim. I still really like him. My point was that replacing Ghost with Sanheim and expecting him to be able to provide Ghost's offense while playing better defense was a very dangerous judgment to make.
- PhillySportsGuy

I know. I agree with you in sentiment, but I wanted to make clear that Sanheim actually has been very strong defensively in the AHL....and also to defend Ghost, because like you said, it's a zero sum game with those two apparently. Just trying to be a little more aggressive defending is his flaw that needs the most work in his development.

It doesn't at all surprise me that some fans are ready to bail on Gostisbehere. Overreactions to a young player who is going through growing pains, is a staple of the fan base. I won't disagree with anyone who says that he has struggled this year. In my mind, it's not unexpected. The NHL is a tough league. They learn about you, and find ways to attack and defend a player. That can be a tough thing for a young player to experience. Especially with the season he had previously. Hell, last off season I was talking about Gostisbehere being a 20 goal, 50-60 point defenseman. He may still be. Gostisbehere definitely has short comings in his game. Most of which, can be corrected with experience and coaching. In my opinion what coaching and experience can never give a player, is the raw hockey sense, anticipation, and puck skills that Gostisbehere possesses. The ability with one quick move or fake, to instantly beat a forecheck, and start a transition up ice. The ability to read and anticipate and break up a play.Can't teach or coach that. He has it. Anyone who wants to bail on Gostisbehere now, is simply nuts.

There is such a thing as puck luck, and Ghost should stay away from casinos for a while. Last year was a bit too good to be true. Everything he touched turned to gold. He's playing better this year all-around, but that good puck luck is just completely gone. He moved from one of the best PDOs in the league to the worst while all his underlying numbers are up. It happens, and it will correct, and then every fair-weather fan will get back on the train. Just like Jake the last 2 seasons.

There is such a thing as puck luck, and Ghost should stay away from casinos for a while.

Same people who rip Ghost this year probably ripped Jake last year.
- Mononoke

Go find some quotes please

Okay let's agree that however he is deployed he has not done anything to dominate at a league where he should be dominating and showing more potential now then say Leier did when he was up...

I just think his window is closing sooner rather then later deployment challenges and all.
- Konalover

You may ultimately wind up being right about Laughton. All I'm saying is that none of us really know, including you, me, and Ron Hextall. I'm not ready to write off Laughton yet.
I'll be honest. When Laughton was up, I saw some things that told me he can be an NHL player. When I saw Leier, in an admittedly smaller sample size, I saw an NHL/AHL tweener. A player that I lean towards not being an NHL player. That's just an amateur opinion though. I could be completely wrong about that.

There is such a thing as puck luck, and Ghost should stay away from casinos for a while. Last year was a bit too good to be true. Everything he touched turned to gold. He's playing better this year all-around, but that good puck luck is just completely gone. He moved from one of the best PDOs in the league to the worst while all his underlying numbers are up. It happens, and it will correct, and then every fair-weather fan will get back on the train. Just like Jake the last 2 seasons.
- Mononoke

I look forward to the month when this all turns around

I hear we have been put in a club.
- flyer_nutter

Go find some quotes please
- YuenglingJagr

“As far as BuzzFeed, which is a failing pile of garbage, writing it, I think they’re going to suffer the consequences.”

I know. I agree with you in sentiment, but I wanted to make clear that Sanheim actually has been very strong defensively in the AHL....and also to defend Ghost, because like you said, it's a zero sum game with those two apparently. Just trying to be a little more aggressive defending is his flaw that needs the most work in his development.
- Mononoke

I don't watch the AHL.

What NHL'er in Sanheim comparable to?

I look forward to the month when this all turns around
- PhillySportsGuy

Acknowledge my preposterous Myers and Ghost comparison

My point was never to insult Sanheim. I still really like him. My point was that replacing Ghost with Sanheim and expecting him to be able to provide Ghost's offense while playing better defense was a very dangerous judgment to make.
- PhillySportsGuy

personally I'd like to have a defense that includes Provorov Gudas Ghost Morin Sanheim and Myers.

personally I'd like to have a defense that includes Provorov Gudas Ghost Morin Sanheim and Myers.
- nastyflyergirl

And Friedman and, as a sleeper type, Hogberg are lurking too as guys with upside. Friedman could really surprise as a pro, and he's getting close. Going to be exciting to see Morin and Sanheim come out, Friedman and Myers come in.

I don't watch the AHL.

What NHL'er in Sanheim comparable to?
- flyer_nutter

He's a cross between Bobby Orr, Chris Pronger and Batman