its because I have a strategist mentality. Most people dont.

When changes need to be made and are ignored for 2 entire seasons you are lazy. 2 assistants come in making sweeping changes to the D right away. Shows how little the originals did huh? Makes them lazy to me.
- SMBDragon

The D still sucks in my opinion,

Here is my break down on the team

1st Line ______ ______ ______

2nd Line Eriksson ________ _________

3rd line D Sedin, Baertschi Granlund, Sutter, Hovart, H. Sedin Hansen

4th line ________ Gaunce Burrows

AHL, Skille, Megna, Chaput, Rodin

D
1st pair _________ _________
2nd pair Edler Tanev
3rd pair Gudbranson Sbisa

Possible 7-8 Tryamkin, Stecher,

AHL, Hutton, Pedan,

Even your strategist mind couldn't make wine out of this sour grapes roster.

The D still sucks in my opinion,

Here is my break down on the team

1st Line ______ ______ ______

2nd Line Eriksson ________ _________

3rd line D Sedin, Baertschi Granlund, Sutter, Hovart, H. Sedin Hansen

4th line ________ Gaunce Burrows

AHL, Skille, Megna, Chaput, Rodin

D
1st pair _________ _________
2nd pair Edler Tanev
3rd pair Gudbranson Sbisa

Possible 7-8 Tryamkin, Stecher,

AHL, Hutton, Pedan,

Even your strategist mind couldn't make wine out of this sour grapes roster.
- Makita

You have a good point, however(imo) Hutton, Stetcher, and Tryamkin are 3rd pair. Horvat and the twins(and to a lesser extent Baer) are producing at 2nd line level.

The D still sucks in my opinion,

Here is my break down on the team

1st Line ______ ______ ______

2nd Line Eriksson ________ _________

3rd line D Sedin, Baertschi Granlund, Sutter, Hovart, H. Sedin Hansen

4th line ________ Gaunce Burrows

AHL, Skille, Megna, Chaput, Rodin
D
1st pair _________ _________
2nd pair Edler Tanev
3rd pair Gudbranson Sbisa

Possible 7-8 Tryamkin, Stecher,

AHL, Hutton, Pedan,

Even your strategist mind couldn't make wine out of this sour grapes roster.
- Makita

Good thing your not near any bridges with that out look of a Canucks team

The D still sucks in my opinion,

Here is my break down on the team

1st Line ______ ______ ______

2nd Line Eriksson ________ _________

3rd line D Sedin, Baertschi Granlund, Sutter, Hovart, H. Sedin Hansen

4th line ________ Gaunce Burrows

AHL, Skille, Megna, Chaput, Rodin

D
1st pair _________ _________
2nd pair Edler Tanev
3rd pair Gudbranson Sbisa

Possible 7-8 Tryamkin, Stecher,

AHL, Hutton, Pedan,

Even your strategist mind couldn't make wine out of this sour grapes roster.
- Makita

As ridiculous as this seems it is close to bang on. I would get rid of that fourth line too and I like Tryamkin but the idea is correct . The skill level needs to improve dramatically.

You have a good point, however(imo) Hutton, Stetcher, and Tryamkin are 3rd pair. Horvat and the twins(and to a lesser extent Baer) are producing at 2nd line level.
- Retinalz

No they are third liners

Too many Debbie downers, holy fcuk what a bunch
- Makita

Well we have too many bandwagoners & fair weather fans in this city.
Most know nada except quoting the media. Aka cannot think an original thought😜
Put up with them for decades & tune them all out.
My Canucks thru thick n thin forever.

You have a good point, however(imo) Hutton, Stetcher, and Tryamkin are 3rd pair. Horvat and the twins(and to a lesser extent Baer) are producing at 2nd line level.
- Retinalz

I would ask the question if they would be a second line on any of the top 10-15 in the league. I might make a case for Horvat, but i believe he would be 3rd line centre in that context

Good thing your not near any bridges with that out look of a Canucks team

- Kaynine

I'm trying to be realistic, no homer glasses, and this is also why I'll speak up against knee jerk reactions.

Edit: I'll also support the team through thick and thin and have since 71 when i moved to this province.

1st mistake was letting AV go
2nd is most of these fans preaching rebuild have no patience for it as it is.
3rd its the fans who will always be our weakness in the end.
Its proven out over the years how fickle & posers most r.

I'm trying to be realistic, no homer glasses, and this is also why I'll speak up against knee jerk reactions.

Edit: I'll also support the team through thick and thin and have since 71 when i moved to this province.
- Makita

I'm with you, I've supported them since the 82' run.....I was 9.

This might possibly be the toughest stretch that any Nucks fan will have to endure. This summer I was very optimistic and was giving the team the benefit of the doubt. But I have to say the so called "experts" were right. If FA wants to save face with the fans he needs to let JB and TL break it down and rebuild.

no not everyone....there are others here that understand coaching and why its at the center of this. Guess you havent been paying attention

why would I want to have an incorrect view just cause lots of others do. No thanks, I'll keep the correct one thanks
- SMBDragon

Opinions are welcome but stop inflating yourself as the authority on coaching. You never explain the case for it... just go on and on about the results a good coach will get. People are not beneath you when it comes to the subject of coaching. Your insistence that you are one of the few who understands is laughable.

