So with taking into account all the different variables in regards to the expansion draft. Who would our most likely, let's say three, player would be that we may lose one to Vegas?
- sskkoo1

My guess is that it will be Larsson. I would love it to be Bogosian or Moulson, but I can't see Vegas wanting to tie itself down with that sort of cap space. You can easily sign more productive veterans for shorter term if getting to the cap floor becomes an issue.

Great reed

you didn't say that...you said at his best
- Michael Pachla

He has always had trouble playing with other talent. He is absolutely at his best in a fore checking role.

Great reed
- cabin

thx for reeding

hi
- Michael Pachla

That's why i said 3rd line minutes, although he saw a lot of ice time last game

He has always had trouble playing with other talent. He is absolutely at his best in a fore checking role.
- sbroads24

it's because he's a leo

you didn't say that...you said at his best
- Michael Pachla

Yes. Since he's been here, when he's played his best hockey, he has been an above average third liner.

My guess is that it will be Larsson. I would love it to be Bogosian or Moulson, but I can't see Vegas wanting to tie itself down with that sort of cap space. You can easily sign more productive veterans for shorter term if getting to the cap floor becomes an issue.
- buffalofan19

The team they select through expansion has to be cap compliant though no? in other words they'll have take someones salary?

He has always had trouble playing with other talent. He is absolutely at his best in a fore checking role.
- sbroads24

Ultimately he's too expensive for what he brings.

it's because he's a leo
- Michael Pachla

Well, for most of his career he's been a cancer

Ultimately he's too expensive for what he brings.
- BINGO!

That's what i was trying to say but failed miserably, thank you

Yes. Since he's been here, when he's played his best hockey, he has been an above average third liner.
- buffalofan19

his best hockey has been over the last 10 games...6 goals, 3 assists

even over the 20 games he's played this year he's on an 82-game pace of 24 goals and 20 assists...

without first-unit powerplay time

not sure there are a lot of third-liners who produce that...if you have a list, more power to ya

please give us da points
- BINGO!

No. We need them just as bad as you.

Well, for most of his career he's been a cancer
- sbroads24

*rim shot*

well played, brodie

Ennis
Moulson
Ullmark
- Stripes77

I can see Ullmark being left unprotected, but I don't see Vegas taking him. Just will be too many veteran goalies out there for them to choose from. Putting together some wins in their first season will be important and I don't see them leaving the pipes to an unproven rookie.

his best hockey has been over the last 10 games...6 goals, 3 assists

even over the 20 games he's played this year he's on an 82-game pace of 24 goals and 20 assists...

without first-unit powerplay time

not sure there are a lot of third-liners who produce that...if you have a list, more power to ya
- Michael Pachla

While mostly playing on 3rd and 4th lines.


Hence, the "better than average" part. He has offensive talent. I don't think anybody in their right mind disputes that. However, in the season and a half he's played here, when in a top 6 role, the team has been far worse off. Sbroads put it best. He struggles playing with other talent. That makes him a 3rd liner, except with an above average skill set compared to most other 3rd liners.

his best hockey has been over the last 10 games...6 goals, 3 assists

even over the 20 games he's played this year he's on an 82-game pace of 24 goals and 20 assists...

without first-unit powerplay time

not sure there are a lot of third-liners who produce that...if you have a list, more power to ya
- Michael Pachla

Why are we limiting the sample though?
He had 35 points last year.

He's on pace for around that this year.

He's never going to play 82.

While mostly playing on 3rd and 4th lines.


Hence, the "better than average" part. He has offensive talent. I don't think anybody in their right mind disputes that. However, in the season and a half he's played here, when in a top 6 role, the team has been far worse off. Sbroads put it best. He struggles playing with other talent. That makes him a 3rd liner, except with an above average skill set compared to most other 3rd liners.
- buffalofan19

point taken...

we'll see where this latest run takes him

Why are we limiting the sample though?
He had 35 points last year.

He's on pace for around that this year.

He's never going to play 82.
- sbroads24

the words "playing his best hockey" entered into the equation

point taken...

we'll see where this latest run takes him
- Michael Pachla

Probably Vancouver or Minnesota

While mostly playing on 3rd and 4th lines.


Hence, the "better than average" part. He has offensive talent. I don't think anybody in their right mind disputes that. However, in the season and a half he's played here, when in a top 6 role, the team has been far worse off. Sbroads put it best. He struggles playing with other talent. That makes him a 3rd liner, except with an above average skill set compared to most other 3rd liners.
- buffalofan19

And he's dumb as (frank)...

And he's dumb as (frank)...
- jochfr

There are a lot of those in the bottom 6 throughout the league.

the words "playing his best hockey" entered into the equation
- Michael Pachla

Gotcha. He is playing very well right now. I think in part because of where he's slotted on the team.

He's not expected to score a goal every other night like he would be with Jack. He's just expected to be a wrecking ball, and capitalizing on chances right now

There are a lot of those in the bottom 6 throughout the league.
- buffalofan19

And on this website

And on this website
- jochfr

I beat people up with my mind