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Forums :: Blog World :: Eklund: JvR to Colorado? Hamilton to Toronto (even if no Kadri deal) (e3)
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Avsrchamps01
Joined: 06.27.2012

Dec 23 @ 12:31 PM ET
Jvr for barrie? Where do I sign??
GstrangWondah
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.22.2015

Dec 23 @ 12:34 PM ET

well I could see the islanders wanting to give a scoring winger to Tavares...

thats about it



Yea, i guess so... they have some good young guys coming up through their system tho, no? This season's pretty much a write-off at this point for the isles, so why would they want to trade youth (which is what I'm assuming TOR would want) for a vet who's contract expires next year? It would kinda be like trading for a rental a year in advance... they'd also need to move some salary to make the deal work and not sure TOR would take what the Isles would want to sell... so i dunno, still doesn't make much sense to me.
GstrangWondah
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 12.22.2015

Dec 23 @ 12:44 PM ET
What I don't get is why on earth would the Leafs, who should have about 10-15 more points based on their play, and can expect to rise in the standings as the year goes on, would ever consider trading players who are currently good. They have 3 years when their rookies don't make any real money, so there really is no use in building for the future. I hope they don't trade JVR or Kadri.
- James_Tanner


I agree with you on the most part here, particularly that moving Kadri would be a bad move (unless somebody grossly overpays, of course), but I'm not so sure on JVR. I was reading the other day that his minutes under Babcock have gone down significantly. He has only one year left on his contract after this season -- is TOR willing to re-sign him for market value (I think they've made good deals on Kadri and Reilly -- can they do something similar for JVR)? Or does he test free agency to maybe cash in or get on a team where he'd have a larger role and perhaps more of a SC contender?

I think it would be wise for TOR to cash in on JVR now while his value is high.
bmoney411
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I don't care about being "better" . I care about building a cup contender." -Iggysbff, ON
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 23 @ 12:46 PM ET
Duchene straigt up for JVR ain't happening. Toronto would love it, but nah
- -JCDC-

you mean Avs would love that
Komisaurus Rex
Edmonton Oilers
Location: The carbon tax scam is a racist wealth redistribution scheme, ON
Joined: 06.14.2009

Dec 23 @ 12:47 PM ET
Ryder, Halak and a 2nd for Duchene
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Dec 23 @ 12:49 PM ET
TO to move a 1st for Kadri...oh wait...
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Dec 23 @ 12:51 PM ET
TO to move a 1st for Kadri...oh wait...
- LordHumungous



Two firsts and a second.
Conquest
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.06.2010

Dec 23 @ 12:58 PM ET
Jvr for barrie? Where do I sign??
- Avsrchamps01


No, we need a good defenseman.
Leafs24seven
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 09.26.2010

Dec 23 @ 1:20 PM ET
JVR is not being moved for another forward when our need is D.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 23 @ 1:23 PM ET
What I don't get is why on earth would the Leafs, who should have about 10-15 more points based on their play, and can expect to rise in the standings as the year goes on, would ever consider trading players who are currently good. They have 3 years when their rookies don't make any real money, so there really is no use in building for the future. I hope they don't trade JVR or Kadri.
- James_Tanner



We could use at least 1 more d, must be someone you'd take for JVR or Kadri or a package with 1 of them included?
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 23 @ 1:23 PM ET
JVR is not being moved for another forward when our need is D.
- Leafs24seven



Unless we turn around and flip Duchesne for a D
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Dec 23 @ 1:24 PM ET
Unless we turn around and flip Duchesne for a D
- Garnie

Eman87654
Anaheim Ducks
Location: CA
Joined: 12.06.2015

Dec 23 @ 1:27 PM ET
Kadri for hamilton . It would take two of kadri to get hamiton . Maybe jvr and kadri for hamilton . I understand both Toronto players are having good years this year but if any team buys high on either of these playets they are wasting assets. Kadri has 1 50 point season and jvr never stays healthy . But yeah . Go ahead and overpay .
druryisclutch
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 09.21.2006

Dec 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
Why must people try to force this Hamilton rumour. I'm sure eklund isn't pulling this out of his ass, his "sources" are telling him this. But unless Toronto way over pays for him it wouldn't happen.
- Bigalow


Wait, isn't this the same thing?
Buggy166
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.01.2007

Dec 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
We could use at least 1 more d, must be someone you'd take for JVR or Kadri or a package with 1 of them included?
- Garnie



Id argue Kadri is more valuable NOW, long term, than JvR is.

