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chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Dec 9 @ 3:36 PM ET
Cal Clutterbuck's new five-year deal with the New York Islanders is worth $17.5 million.
That $3.5 million cap hit seems like quite a bit for a 29-year-old forward that typically serves in the third or fourth line and usually records between 10-20 points per season. That being said, Clutterbuck has played beyond that description so far this season, averaging 15:26 minutes per game and recording nine points in 25 games. He's also stayed physical with 89 hits. This still seems like a lot of money to throw at him though, given that he might end up seeing his role decline again (it was just last season he was averaging 11:55 minutes) and he might also regress as the contract goes on.


Is it me or do the Islanders seem lost

- SABRES 89

More than lost

They'd got nearly 16 million tied up in their 4th liners (Cizikas, Clutterbuck, Kulemin, Grabovski)
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 9 @ 3:44 PM ET
Cal Clutterbuck's new five-year deal with the New York Islanders is worth $17.5 million.
That $3.5 million cap hit seems like quite a bit for a 29-year-old forward that typically serves in the third or fourth line and usually records between 10-20 points per season. That being said, Clutterbuck has played beyond that description so far this season, averaging 15:26 minutes per game and recording nine points in 25 games. He's also stayed physical with 89 hits. This still seems like a lot of money to throw at him though, given that he might end up seeing his role decline again (it was just last season he was averaging 11:55 minutes) and he might also regress as the contract goes on.


Is it me or do the Islanders seem lost

- SABRES 89



more like clueless.... they let all those guys walk over the summer, and sign this guy to that kind of money? dumb...
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Dec 9 @ 3:45 PM ET
more like clueless.... they let all those guys walk over the summer, and sign this guy to that kind of money? dumb...
- gordong

And they have Tavares to sign coming up in 2018
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 9 @ 3:46 PM ET
And they have Tavares to sign coming up in 2018
- chilliard77

I don't think they are counting too much on that
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 9 @ 3:47 PM ET
And they have Tavares to sign coming up in 2018
- chilliard77


If I'm Tavares I'm not signing anything with them any time soon. That team is a hot mess.

CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 9 @ 3:48 PM ET
And they have Tavares to sign coming up in 2018
- chilliard77



Pretty sure they know that is not happening....
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 9 @ 3:50 PM ET
Pretty sure they know that is not happening....
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

Even islanders fans think he is coming here.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Dec 9 @ 3:51 PM ET
I don't think they are counting too much on that
- cabin

Then trade him now and start the rebuild. They're barely winning with him, they won't win without him.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Dec 9 @ 3:52 PM ET
Honestly, yeah. The Islanders are a (frank)ing wreck. There's only a handful of contracts on that team I would take even for free.

*cough Leddy cough cough*
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 9 @ 3:54 PM ET
Honestly, yeah. The Islanders are a (frank)ing wreck. There's only a handful of contracts on that team I would take even for free.

*cough Leddy cough cough*

- chilliard77

Forwards all signed past next season.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/islanders
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 9 @ 3:54 PM ET
Even islanders fans think he is coming here.
- cabin


Not sure we have the space cap wise for him. I'm sure they could make it work if they really wanted to, but things are getting a little tight around here.

(And yes I know, Gionta, Franson and a few others will fall off after this year).
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Dec 9 @ 3:55 PM ET
Forwards all signed past next season.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/islanders

- cabin

I'm on that page right now actually lol. They are in a bad spot. I don't know whether they can be salvaged.
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 9 @ 3:56 PM ET
Not sure we have the space cap wise for him. I'm sure they could make it work if they really wanted to, but things are getting a little tight around here.

(And yes I know, Gionta, Franson and a few others will fall off after this year).

- HonkFortheGoose


Oh I agree. I hope GMTM is good with numbers and has an idea what he is gonna do. Lots of work this July . Lots of contracts need signing or replaced.
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Dec 9 @ 3:56 PM ET
Not sure we have the space cap wise for him. I'm sure they could make it work if they really wanted to, but things are getting a little tight around here.

(And yes I know, Gionta, Franson and a few others will fall off after this year).

- HonkFortheGoose

I'd love Tavares but it's ridiculously unlikely. Superstars just don't hit FA. Even if he did, why would he come to Buffalo?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 9 @ 3:57 PM ET
I'm on that page right now actually lol. They are in a bad spot. I don't know whether they can be salvaged.
- chilliard77

Lots coming off the books in 2 years. 40m in cap space . maybe it will work out ?
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Dec 9 @ 3:59 PM ET
Lots coming off the books in 2 years. 40m in cap space . maybe it will work out ?
- cabin

Those Ladd, Boychuck, Cizikas, and Clutterbuck deals are baaaadd
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Dec 9 @ 3:59 PM ET
Even islanders fans think he is coming here.
- cabin



By here you mean Toronto?
cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Dec 9 @ 4:01 PM ET
By here you mean Toronto?
- CoHo_to_B-Lo

HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 9 @ 4:01 PM ET
I'd love Tavares but it's ridiculously unlikely. Superstars just don't hit FA. Even if he did, why would he come to Buffalo?
- chilliard77


In most cases, I would agree. But he does have ties to the area in Okoposo and Moulson. Not to mention an uncle who has been treated very well by the fans in this city.
buffalokb
Joined: 02.24.2011

Dec 9 @ 4:01 PM ET
Even islanders fans think he is coming here.
- cabin


Babcock to Buffalo done deal
Stamkos to Buffalo done deal
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Dec 9 @ 4:02 PM ET
If I were Tim Murray I'd be on the phone with Mr. Snow right now making a big Richard offer for Leddy
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Dec 9 @ 4:04 PM ET
In most cases, I would agree. But he does have ties to the area in Okoposo and Moulson. Not to mention an uncle who has been treated very well by the fans in this city.
- HonkFortheGoose

I just don't see it. We just saw it with Stamkos. It just doesn't happen. And I know he's friends with both of them, but if I'm him the offer of coming and playing with Matt Moulson and Okposo doesn't entice me much.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Dec 9 @ 4:07 PM ET
I just don't see it. We just saw it with Stamkos. It just doesn't happen. And I know he's friends with both of them, but if I'm him the offer of coming and playing with Matt Moulson and Okposo doesn't entice me much.
- chilliard77


Like I said, I generally agree. While it would be nice to have him, I don't know that it would ever actually happen.

However, you're selling the team short if you think that Okposo and Moulson are all we would have to entice him to come here.

There's a fellow named Jack Eichel on the team, who's pretty damn good.
gordong
Location: NY
Joined: 02.06.2007

Dec 9 @ 4:11 PM ET
Even islanders fans think he is coming here.
- cabin



well that sure would fill out our top two lines.....
chilliard77
Location: NY
Joined: 08.23.2011

Dec 9 @ 4:12 PM ET
Like I said, I generally agree. While it would be nice to have him, I don't know that it would ever actually happen.

However, you're selling the team short if you think that Okposo and Moulson are all we would have to entice him to come here.

There's a fellow named Jack Eichel on the team, who's pretty damn good.

- HonkFortheGoose

It really comes down to winning. If we do some damage next year, it changes. I know Okposo did, but not everyone is going to come here on the "credit" of Jack Eichel. The team needs to back it up.

I think it's best to reconvene this convo next year (I know we all will be lol) after we see the results of this team.
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