Simmonds is a really good fighter, just doesn't make sense for him to take himself off the ice for 5 mins as well as risk injury fighting role players.

Flyers haven't had anyone who could fight since Brashear.
- PLindbergh31

we all know this isn't that kind of team. They try to play tough when the playoffs come around but they don't fight. Not much snarl or engaging in any "emotional stuff". The league has moved away from fighting overall so I agree with not having a guy that only does that.

Product of coaching no?

I do wonder how after an extended time of more than just tonight the lines are still intact.

Really man?
- flyer_nutter

Only so many ways you can re-arrange the deck chairs Nutter. The bottom 6 is completely void of talent. It's sickening watching bargain bin pickups like Grabner, Gagner, Parentueu all producing points while Wiese is a A-1 POS bottom shelf.

- Just5

Is it Claude Giroux or Claude Leroux?? Nothing special lately, gone to sleep again.

Nobody in front of the net. One and done.

Only so many ways you can re-arrange the deck chairs Nutter. The bottom 6 is completely void of talent. It's sickening watching bargain bin pickups like Grabner, Gagner, Parentueu all producing points while Wiese is a A-1 POS bottom shelf.
- PLindbergh31

The current set up negates whatever talent they do have. Put your guys that at least have a chance at doing something together and let the dead
Weight play together.

anyone remember that period of time when read was scoring goals?

Some good pressure there ..Forwards have just gone bone dry..

Me too. I never really liked that guy. Anyone could have played that role in Happy Gilmore.

He's obnoxious and that laugh...
- flyer_nutter

Is it Claude Giroux or Claude Leroux?? Nothing special lately, gone to sleep again.
- joegreif17

RAffl and Read. Might as well chop off Claude's balls and put bricks in his pockets.

He's aging, but with those two it's a death sentence.

anyone remember that period of time when read was scoring goals?
- 2Real

Before Halloween

Simmonds is a really good fighter, just doesn't make sense for him to take himself off the ice for 5 mins as well as risk injury fighting role players.

Flyers haven't had anyone who could fight since Brashear.
- PLindbergh31

Agreed on Simmonds and disagree on the last line as Rinaldo actually could go for a smaller fighter.

we all know this isn't that kind of team. They try to play tough when the playoffs come around but they don't fight. Not much snarl or engaging in any "emotional stuff". The league has moved away from fighting overall so I agree with not having a guy that only does that.

Product of coaching no?
- flyer_nutter

Agreed the days of the "enforcer" are over. You have to have other tools in the box to play in the NHL now.

Agreed on Simmonds and disagree on the last line as Rinaldo actually could go for a smaller fighter.
- opeth_pa

Yes. Rinaldo was willing and could handle himself. The thing with him ways the dumb penalties he took negated any positives.

Clement trying to lighten up the mood with the Armenian Holocaust talk.

Pavelski leading the sharks past the oilers with McDavid
Giroux flubbing against Eichel and the Sabres

By the way, 13 of the last 23 even strength goals allowed by the Flyers have occurred with Macdonald on the ice.

Tried to warn you guys about how unsustainable his numbers were when everyone was saying he was "playing well."

He continues to struggle and he's really been a drag on Provorov
- PhillySportsGuy

MacDonald has struggled in this game, but he has not been struggling overall. He has been playing.solid hockey. Provorov has also had some really strong games despite the " drag". Tell the complete story. There are 5 players on the ice. A comprehensive and accurate analysis would look at who has been responsible for the goals against.

Yes. Rinaldo was willing and could handle himself. The thing with him ways the dumb penalties he took negated any positives.
- PLindbergh31

He was also terrible at hockey

I guess we are gonna live and die by these lines because we won Saturday.

Heading into the third, I was hoping Mason might get yanked or G and Jake might be put back together.

Yes. Rinaldo was willing and could handle himself. The thing with him ways the dumb penalties he took negated any positives.
- PLindbergh31

Agreed, stupid plays negated that fact that he really could skate pretty well, hit and heavy fighter..

The penalties made those things expendable..

anyone remember that period of time when read was scoring goals?
- 2Real

I member.

Agreed the days of the "enforcer" are over. You have to have other tools in the box to play in the NHL now.
- PLindbergh31

What tools does Weise have?

Guy is a candidate to go off and see the Wizard.

Pavelski leading the sharks past the oilers with McDavid
Giroux flubbing against Eichel and the Sabres
- 2Real

Your boy Joey P has the same amount of points tonight as Giroux.

Look at Read skating off at the end of the play he just killed.

Might as well start buying cemetery plots.

Agreed, stupid plays negated that fact that he really could skate pretty well, hit and heavy fighter..

The penalties made those things expendable..
- opeth_pa

Yep. He got a lot of reputation penalties. He would never get the benefit of the doubt on anything. He brought that on himself.

MacDonald has struggled in this game, but he has not been struggling overall. He has been playing.solid hockey. Provorov has also had some really strong games despite the " drag". Tell the complete story. There are 5 players on the ice. A comprehensive and accurate analysis would look at who has been responsible for the goals against.
- MJL

There are only 2 players in the red possession wise tonight... The amac pairing, and they're really red.

The more you keep defending him and calling him a "slightly overpaid top-4 defenseman," the more you sound like a fool.