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Conquest
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.06.2010

Dec 9 @ 4:13 PM ET
Speaking of Flyers named Luke, remember when Domi ran and hid from Luke Richardson?



- Lexington Flyer


This is true, I'm not a domi fanboy
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 4:14 PM ET
You reading comprehension is lacking. I never said I wanted his dad to pull out either.
- LittleRickyV2


Fair enough. Why did you question why his dad did not choose to pull out? And why are you so into his dad?
LittleRickyV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 01.26.2016

Dec 9 @ 4:14 PM ET
Probably didn't feel like cleaning up the mess. Don't blame him to be honest. And how do you know he was conceived at night pervert?
- sbakley13

The level 69 Wizard told me so...
Matt Henderson
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
Never said it was a bad idea to write about, simply that he let his emotions around the situation influence his writing a lot more than usual and- as evidenced by the fans in this blog that belong to neither team involved- that makes him look like a homer.

Being a fan and reacting to slights against your team and players happens, but that doesn't make it any less sensitive. He's taking a situation that can easily be looked at more rationally and approaching it with a whole lot of bias. Not completely unfounded bias but bias nonetheless.

- MaximumBone


If we can have a slightly serious discussion about bias, I think it's dangerous for writers to pretend that they dont have one. First and foremost, it's a lie. Going to J School or being hired by a major newspaper/company doesnt absolve someone of all their past experiences and deepest most inner beliefs. To pretend that someone can be unbiased in sports writing is crazy talk.

The only reason we even entertain the idea that writers can and should be unbiased is because they've been pretending to do it for so long it would be rude to let them know we're onto them. It's like telling a kid there's no Santa.

So personally, I've never wanted to lie to anyone about my biases. Now, I also like to support most of my writing with evidence (like testimonial by the league's best player about what was admitted to him by another player, or fancy stats, or logic).

Emotion is also very important. It's pretty easy to be lifeless. I dont want to make every post or every part of a post about numbers and facts. Sports writing in general should convey the emotion of the game because that's what the fan is there to enjoy. I can describe the game using shot attempts but nobody is sitting there yelling "CORSI! DAMN RIGHTS, NUGE. YOU GET THAT BLOCKED SHOT!!!"

As far as being a Homer goes, more than half the entire blog was me ripping the Oilers for their effort. Gustavsson is a fish, Klefbom a broken man, and Nuge got his lunch money stolen from him by the bigger kid in the 5th grade. So a little perspective about the blog as a whole needs to be taken there.

That said, Brandon Manning is still a fake NHL player and not worthy of being in the same league as McDavid.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 4:15 PM ET
This is true, I'm not a domi fanboy
- Conquest


I really respected Tie for years. He never backed down and fought all of the heavies, Probert being his most famous multi-go partner. But turning down both McCarthy and Berube, then hitting Burt as he was held down, then hiding behind Kaberle, then talking poop when the ref had McCarthy pinned...it was all gone that night.
belcherbd
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Nanaimo
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 9 @ 4:16 PM ET
But we wouldn't be having this conversation if it was a lesser player. And least not still anyway


I don't think he pouted. I think he was asked a question and he answered it truthfully



I guess we'll just have to choose to view his words in different ways because of personal bias


I never wanna see Connor fighting some low level plugs. Neither he nor the oilers have anything to gain from it

- HB77


Any time you call a player out in public, using words like classless, it goes a bit beyond just answering a question. Chalk it up to youth or frustration etc but that's on Connor, not the media, not Manning, not my bias.

I agree, that he shouldn't be fighting, it would be idiotic, but Connor knows that as well I doubt he wants to hide behind Lucic or whomever.

MaximumBone
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.15.2012

Dec 9 @ 4:16 PM ET
I want the deal that you charge McDavid when he comes through.
- arichardson22

Jesus, man. Customer loyalty discounts can only be applied once a customer has proven some degree of loyalty. Everyone knows that.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 4:16 PM ET
If we can have a slightly serious discussion about bias, I think it's dangerous for writers to pretend that they dont have one. First and foremost, it's a lie. Going to J School or being hired by a major newspaper/company doesnt absolve someone of all their past experiences and deepest most inner beliefs. To pretend that someone can be unbiased in sports writing is crazy talk.

