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underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jan 6 @ 1:33 PM ET
I've seen people saying they should trade their first this year That's always worked out great.
- ClarksonDavid


I would for the right player.

Would you trade the 1st round pick in some kind of package for:

-Klingberg
-Hamilton
-Trouba
-Lindholm
-Vatanen

you know, a 22-24 yr old established and semi-proven top pairing D man?



I would do it in a heart beat.

I'm not interested in drafting a kid at 15-20 that is going to take 3-5 years to develop in the minors or AHL. I think the timing is bad and Rielly needs a legit partner now.

Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 6 @ 1:34 PM ET
I would for the right player.

Would you trade the 1st round pick in some kind of package for:

-Klingberg
-Hamilton
-Trouba
-Lindholm
-Vatanen

you know, a 22-24 yr old established and semi-proven top pairing D man?



I would do it in a heart beat.

I'm not interested in drafting a kid at 15-20 that is going to take 3-5 years to develop in the minors or AHL. I think the timing is bad and Rielly needs a legit partner now.

- underhill14


I do not disagree with the above.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jan 6 @ 1:36 PM ET

- Scabeh

Just when you think Vadar couldn't get any uglier, this comes along.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 6 @ 1:37 PM ET
I would for the right player.

Would you trade the 1st round pick in some kind of package for:

-Klingberg
-Hamilton
-Trouba
-Lindholm
-Vatanen

you know, a 22-24 yr old established and semi-proven top pairing D man?



I would do it in a heart beat.

I'm not interested in drafting a kid at 15-20 that is going to take 3-5 years to develop in the minors or AHL. I think the timing is bad and Rielly needs a legit partner now.

- underhill14


Your avatar is confusing.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 6 @ 1:40 PM ET
I suppose but just seems like good teams keep adding to there prospect pool year after year..
- ClarksonDavid


First round picks are tough to give away.

I remember reading about how the L.A. kings would pick the best player at a given position regardless of if they thought they fit into the system, just so they can develop them and use them as trade bait for other pieces.

I'm more for that route.... assuming we actually draft well
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Jan 6 @ 1:41 PM ET
I've seen people saying they should trade their first this year That's always worked out great.
- ClarksonDavid


To be fair, it’s all about context … trading 1sts before having a good idea of where they’ll end up is what got us into heaps of trouble.


I’m really not opposed to trading it after the lottery is done and we know what it is. We’re an Andersen injury away from being bottom 5….so it’s a little early for me to move our 1st.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jan 6 @ 1:43 PM ET
I suppose but just seems like good teams keep adding to there prospect pool year after year..
- ClarksonDavid


Yep, I agree with this. "Usually" it is the best way to go...except in Edmonton's case.

I just think....for this one time only....that if we could use the pick to get Rielly a partner that is ready to play with the team now and grow with our core, we should do it.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Jan 6 @ 1:44 PM ET
Your avatar is confusing.

- TheMussel


Sorry, but it stays until I beat (frank)ing Lum Lums in the hockey pool.


....it's confusing and annoying the poop out of me too.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jan 6 @ 1:44 PM ET
lol dafuq?

- martox

WTF?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 6 @ 1:50 PM ET
Scherbak playing tomorrow... interesting to see what he'll do
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jan 6 @ 1:51 PM ET
ok...start Bibeau against the Devils...need all we can get from Andersen to beat the Habs I think.....but maybe not with all their injuries.

I'm so confused.

*am always confused*

- Garnie


i would say the opposite. start the better goalie against the weaker team when your team is fresher and maximize your chance of getting the points against the team closer to you in the standings. the Leafs losing tonight because of lousy backup goaltending would be inexcusable, whereas tomorrow night will be an uphill climb regardless because of fatigue.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 6 @ 1:52 PM ET
i would say the opposite. start the better goalie against the weaker team when your team is fresher and maximize your chance of getting the points against the team closer to you in the standings. the Leafs losing tonight because of lousy backup goaltending would be inexcusable, whereas tomorrow night will be an uphill climb regardless because of fatigue.
- DoubleDown


Babcock is gambling on the 4 points.
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Jan 6 @ 1:53 PM ET
To be fair, it’s all about context … trading 1sts before having a good idea of where they’ll end up is what got us into heaps of trouble.