He's been solid on D and suffocating #1 centers on the other team. JVR is a great scorer from in close, but we have the new trio of Nylander/Marner/Matthews that can help carry the load in his absence.

The only way JvR gets moved is for a top 2 d-man, and stop saying this player isnt worth that player, this isnt EA sports, there's packages that can be made, and it all depends on the needs of the team.

Leafs arent desperate for a d-man but do need one. Islanders for example are desperate for someone to play with Tavares or else he's done with that team and leaving at the end of the year. Colorado is too far gone imo to be "desperate" since at this point, they look like they need everything...like 12 new players.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Dec 23 @ 1:31 PM ET
Kadri for hamilton . It would take two of kadri to get hamiton . Maybe jvr and kadri for hamilton . I understand both Toronto players are having good years this year but if any team buys high on either of these playets they are wasting assets. Kadri has 1 50 point season and jvr never stays healthy . But yeah . Go ahead and overpay .
- Eman87654

BAHAHAHA!

this is awesome.
JVR and Kadri for Hamilton...come on.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
Kadri for hamilton . It would take two of kadri to get hamiton . Maybe jvr and kadri for hamilton . I understand both Toronto players are having good years this year but if any team buys high on either of these playets they are wasting assets. Kadri has 1 50 point season and jvr never stays healthy . But yeah . Go ahead and overpay .
- Eman87654

Kadri and Kadri's sister for Hamilton.

Done.
Buggy166
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.01.2007

Dec 23 @ 1:33 PM ET
Kadri for hamilton . It would take two of kadri to get hamiton . Maybe jvr and kadri for hamilton . I understand both Toronto players are having good years this year but if any team buys high on either of these playets they are wasting assets. Kadri has 1 50 point season and jvr never stays healthy . But yeah . Go ahead and overpay .
- Eman87654


Might as well ask for Kane and Towes for any top 4 d-man in the league.

Lets trade a 2nd line center and a 1st line power forward for a #2-4 dman...totally makes sense.
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Dec 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
I could see JVR going to NYI as he is from the area, and except for last year always healthy.

Kadri is a valuable asset to the leafs, would take more than Hamilton!

Adding Hamonic and Hamilton would shore up the D pretty nicely!
Razzdazzle1
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.17.2015

Dec 23 @ 1:45 PM ET

If Hall was traded for Larsson... Then it'll be Hamilton for Marner.


Buggy166
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.01.2007

Dec 23 @ 1:47 PM ET
If Hall was traded for Larsson... Then it'll be Hamilton for Marner.
- Razzdazzle1


As soon as Toronto gets McDavid, you'll get that trade to happen.
Razzdazzle1
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.17.2015

Dec 23 @ 1:49 PM ET
As soon as Toronto gets McDavid, you'll get that trade to happen.
- Buggy166



Flames don't really want it to happen. That's why it'll a be Marner. Toronto is the one desperate for D.

Bigalow
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Chilliwack, BC
Joined: 07.25.2013

Dec 23 @ 1:51 PM ET
you mean Avs would love that
- bmoney411


Loool that's cute.
Russell23
Joined: 06.28.2011

Dec 23 @ 1:55 PM ET
Ohhh please stop it... no one is going to know what Lou does until it's done.... if this is the best ya can do ... get a hobby
Bigalow
Season Ticket Holder
Calgary Flames
Location: Chilliwack, BC
Joined: 07.25.2013

Dec 23 @ 1:56 PM ET
As soon as Toronto gets McDavid, you'll get that trade to happen.
- Buggy166


That's just the equal value. D-men are worth more then forwards. Hamilton is better then Larsen and way better then Larsen offensively. The only knock on Hamilton is that he doesn't use his body. So yes if Larsen was traded for hall it would take a nylander and a high pick or prospect or a marker to pull that deal off.
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