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TheUltimateJet
Winnipeg Jets
Joined: 07.16.2013

Dec 28 @ 4:06 PM ET
I really don't think that the Av's should trade Duchene unless its to my favorite team.

I would though like to see Yakupov on the Av's. I think Yak paired with Duchene and Mackinnon would be one fast line. I think the Av's could probably get Yak for a mid round pick.

Blue Clam
St Louis Blues
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 07.16.2009

Dec 28 @ 4:20 PM ET

- smellmyfinger

This just makes me feel bad.

As for the Shatty/Duchene rumour, seems fair. The conditional could be no higher than a 3rd if he doesn't re-sign though.
smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.28.2011

Dec 28 @ 4:26 PM ET
This just makes me feel bad.

As for the Shatty/Duchene rumour, seems fair. The conditional could be no higher than a 3rd if he doesn't re-sign though.

- Blue Clam



gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Dec 28 @ 5:02 PM ET

- smellmyfinger

Hey look it's Mike Augello watching Laine score a goal.
DonaldDump
Location: It's freakin' hooge, MB
Joined: 08.23.2016

Dec 28 @ 5:28 PM ET
I really don't think that the Av's should trade Duchene unless its to my favorite team.

I would though like to see Yakupov on the Av's. I think Yak paired with Duchene and Mackinnon would be one fast line. I think the Av's could probably get Yak for a mid round pick.

- TheUltimateJet


Lol.
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Dec 28 @ 8:23 PM ET
Shattenkirk, Rattie, 2018 conditional pick
For
Duchene, Lindholm

Great deal IF Shattenkirk re-signs. Extremely risky otherwise. Even if that pick is a first if they lose Shattenkirk this is still a bad deal. If they re-sign him though this is getting more than max value for Duchene as you will never get a top defenseman and a high end prospect for Duchene like that. High risk high reward. Though this really makes it weird:

Feb. 2011 trade:

Shattenkirk, Stewart, 2011 2nd (32nd - Ty Rattie)
For
Johnson, McClement, 2011 1st (11th - Duncan Siemens)

Bacially the way you look at it is St. Louis got the better defenseman and somehow the better prospect but that was all due to luck. The forwards are now gone and were meaningless.

So if you combine these deals you get:

Johnson, Duncan Siemens, 2018 conditional pick
For
Duchene

Yikes I do not think any Shattenkirk deal will look amazing but still it could be worse I suppose.

Overall this deal can work out great for Colorado but considering if he doesn't re-sign you basically give up Duchene for a top 9 young forward and a 1st then this is way too risky of a deal. The only I do this as the Avalanche is if they get the first even if they trade Shattenkirk at the trade deadline.

For Colorado you get two months to negotiate with Shattenkirk and if it doesn't work out you move him for a high end prospect and a 1st in 2017 making the deal:
A young NHL ready prospect, a blue chip prospect, 1st in 2017, 1st in 2018 for Duchene. That isn't bad.

It still works with St. Louis as they get a top line center in his 20s and signed for a rental you would lose anyway, a NHL ready prospect and a 1st. Maybe they ask for a conditional mid round pick back should he be traded from Colorado. I don't know.

Hahaha usually complicated clever deals never happen so that should be the answer.
OnTheFly
Joined: 02.03.2010

Dec 28 @ 11:40 PM ET
Avalanche team is too thin on offense to get rid of Duchene. It will not happen.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 28 @ 11:44 PM ET
Shattenkirk, Rattie, 2018 conditional pick
For
Duchene, Lindholm

Great deal IF Shattenkirk re-signs. Extremely risky otherwise. Even if that pick is a first if they lose Shattenkirk this is still a bad deal. If they re-sign him though this is getting more than max value for Duchene as you will never get a top defenseman and a high end prospect for Duchene like that. High risk high reward. Though this really makes it weird:

Feb. 2011 trade:

Shattenkirk, Stewart, 2011 2nd (32nd - Ty Rattie)
For
Johnson, McClement, 2011 1st (11th - Duncan Siemens)

Bacially the way you look at it is St. Louis got the better defenseman and somehow the better prospect but that was all due to luck. The forwards are now gone and were meaningless.

