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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 10 @ 1:10 PM ET
If I make the trade do I win 2 cups?
- J35Bacher

columbus didnt win any cups
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 10 @ 1:12 PM ET
Both teams got what they wanted.

Kings got cups, Flyers got some nice players.

- J35Bacher



Yeah I agree. I like the Kings too, so it really did work out.

Imagine what Hexy thinks.. He was with LA when the swung the deal and got a ring, then he gets to go back to philly (Where he belongs) and now has the benefit of seeing those assets help his current squad. Worked out great.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:13 PM ET
columbus didnt win any cups
- YuenglingJagr


Jack Johnson's +21 has brought his career +/- up to a respectable -105.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 10 @ 1:15 PM ET
Today, would you trade Voracek for Jeff Carter?
Today, would you trade Couturier for Jeff Carter?

- jmatchett383



I still find it funny that CBJ bailed on Carter so quickly. Thought he\'d be happy with Ohio State U so close... Maybe they'll win the cup this year and it'll be worth it.

J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 10 @ 1:15 PM ET
Yes, it is. But what does 2 Cups have to do with asking if you would do a trade? Why not 7? Why not 4? If I said would you trade a 7th for McDavid, would you ask the same question? No, you'd do it because it (likely) makes the team better.
- jmatchett383



I understand that.

LA made the trade because they thought it made them better. Would they probably prefer to have Simmonds now? Yes. But the trade helped in getting them 2 cups.

Would I trade Voracek or Couturier for Carter now? No because at this time the Flyers aren't at a position where I think Carter helps more then Voracek or Couturier.

Would I trade for McDavid. of Course. because I am getting a player that is younbg and can help now and the future.

There are lots of factors needed. but the ultimate goal is to position yourself in a place to possibly win a cup.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 10 @ 1:16 PM ET
Jack Johnson's +21 has brought his career +/- up to a respectable -105.
- jmatchett383



Boy did Carter sulk his way into a nice situation.

jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:17 PM ET
I understand that.

LA made the trade because they thought it made them better. Would they probably prefer to have Simmonds now? Yes. But the trade helped in getting them 2 cups.

Would I trade Voracek or Couturier for Carter now? No because at this time the Flyers aren't at a position where I think Carter helps more then Voracek or Couturier.

Would I trade for McDavid. of Course. because I am getting a player that is younbg and can help now and the future.

There are lots of factors needed. but the ultimate goal is to position yourself in a place to possibly win a cup.

- J35Bacher


We didn't trade Carter to LA for Voracek and Couturier. So why is that relevant? Columbus didn't win 2 Cups.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 10 @ 1:20 PM ET
2nd year in a row a forward makes the All Star game despite not having played very well. First John Scott, now Jon Toews.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:27 PM ET
2nd year in a row a forward makes the All Star game despite not having played very well. First John Scott, now Jon Toews.
- Feanor


Seems like Toews is destined to be the belle of the ball, score 2 goals, and win MVP after the NHL arranges his trade and tells him that it would be a shame to his family if he plays.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 10 @ 1:28 PM ET
2nd year in a row a forward makes the All Star game despite not having played very well. First John Scott, now Jon Toews.
- Feanor


4 (frank)ing Blackhawks on that divisions team?

Shouldn't be more than 2 from a team.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Jan 10 @ 1:31 PM ET
He just got claimed on waivers
- YuenglingJagr


Nice pick up by the Leafs
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 10 @ 1:31 PM ET
Seems like Toews is destined to be the belle of the ball, score 2 goals, and win MVP after the NHL arranges his trade and tells him that it would be a shame to his family if he plays.
- jmatchett383


Should probably just demote him to the AHL to avoid the shame.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 10 @ 1:33 PM ET
Nice pick up by the Leafs
- Streit2ThePoint

maybe we can borrow enroth
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 10 @ 1:34 PM ET
Today, would you trade Voracek for Jeff Carter?
Today, would you trade Couturier for Jeff Carter?

- jmatchett383


I would trade Coots before Jake but even then I dont because I dont think Carter gets them any closer to winning up a cup then they are with either of those 2.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jan 10 @ 1:35 PM ET
4 (frank)ing Blackhawks on that divisions team?

Shouldn't be more than 2 from a team.

- dragonoffrost


4 Blackhawks....and none of them are the 2nd leading scorer on the team and 6th leading scorer in the whole league.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:37 PM ET
4 Blackhawks....and none of them are the 2nd leading scorer on the team and 6th leading scorer in the whole league.
- johndewar


In his defense, Corey Crawford isn't paid to score goals.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 10 @ 1:37 PM ET
Today, would you trade Voracek for Jeff Carter?


- jmatchett383


No.


Today, would you trade Couturier for Jeff Carter?

- jmatchett383



If I thought the team was close to contending yes, but they aren't, so no also.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 10 @ 1:40 PM ET
JVR = (frank)ing pigeon

https://www.nhl.com/video...ns/t-280064652/c-48014303
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 10 @ 1:43 PM ET
JVR = (frank)ing pigeon

https://www.nhl.com/video...ns/t-280064652/c-48014303

- YuenglingJagr


Lady who took the picture is kinda cute, in a thick MILFy way.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 10 @ 1:44 PM ET
Simmer our rep at the mid-season work stoppage.




- dragonoffrost


ftfy
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jan 10 @ 1:49 PM ET
JVR = (frank)ing pigeon

https://www.nhl.com/video...ns/t-280064652/c-48014303

- YuenglingJagr

https://youtu.be/KKlB-aKD3P0?t=59s
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Jan 10 @ 1:53 PM ET
Lady who took the picture is kinda cute, in a thick MILFy way.
- jmatchett383

now im in a rabbit hole

https://www.nhl.com/video...la/t-280064652/c-47833503

this was legit awesome
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Jan 10 @ 1:56 PM ET
Manning will be one of three that is protected, Ghost, Gudas, and Manning. MDZ is a UFA so you wink wink nudge nudge and sign him post expansion draft if you want him back.

I also set an agreement (unsigned until after the expansion draft) with Mase or Neuvy and figure out who to expose at goalie to keep Stolie protected.

- dragonoffrost


Using a protection slot on a mediocre #6 journeyman type who you often scratch would be a complete waste of an asset. I hope Hextall is savvier than that. And he is.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Jan 10 @ 1:57 PM ET
now im in a rabbit hole

https://www.nhl.com/video...la/t-280064652/c-47833503

this was legit awesome

- YuenglingJagr

This is what I aspire to be
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jan 10 @ 1:58 PM ET
now im in a rabbit hole

https://www.nhl.com/video...la/t-280064652/c-47833503

this was legit awesome

- YuenglingJagr

wow, that gave me chills. nice.
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