I’m really not opposed to trading it after the lottery is done and we know what it is. We’re an Andersen injury away from being bottom 5….so it’s a little early for me to move our 1st.

- Tumbleweed

I don't think we should move our 1st's for anyone anytime...realistically that is
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jan 6 @ 1:53 PM ET
I suppose but just seems like good teams keep adding to there prospect pool year after year..
- ClarksonDavid

ya they do. during the draft.
Good teams also make moves for quality players when the opportunity presents itself.
ClarksonDavid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Rielly wouldn't, crack top 4 on the sens team -PtotheY, SK
Joined: 03.15.2014

Jan 6 @ 1:54 PM ET
Babcock is gambling on the 4 points.
- TheMussel

Anderson is starting tonight.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 6 @ 1:54 PM ET
A retort so smart even Gardiner could do better...




- lumlums


Gardiners softer than a soccer player, no way he's ever used the word "(frank)" before.

TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 6 @ 1:54 PM ET
Anderson is starting tonight.
- ClarksonDavid


So he is.

Babcock is playing andersen 2 nights in a row and gambling on 4 points
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 6 @ 1:55 PM ET
Anderson is starting tonight.
- ClarksonDavid



Gambling the Habs are too beat up maybe.

TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 6 @ 1:55 PM ET
How do you know?
- ClarksonDavid


Magic balls.... err.... 8 balls
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 6 @ 1:56 PM ET
i would say the opposite. start the better goalie against the weaker team when your team is fresher and maximize your chance of getting the points against the team closer to you in the standings. the Leafs losing tonight because of lousy backup goaltending would be inexcusable, whereas tomorrow night will be an uphill climb regardless because of fatigue.
- DoubleDown



Good thinking DD.

TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 6 @ 1:57 PM ET
Good thinking DD.


- Garnie


Your avatar is confusing.

I'm scrolling up thinking to myself 'When the hell did I write that?'
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jan 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
Too many Lumlums's!!!!!!!!!!


edit: and Mussels's!!!!!!
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jan 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
Leafs taking the 4 points in the next 2 games , aren't we a little over zealous there , I am a Hab fan who used to tease Leaf fans but no more ! you guys are definitely legit and fun to watch but come on don't go overboard PLEASE , Yes great management and great decisions are being made and the young core is terrific , give them a chance to mature together and at least give the Habs credit for the season they are having ... do you honestly think that the Habs will just lay down and play dead ? The Leafs are doing well and are on their way and a playoff series between the Habs and Leafs would be phenomenal, but please taper the over zealousness with a little reality if the Leafs get 2 that would be great if they get 3 points that will , be really great but winning 2 games in 2 days and the 2nd game is against the Habs and Carrey Price which is no easy thing to do for any team
- toneez


there's the ever present situation that works against the Leafs... i) scheduling which favors the Habs ii) officiating.... call it now... Habs always get a powerplay in the last two minutes of a period if they're trailing...

so yah... Leafs will be hard pushed to get more than 2 points.







before you blow your mind .....

this is an obvious troll (but mostly true)

bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Jan 6 @ 1:59 PM ET
Good thinking DD.


- Garnie

He's trying to trick us into losing with our back up, and you fell for it....
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 6 @ 1:59 PM ET
Leafs taking the 4 points in the next 2 games , aren't we a little over zealous there , I am a Hab fan who used to tease Leaf fans but no more ! you guys are definitely legit and fun to watch but come on don't go overboard PLEASE , Yes great management and great decisions are being made and the young core is terrific , give them a chance to mature together and at least give the Habs credit for the season they are having ... do you honestly think that the Habs will just lay down and play dead ? The Leafs are doing well and are on their way and a playoff series between the Habs and Leafs would be phenomenal, but please taper the over zealousness with a little reality if the Leafs get 2 that would be great if they get 3 points that will , be really great but winning 2 games in 2 days and the 2nd game is against the Habs and Carrey Price which is no easy thing to do for any team
- toneez


Habs pretty beat up, now's the time.
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