So if you combine these deals you get:

Johnson, Duncan Siemens, 2018 conditional pick
For
Duchene

Yikes I do not think any Shattenkirk deal will look amazing but still it could be worse I suppose.

Overall this deal can work out great for Colorado but considering if he doesn't re-sign you basically give up Duchene for a top 9 young forward and a 1st then this is way too risky of a deal. The only I do this as the Avalanche is if they get the first even if they trade Shattenkirk at the trade deadline.

For Colorado you get two months to negotiate with Shattenkirk and if it doesn't work out you move him for a high end prospect and a 1st in 2017 making the deal:
A young NHL ready prospect, a blue chip prospect, 1st in 2017, 1st in 2018 for Duchene. That isn't bad.

It still works with St. Louis as they get a top line center in his 20s and signed for a rental you would lose anyway, a NHL ready prospect and a 1st. Maybe they ask for a conditional mid round pick back should he be traded from Colorado. I don't know.

Hahaha usually complicated clever deals never happen so that should be the answer.

- Steven_Dean



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_AVZ_
Colorado Avalanche
Location: CO
Joined: 06.05.2012

Dec 29 @ 1:20 AM ET
Maybe Iginla and pick/prospect for Shattenkirk, he's not worth duchene imo, plus the added fact colorado has to give up one of their best players for someone they traded away, I would hope they dont make another Shattenkirk trade mistake. It's not happening, atleast not with duchene I hope......
Aussiepenguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Sydney
Joined: 08.02.2014

Dec 29 @ 2:28 AM ET
Avs not going anywhere this year, no reason to throw away a talent like Duchene for a Dman that 'might' resign. Seems too silly to be true, but does fit into a 'rumour' sized paragraph!

Sounds like St Louis trying to up the value of their piece to some unsuspecting sucker.............NYC???
since93
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2013

Dec 29 @ 4:31 AM ET
bahaha eklund you are still a joke
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
Location: *flush*, NH
Joined: 04.27.2011

Dec 29 @ 8:25 AM ET
This just makes me feel bad.

As for the Shatty/Duchene rumour, seems fair. The conditional could be no higher than a 3rd if he doesn't re-sign though.

- Blue Clam


Get a helmet dude. That's (frank)ing hilarious.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
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Joined: 11.03.2008

Dec 29 @ 9:33 AM ET
I think we just started a rap group
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Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
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Dec 29 @ 9:35 AM ET

- smellmyfinger

Smoooooth. Like this guy:

Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
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Dec 29 @ 9:36 AM ET
I would like to join.

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We know you're easy, Chiefs.
Tumbleweed
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Dec 29 @ 9:37 AM ET
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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
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Dec 29 @ 10:22 AM ET
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glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
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Dec 29 @ 11:35 AM ET
What the (frank) is happening here
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
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Dec 29 @ 11:45 AM ET
What the (frank) is happening here
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DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
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Joined: 07.24.2009

Dec 29 @ 12:01 PM ET
What the (frank) is happening here
- glove_was_stuck


Learn to hip hop
glove_was_stuck
Boston Bruins
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Dec 29 @ 12:03 PM ET
Learn to hip hop
- DDM-Coga


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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
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Dec 29 @ 12:14 PM ET
unpossible. Best left to the pros.
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Met a retarded kid named Greg, with a wooden leg
Snatched it off and beat him over the head with the peg
Gerk
St Louis Blues
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Dec 29 @ 12:42 PM ET
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smellmyfinger
New Jersey Devils
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Dec 29 @ 12:46 PM ET
Met a retarded kid named Greg, with a wooden leg
Snatched it off and beat him over the head with the peg

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glove_was_stuck
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Dec 29 @ 1:52 PM ET
Met a retarded kid named Greg, with a wooden leg
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