The only reason we even entertain the idea that writers can and should be unbiased is because they've been pretending to do it for so long it would be rude to let them know we're onto them. It's like telling a kid there's no Santa.

So personally, I've never wanted to lie to anyone about my biases. Now, I also like to support most of my writing with evidence (like testimonial by the league's best player about what was admitted to him by another player, or fancy stats, or logic).

Emotion is also very important. It's pretty easy to be lifeless. I dont want to make every post or every part of a post about numbers and facts. Sports writing in general should convey the emotion of the game because that's what the fan is there to enjoy. I can describe the game using shot attempts but nobody is sitting there yelling "CORSI! DAMN RIGHTS, NUGE. YOU GET THAT BLOCKED SHOT!!!"

As far as being a Homer goes, more than half the entire blog was me ripping the Oilers for their effort. Gustavsson is a fish, Klefbom a broken man, and Nuge got his lunch money stolen from him by the bigger kid in the 5th grade. So a little perspective about the blog as a whole needs to be taken there.

That said, Brandon Manning is still a fake NHL player and not worthy of being in the same league as McDavid.

- Matt_Henderson


What exactly constitutes "fake NHL player?"
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 4:16 PM ET
The only issue I have is the "some of our guys" part. If McDavid doesn't want to waste his time fighting a 5/6 defenseman, that's fine. But if that's the case, then you shouldn't have to have someone else fight him, either. Just my take. Other than that, aside from me believing that what's said on the ice stays on the ice, I have no problem with his answer.
- jmatchett383

Good post

I think we all know the unwritten rules and the hierarchy of the game. But agreed that expressly stating as such was probably in poor taste (the 'our guys fighting' comment .)
But yeah- overall, I didn't feel like he came across as a baby or a whiner or any of the nonsense he's been called.
LittleRickyV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 01.26.2016

Dec 9 @ 4:18 PM ET
Fair enough. Why did you question why his dad did not choose to pull out? And why are you so into his dad?
- jmatchett383

He told me to ask another question and you have no reason to think I'm into his dad unless part of your repressed sexuality has you fantasising about various scenarios that include two men together.
RonPielep
Location: "Welcome to HockeyBuzz. Come for the rumors. Stay for the idiots." - Feds91Stammer
Joined: 08.21.2014

Dec 9 @ 4:18 PM ET
Thanks.

I feel like I've been coming to HB for years I've just never read this Henderson guy, is he someone?

- shekkie


Hendo is alright. My biggest bone to pick with him is definitely the emotional sensationalism in his writing (as seen on display today). He can be overly negative/dour about the team for weeks on end and he can be overly stubborn with certain theories/narratives that he tends to beat to death. Otherwise he is a decent blogger, interacts a bit with his readers, good sense of humor in general. Most importantly, he is an above average Hockeybuzz blogger because he can usually write coherent sentences. That's the most important standard.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 9 @ 4:18 PM ET
He told me to ask another question and you have no reason to think I'm into his dad unless part of your repressed sexuality has you fantasising about various scenarios that include two men together.
- LittleRickyV2

wrekd
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 4:18 PM ET
He told me to ask another question and you have no reason to think I'm into his dad unless part of your repressed sexuality has you fantasising about various scenarios that include two men together.
- LittleRickyV2


I'm all about multi dude fantasies. Glad you share my fascination.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 9 @ 4:18 PM ET
Why didn't your dad choose to pull out the night you were conceived ?
- LittleRickyV2

I was conceived immaculately
Conquest
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.06.2010

Dec 9 @ 4:19 PM ET
I really respected Tie for years. He never backed down and fought all of the heavies, Probert being his most famous multi-go partner. But turning down both McCarthy and Berube, then hitting Burt as he was held down, then hiding behind Kaberle, then talking poop when the ref had McCarthy pinned...it was all gone that night.
- jmatchett383


Man, him and probert... yeah i agree, that and his lame ass comwave commercials though i would love a domi-type player on the leafs right now, martin is just a turd
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 9 @ 4:19 PM ET
His jaw was tired, I assume.
- BINGO!

HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 4:19 PM ET
Any time you call a player out in public, using words like classless, it goes a bit beyond just answering a question. Chalk it up to youth or frustration etc but that's on Connor, not the media, not Manning, not my bias.

I agree, that he shouldn't be fighting, it would be idiotic, but Connor knows that as well I doubt he wants to hide behind Lucic or whomever.

- belcherbd


Fair


As far as hiding, Connors always willing to engage physically and has been given a rough ride on a few nights. But never backs down an inch. But when the fists come out- he needs to defer
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 9 @ 4:19 PM ET

That said, Brandon Manning is still a fake NHL player and not worthy of being in the same league as McDavid.

- Matt_Henderson


Based on his having played 102 games in the NHL you are clearly wrong.
Just like the people saying McDavid should have dropped the gloves are wrong.

leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Dec 9 @ 4:19 PM ET
If we can have a slightly serious discussion about bias, I think it's dangerous for writers to pretend that they dont have one. First and foremost, it's a lie. Going to J School or being hired by a major newspaper/company doesnt absolve someone of all their past experiences and deepest most inner beliefs. To pretend that someone can be unbiased in sports writing is crazy talk.

The only reason we even entertain the idea that writers can and should be unbiased is because they've been pretending to do it for so long it would be rude to let them know we're onto them. It's like telling a kid there's no Santa.

So personally, I've never wanted to lie to anyone about my biases. Now, I also like to support most of my writing with evidence (like testimonial by the league's best player about what was admitted to him by another player, or fancy stats, or logic).

Emotion is also very important. It's pretty easy to be lifeless. I dont want to make every post or every part of a post about numbers and facts. Sports writing in general should convey the emotion of the game because that's what the fan is there to enjoy. I can describe the game using shot attempts but nobody is sitting there yelling "CORSI! DAMN RIGHTS, NUGE. YOU GET THAT BLOCKED SHOT!!!"

As far as being a Homer goes, more than half the entire blog was me ripping the Oilers for their effort. Gustavsson is a fish, Klefbom a broken man, and Nuge got his lunch money stolen from him by the bigger kid in the 5th grade. So a little perspective about the blog as a whole needs to be taken there.

That said, Brandon Manning is still a fake NHL player and not worthy of being in the same league as McDavid.

- Matt_Henderson



As I stated earlier, Thank you for making it a Corsi free blog. I usually do yell "Corsi" when I do read your blogs, but in a negative way, like when Kirk yelled "Khaaaaaaaaaan".
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Dec 9 @ 4:20 PM ET
He told me to ask another question and you have no reason to think I'm into his dad unless part of your repressed sexuality has you fantasising about various scenarios that include two men together.
- LittleRickyV2


I believe MaximumBone has his hands all over this one
LittleRickyV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 01.26.2016

Dec 9 @ 4:20 PM ET
I'm all about multi dude fantasies. Glad you share my fascination.
- jmatchett383

Sorry I don't share those fantasies but to each their own
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 4:21 PM ET
Sorry I don't share those fantasies but to each their own
- LittleRickyV2


You're so cute when you play the victim.

I wish your dad was with me the night you were conceived.
LittleRickyV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 01.26.2016

Dec 9 @ 4:21 PM ET
I was conceived immaculately
- YuenglingJagr

LittleRickyV2
Edmonton Oilers
Location: BC
Joined: 01.26.2016

Dec 9 @ 4:22 PM ET
You're so cute when you play the victim.

I wish your dad was with me the night you were conceived.

- jmatchett383

You're a big fan of Top Gun aren't you
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Dec 9 @ 4:23 PM ET
Hendo is alright. My biggest bone to pick with him is definitely the emotional sensationalism in his writing (as seen on display today). He can be overly negative/dour about the team for weeks on end and he can be overly stubborn with certain theories/narratives that he tends to beat to death. Otherwise he is a decent blogger, interacts a bit with his readers, good sense of humor in general. Most importantly, he is an above average Hockeybuzz blogger because he can usually write coherent sentences. That's the most important standard.
- RonPielep


Anyone miss Cloutier or is that name still taboo?
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