Linden as our coach because he can't be any worse? He has zero experience. You are ok with random inexperienced people stepping behind our bench? How do you expect any credibility with contradictions like that?

Once we r 10-12pts out of the wildcard I'd call up Green & send WD down.
He could use a lil conditioning & groom the kids.😜😂😂

Furthermore once the season is lost i'd try many things out...

Split up the Sedins
Make BO 1C
Let the D run wild & go on the offense
Give Marky the reins
Move out Miller & 1D that is qualified for the expansion draft

Onto the lines....

Sven Bo LE
Rodin Hank Hansen
Dank Sutter Granlund
Megna Gaunce Burrows

Furthermore once the season is lost i'd try many things out...

Split up the Sedins
Make BO 1C
Let the D run wild & go on the offense
Give Marky the reins
Move out Miller & 1D that is qualified for the expansion draft

Onto the lines....

Sven Bo LE
Rodin Hank Hansen
Dank Sutter Granlund
Megna Gaunce Burrows
- Nighthawk

Why wait until the season is lost to tank?

Why wait until the season is lost to tank?
- A_SteamingLombardi

I figure its only 4-6 games from lost tbh

The D still sucks in my opinion,

Here is my break down on the team

1st Line ______ ______ ______

2nd Line Eriksson ________ _________

3rd line D Sedin, Baertschi Granlund, Sutter, Hovart, H. Sedin Hansen

4th line ________ Gaunce Burrows

AHL, Skille, Megna, Chaput, Rodin

D
1st pair _________ _________
2nd pair Edler Tanev
3rd pair Gudbranson Sbisa

Possible 7-8 Tryamkin, Stecher,

AHL, Hutton, Pedan,

Even your strategist mind couldn't make wine out of this sour grapes roster.
- Makita

Not disagreeing in general with your assessment. Would make adjustments to it. Is it based on a Cup contender? Just wondering if this assessment is based on individual talent or how they have looked playing on a poor results team? I bet a good number would perform better on other teams. New to team but underperforming are LE and Guddy for example. But for a team that could be a bubble team but results are bottom 5 there is argument that performance is waning. Don't know if that's part individual execution, injury, schedule or maybe even consider coaching?

I figure its only 4-6 games from lost tbh
- Nighthawk

I took the 9 game losing streak in Oct/Nov as a sign the season was over.

At the 40 game mark its crap or get off the pot😜💨💨

Can the trap & play wide open offensive hockey.
Skate til u drop or ride the pine.
Pull either goalie after a muffin...Keenan ruthless style

Let it be known to the fans we will play fast hockey at any price.

I took the 9 game losing streak in Oct/Nov as a sign the season was over.
- A_SteamingLombardi

It sure was a dismall run for sure.
Time reality takes over n run n gun it.
Let everyone run loose....

Not disagreeing in general with your assessment. Would make adjustments to it. Is it based on a Cup contender? Just wondering if this assessment is based on individual talent or how they have looked playing on a poor results team? I bet a good number would perform better on other teams. New to team but underperforming are LE and Guddy for example. But for a team that could be a bubble team but is resulte are bottom 5 there is argument that performance is waning. Don't know if that's part individual execution, injury, schedule or maybe even consider coaching?
- Nuck4U

i presently look at Gudbranson as a 5th overall, on any team except the bottom 5 where he is 2-3, and Eriksson is a 2nd line LW on our team and possibly others that are better. And as I stated above I could possibly make a case for Horvat also.

You guys can all have blinders on if that's the way you want it, I have and will continue to criticize the coach for certain aspects....but we are not talented enough to solely blame the coach, my opinion.

That's the only reason I come to Willies defense, is the statements that change the coach and the canucks will be playoff bound, and when that coach fails he will be labelled, lazy, soft and stupid.

i presently look at Gudbranson as a 5th overall, on any team except the bottom 5 where he is 2-3, and Eriksson is a 2nd line LW on our team and possibly others that are better. And as I stated above I could possibly make a case for Horvat also.

You guys can all have blinders on if that's the way you want it, I have and will continue to criticize the coach for certain aspects....but we are not talented enough to solely blame the coach, my opinion.

That's the only reason I come to Willies defense, is the statements that change the coach and the canucks will be playoff bound, and when that coach fails he will be labelled, lazy, soft and stupid.
- Makita

I never held any illusions of a rookie coach stepping in here and having any kind of great success. It happens but they typically are hired to be fired by teams like us. I gave him 3 seasons before he would be canned and 4 or 5 to JB gets his walking papers.

I don't believe for a second he is ruining any young careers. He's rotating them through all parts of the line up minus the Sedin line.

I don't know why I still come here, (frank)ing ridiculous.

Huh guess not ....I figured since your opinion of the coaching is so strong you would have been down there watching ...seems kinda lazy to me
- Redmile247

reaching....reaching....

Good discussion

I don't know why I still come here, (frank)ing ridiculous.
- Scooby_Doo

5-3 already, prepare to be kicked solidly this week