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Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 9 @ 9:11 AM ET
What's the big deal? Players try to get under each other's skin all the time. Manning got under mcdavids skin in this game. After the game ended and mcdavid calmed down he did his best to put it back on manning.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 9 @ 9:14 AM ET
To paraphrase Mike Schmidt; only on Flyersbuzz can you celebrate the joy of victory and the agony of reading about it the next day!

They've won 7 in a row! Go have a drink and smile!
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 9 @ 9:14 AM ET
No checking line and still a poor D group. Edmonton will have a bunch of wild 5-4, 6-5 games this season.
- dragonoffrost

They're much better defensively than given credit for. They had some key injuries too last night
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Dec 9 @ 9:14 AM ET
There is no way Manning would have turned that down. He wouldn't be doing his job if he didnt take Mcdavid off the ice for 5 mins. Its ridiculous to think Manning would've turned it down
- Just5


Manning had a concussion suffered in a fight 2 weeks ago. It's not ridiculous that he's avoiding the fisticuffs for a while.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 9 @ 9:15 AM ET
I think so -- you lost a game in regulation in which you scored five goals. You haven't made the playoffs in a decade. You're the captain of the team. Could be there's other stuff to talk about and think about than yourself and a defenseman on the other team who, while having a pretty solid season, is really a 16-18 minute defender
- AllInForFlyers


Regardless of what and how the media asked the question, he's the captain of the team. The right thing to do (dare I say the "classy" thing to do?) was to deflect and put the focus back on the team rather than himself.

He's 19. He'll learn.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 9:15 AM ET
No checking line and still a poor D group. Edmonton will have a bunch of wild 5-4, 6-5 games this season.
- dragonoffrost



I think Edmonton was missing a few defenseman last night, and even had a rookie making his NHL debut. The also weren't playing their number 1 goaltender and his .946 SV%. Edmonton is a middle of the pack defensive team, giving up 2.72 GA per game.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Dec 9 @ 9:15 AM ET
There is no way Manning would have turned that down. He wouldn't be doing his job if he didnt take Mcdavid off the ice for 5 mins. Its ridiculous to think Manning would've turned it down
- Just5


Carcillo vs Gaborik, Part II.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 9 @ 9:16 AM ET
To paraphrase Mike Schmidt; only on Flyersbuzz can you celebrate the joy of victory and the agony of reading about it the next day!

They've won 7 in a row! Go have a drink and smile!

- BiggE


Might have been the most entertaining game of the season.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 9:16 AM ET
What's the big deal? Players try to get under each other's skin all the time. Manning got under mcdavids skin in this game. After the game ended and mcdavid calmed down he did his best to put it back on manning.
- Dkos



I agree, this situation is being totally overblown. Neither player did anything wrong. In the game, or after the game.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 9 @ 9:18 AM ET
Hakstol tried to use Provy and AMac to shutdown McDavid...I told him ManDog was the way to go...I told him!
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 9 @ 9:20 AM ET
Might have been the most entertaining game of the season.
- johndewar


Very entertaining and as I said I like Edmonton's players they are definitely going to be a fun team to watch for the near future.

McDavid going Crosby will have some backlash but I'm not going to kill him for it. Febrauary 16th should be fun.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 9 @ 9:20 AM ET
Hakstol tried to use Provy and AMac to shutdown McDavid...I told him ManDog was the way to go...I told him!
- YuenglingJagr


But Provy and AMac were the twosome against Connor most of the game.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Dec 9 @ 9:21 AM ET
Cant say enough about what an active and offensively skilled blue line does for ES point production
- YuenglingJagr

+1000
I give credit to Hexy for trying to get the right players to fix this and also credit Haks for his system and getting guys to pinch aggressively at the offensive D line. It doesn't always work out but I love the system especially with the right personnel.

Can't wait to see Sanheim in this system.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 9 @ 9:22 AM ET
But Provy and AMac were the twosome against Connor most of the game.
- dragonoffrost


Bellemare had a strong game against him, about as good as you can at ES
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 9 @ 9:22 AM ET
I think Edmonton was missing a few defenseman last night, and even had a rookie making his NHL debut. The also weren't playing their number 1 goaltender and his .946 SV%. Edmonton is a middle of the pack defensive team, giving up 2.72 GA per game.
- MJL


Monster did look bad and really we should have had 8 goals. I swore Talbot wanted in after the 3 goals in 1:12. I might have even been inclined as their coach to make that change.

How many odd man rushes did the Flyers get. It just seems to be every other minute there was another 3 on 2.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 9 @ 9:24 AM ET
Bellemare had a strong game against him, about as good as you can at ES
- AllInForFlyers


Yes for all the poop we gave VdV-PEB-Lyub ... they did very well last night.

I think Hak had a 5 man unit to use against McDavid's line.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 9 @ 9:25 AM ET
FWIW, Manning told TSN that McDavid never challenged him to fight

He doesn't have to. But it's in the story
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Dec 9 @ 9:27 AM ET
Yes for all the poop we gave VdV-PEB-Lyub ... they did very well last night.

I think Hak had a 5 man unit to use against McDavid's line.

- dragonoffrost


It worked well last night. TBH, it's the first time I saw whatever it is they see in Bellemare. I don't hate him, for the record. Just thought they were using him way too much, but he did play well last night
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 9 @ 9:32 AM ET
Streit's goal was right as a PP ended.
- dragonoffrost


He was clearly talking about MacDonald who is currently right behind Erik Karlsson in 5 on 5 production.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 9 @ 9:32 AM ET
It worked well last night. TBH, it's the first time I saw whatever it is they see in Bellemare. I don't hate him, for the record. Just thought they were using him way too much, but he did play well last night
- AllInForFlyers


He might be a better matchup against Mcdavid anyway. Bellemare is shiftier than Coots.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 9 @ 9:32 AM ET
FWIW, Manning told TSN that McDavid never challenged him to fight

He doesn't have to. But it's in the story

- AllInForFlyers


Manning may be going by the what's said on the ice stays there code.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 9 @ 9:34 AM ET
Its refreshing seeing Calgary/Edmonton atop that division
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 9 @ 9:34 AM ET
He might be a better matchup against Mcdavid anyway. Bellemare is shiftier than Coots.
- Just5


So shifty he completely lost his bearings on the 3rd goal and gave up a point blank shot in the slot.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 9 @ 9:34 AM ET
I think I asked this the other day, but is there a good website for individual game performance per player for advanced stats?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 9 @ 9:35 AM ET
So shifty be completely lost his bearings on the 3rd goal and gave up a point blank shot in the slot.
- Feanor

The short handed goal where there was a total team breakdown?
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