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VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jan 11 @ 4:08 PM ET
Come on Sedins! I need to update your chase to 1000. Danny? Danny you there?
- Beatle_john


They never will make the HOF.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 11 @ 4:08 PM ET
Are we being serious here?

They are fantastic players, tremendous role models and pillars of the community.

For fcuks sake, they go through a bit of scoring slump and the fan base turns on em.

Both are top 10 all time scoring for active players.

Give your head a shake.

- dbot


Everyone was counting them out after the Torts season too. They have expectations of themselves, to which they have said they would retire if they couldnt play at the level they expect. I think they are too smart and too hardworking to not rebound and keep at a high level for another season or two
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Jan 11 @ 4:08 PM ET
Are we being serious here?

They are fantastic players, tremendous role models and pillars of the community.

For fcuks sake, they go through a bit of scoring slump and the fan base turns on em.

Both are top 10 all time scoring for active players.

Give your head a shake.

- dbot


They were fantastic players. Not taking anything away from them, but they are now the same players when they came into the league.

3 poopty years to starts. 10 great seasons. 3 poopty seasons to end. (I didn't do the math, just made up the numbers).
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 11 @ 4:12 PM ET
There were enough seconds on the clock for the preds to block the shot, skate the puck up the ice, and bury the game winner before the timer went...
- Codes1087


1.5 seconds yeah they had precision timing in their heads. All Hank or Stech had to do was slow them down for a couple seconds but they screwed that up too.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 11 @ 4:15 PM ET
I was a little surprised by this as well. The Preds managed to change their forward—and that was Jarnkrok, who had the gas in the tank to break away.

Apparently the Canucks have done most of their 4-on-3 practice with the group we saw last night—I don't have the stats handy, but they're usually money in that situation. I'm not sure a change would ever have been in the cards.

- Carol Schram



You are right again Carol. We have seen this before with them. It's live or die by the sword in that situation. Failure has a short memory. Like you said they have capitalized before. The problem is the road PP has low numbers. They might want to practice changing things up.
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 11 @ 4:15 PM ET
1.5 seconds yeah they had precision timing in their heads. All Hank or Stech had to do was slow them down for a couple seconds but they screwed that up too.
- Nuck4U


I thought about that when I was watching. Josi was tying up Horvat in front, blocked the shot and lead the breakaway down the ice. I dont blame Horvat given the time left, but if he had battled a little harder for the loose puck it mightve stalled them enough, oh well
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jan 11 @ 4:16 PM ET
They were fantastic players. Not taking anything away from them, but they are now the same players when they came into the league.

3 poopty years to starts. 10 great seasons. 3 poopty seasons to end. (I didn't do the math, just made up the numbers).

- Scooby_Doo


I think they have hit a rough stretch but not sold they are completely done yet.
60+ points last year and 75+ the year before is still pretty impressive considering where this team is at IMO.
Whiskey-Tango
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Classification: Bipolar-Tanker, QC
Joined: 12.10.2011

Jan 11 @ 4:18 PM ET
They were fantastic players. Not taking anything away from them, but they are now the same players when they came into the league.

3 poopty years to starts. 10 great seasons. 3 poopty seasons to end. (I didn't do the math, just made up the numbers).

- Scooby_Doo




They are 36 (frank)ing years old!

The only problem here are the fans who figured they could still carry the weight of single-handedly driving the offense of the entire team.

If we are being realistic here, they haven't been first line players since 2012-2013.
The fact that two, if not three, subsequent management teams failed to adequately replace/reinforce other sources of scoring is not on them.

The team is bad in spite of the Twins
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 11 @ 4:18 PM ET
1.5 seconds yeah they had precision timing in their heads. All Hank or Stech had to do was slow them down for a couple seconds but they screwed that up too.
- Nuck4U


I think you are trying to make excuses for Stecher. The kid will learn from this but ultimately it was a low percentage play, clogged lanes, nothing to shoot at, he should have slowed the play down, created some time and space, or wait until the SO. Either way, he will learn from it.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 11 @ 4:19 PM ET
I think they have hit a rough stretch but not sold they are completely done yet.
60+ points last year and 75+ the year before is still pretty impressive considering where this team is at IMO.

- belcherbd


Exactly.

They have hit rough patches in the past and managed to work their way out of them.
I have no concerns there.

They obviously aren't winning the art ross again, but i think they are great players still.

edit: quick check and Henrik who sucks has more points than:

Taylor Hall, Marian Hossa, Filip Forsberg, Zach Werenski, Matt Duchene, Tyler Johnson, Ryan OReily, Alex Galchenyuk, Tyler Pearson....

hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Jan 11 @ 4:20 PM ET
I think you are trying to make excuses for Stecher. The kid will learn from this but ultimately it was a low percentage play, clogged lanes, nothing to shoot at, he should have slowed the play down, created some time and space, or wait until the SO. Either way, he will learn from it.
- Codes1087

Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 11 @ 4:21 PM ET
Makes zero sense...

Benning: "Unless the no-trade players approach me, we're going to hold the fort and go from there."

- VanHockeyGuy


Can't Blame Benning for players being given NTC's before his time.... The players signed the contract, they have a right to waive or stay. All Benning can do is voice is opinion on having the door open to players approaching him and asking for a trade and waiving. What else is he supposed to do? He has no right to force a player, who signed something, to opt out and move their lives somewhere else.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 11 @ 4:23 PM ET
were they using a rubber ball as a puck holy fak was that ice brutal, how for the life of me why they cant have good ice in this day and age is beyond me, I get the multiple events in the building thing but wholly moly, that skille chance where it was bouncing like a ball was brutal to bad that didn't happen on the winning goal.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Jan 11 @ 4:24 PM ET
JB's on 1040

just mentioned Rodin's knee swelled up recently after falling on it.

- hillbillydeluxe



Time to shut him down and put on IR. Put Boucher on deck
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jan 11 @ 4:24 PM ET


They are 36 (frank)ing years old!

The only problem here are the fans who figured they could still carry the weight of single-handedly driving the offense of the entire team.

If we are being realistic here, they haven't been first line players since 2012-2013.
The fact that two, if not three, subsequent management teams failed to adequately replace/reinforce other sources of scoring is not on them.

The team is bad in spite of the Twins

- Whiskey-Tango


In the year after Torts they have 76 and 73 points in 82 games, still top line stuff. But youre right, they are finally getting support on the scoresheet and people want to toss them aside. They still take the tough minutes and top defenders, thats because opponents still deem them the biggest threat. The moment teams start focusing on Horvat's line, I would expect a bump in production
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jan 11 @ 4:25 PM ET


Ohh God

Benning is talking about a long term extension for Gudbranson on TSN 1040.

Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 11 @ 4:25 PM ET
Can't Blame Benning for players being given NTC's before his time.... The players signed the contract, they have a right to waive or stay. All Benning can do is voice is opinion on having the door open to players approaching him and asking for a trade and waiving. What else is he supposed to do? He has no right to force a player, who signed something, to opt out and move their lives somewhere else.
- Codes1087

Edler wont waive hes said that he loves Vancouver and he isn't going to waive.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 11 @ 4:25 PM ET


They are 36 (frank)ing years old!

The only problem here are the fans who figured they could still carry the weight of single-handedly driving the offense of the entire team.

If we are being realistic here, they haven't been first line players since 2012-2013.
The fact that two, if not three, subsequent management teams failed to adequately replace/reinforce other sources of scoring is not on them.

The team is bad in spite of the Twins

- Whiskey-Tango


Awful lot of hate for the Sedins today. Say what you want, they have been a huge part of the Canucks success over the last 10 years and probably deserve a bit more credit. They may be soft, they may be 36, and they might not play exactly like people want them, but god damn people give them some credit. 36 years old and controlling possession against some top teams with their core players being like 22 average. I think they simply are playing good hockey, but are 36, so they are going to being to dip and we are all starting to see the results of father time.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 11 @ 4:26 PM ET
Ohh God

Benning is talking about a long term extension for Gudbranson on TSN 1040.


- classic321


would.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 11 @ 4:26 PM ET
Edler wont waive hes said that he loves Vancouver and he isn't going to waive.
- Bettmanhatesus


And it should be his right to stay if he pleases. It's completely out of Bennings Hands. All he can do is plant the seed over the radio (which the players and their agents will eventually hear) to say that he would be open if the players opt to approach him.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Jan 11 @ 4:27 PM ET
Ohh God

Benning is talking about a long term extension for Gudbranson on TSN 1040.


- classic321


If he can get something at 3 or 4 years around 3.5-4 mill, I would be happy with that.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 11 @ 4:27 PM ET
In the year after Torts they have 76 and 73 points in 82 games, still top line stuff. But youre right, they are finally getting support on the scoresheet and people want to toss them aside. They still take the tough minutes and top defenders, thats because opponents still deem them the biggest threat. The moment teams start focusing on Horvat's line, I would expect a bump in production
- WhiteLie


Right, and when teams focus more on Horvat, we can expect a decrease in production from the other lines, resulting in calls for Sutter to be traded, that Erikson is an anchor and Sven is streaky.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 11 @ 4:29 PM ET
Ohh God

Benning is talking about a long term extension for Gudbranson on TSN 1040.


- classic321

whats wrong with that? I would have him on my team anyday.
dbot
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Auckland -Burn it all down
Joined: 10.22.2008

Jan 11 @ 4:29 PM ET
If he can get something at 3 or 4 years around 3.5-4 mill, I would be happy with that.
- Codes1087


5 x 5.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jan 11 @ 4:31 PM ET
Awful lot of hate for the Sedins today. Say what you want, they have been a huge part of the Canucks success over the last 10 years and probably deserve a bit more credit. They may be soft, they may be 36, and they might not play exactly like people want them, but god damn people give them some credit. 36 years old and controlling possession against some top teams with their core players being like 22 average. I think they simply are playing good hockey, but are 36, so they are going to being to dip and we are all starting to see the results of father time.
- Codes1087

I don't think they have declined much, its the league has gotten faster is more like it.
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