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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Dec 9 @ 5:16 PM ET
go home, bill watters, you're (frank)ing drunk.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 9 @ 5:16 PM ET
I'm streaming on xbone tonight actually been so tied up this week haven't been scouting much

Maybe by Sunday I'll have something for ya ass

- Mordecai


streaming what
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 9 @ 5:18 PM ET
streaming what
- Mononoke

Destiny probs. After Christmas I'll be streaming Arma 3 from the new pc though!
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 9 @ 5:21 PM ET
Destiny probs. After Christmas I'll be streaming Arma 3 from the new pc though!
- Mordecai


Gotta get dat loot get dat loot.

I'm playing Gears now, and I have been sitting on the Witcher 3 for a long time. Maybe this holiday when I get more time. I also got this arcade game called Inside on the Black Friday sale. Supposed to be great, from the makers of Limbo.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 9 @ 5:28 PM ET
Gotta get dat loot get dat loot.

I'm playing Gears now, and I have been sitting on the Witcher 3 for a long time. Maybe this holiday when I get more time. I also got this arcade game called Inside on the Black Friday sale. Supposed to be great, from the makers of Limbo.

- Mononoke

Witcher 3 is awesome. I've actually never played a gears of war game
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 5:43 PM ET
I keep reading this "off his game"

Did you actually watch the game ?

Connor was absolutely dominant. Kid had a goal and apple and was dangerous all night long.
If he not already the best player in the world, it won't be long till he's that by a country mile.

The flyers winning the game (and congrats on it) wasn't because manning got him off his game. It's because the oilers gave up 6 goals.


If that's Mcdavid off his game, then the rest of the league is totally fuked when he gets back on his game.


I also read some posts saying Connor shoulda fought manning. Is that a joke?
Connor Mcdavid is gonna drop mitts with Brandon no name plug manning ?
How in any way is this a wise move from the oilers side

- HB77



MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 5:54 PM ET
A good rule of thumb is if a player agrees on a 3 year contract, he probably from a negotiating standpoint was asking for another year or so, the team asking for a year less, and they met in the middle or the player acquiesced to the team's offer. Unless your Garth Snow, to which you just say "OK" to any initial player offer.

There were rumors Florida wanted Raffl near the deadline and the ask was 2 2nds, and then he was signed shortly after, so there was definitely some stuff going on behind the scenes. Regardless, my only point was that a player like Raffl is someone I'd like to have for another cost effective year or two over some lesser players getting more.

- Mononoke


I agree, I'd love to have Raffl signed for longer, but there's a difference in the negotations for a free agent on the open market, verses signing your own free agent who hasn't hit the open market yet. A good rule of thumb also is that a player would like to have a chance on a bigger deal at some point. It's different for every player, and there is no set rule of thumb.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 9 @ 5:57 PM ET
After Draisaitl scored the first goal last night I blamed you.

I want you to know that.


- Marc D


Haha, you know you want him too.

Hextall needs to get it done before he gets better and more expensive.

Trade them Manning.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 9 @ 6:01 PM ET
How was more games does AMac need to play to become expansion eligible?
- jmatchett383


Zero. He didn't need to play any games to be eligible
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Dec 9 @ 6:20 PM ET
Zero. He didn't need to play any games to be eligible
- Jsaquella


I bet he rides in the back of the plane.
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 9 @ 6:27 PM ET
I bet he rides in the back of the plane.
- flyer_nutter


He actually sits on Holmgren's lap up front
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 9 @ 7:11 PM ET
Zero. He didn't need to play any games to be eligible
- Jsaquella


You know what I meant. To reach 70/40
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 9 @ 8:43 PM ET
Pascal Laberge came back the other night for the second time after he wasn't feeling well from that vicious hit 6 or so weeks ago. Well, tonight, he faced off against Moncton for the first time since his hit (a Moncton player was the one who made the initial hit).

Well, a different Moncton player -- another mucker -- was given a major and game misconduct tonight for another hit on Laberge. He fought the player after, but Pascal has not returned to the game.

This makes me sick.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 8:46 PM ET
Pascal Laberge came back the other night for the second time after he wasn't feeling well from that vicious hit 6 or so weeks ago. Well, tonight, he faced off against Moncton for the first time since his hit (a Moncton player was the one who made the initial hit).

Well, a different Moncton player -- another mucker -- was given a major and game misconduct tonight for another hit on Laberge. He fought the player after, but Pascal has not returned to the game.

This makes me sick.

- Mononoke


Wow, sucks to hear that.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 8:46 PM ET

- jmatchett383


Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 9 @ 9:14 PM ET
Pascal Laberge came back the other night for the second time after he wasn't feeling well from that vicious hit 6 or so weeks ago. Well, tonight, he faced off against Moncton for the first time since his hit (a Moncton player was the one who made the initial hit).

Well, a different Moncton player -- another mucker -- was given a major and game misconduct tonight for another hit on Laberge. He fought the player after, but Pascal has not returned to the game.

This makes me sick.

- Mononoke

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 9 @ 9:18 PM ET
From what I understand, McDavid's actions the game last night were not in reaction to the hit last year, but in reaction to Manning chirping him about the hit. It reaching the point of being overblown. All it was is a building rivalry between two players. Something that happens all the time in the NHL. Its crazy all this talk of McDavid being thrown off his game.
- MJL

I disagree man. He should of dismissed the question.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 9 @ 9:30 PM ET
So, my #fancymath says the Flyers are at the 35.37% mark of the season. As of now, who are your 7/3/1 expansion protected slots?

Giroux
Voracek
Couturier
Schenn*
Simmonds
Raffl
Cousins

Ghost
Gudas
Manning

Stolarz

*Note on Schenn - He's hard to figure out. If he's left unprotected, he'll be taken for sure. However, if they Flyers are really done with him, I'd rather they try to trade him before the ED and protect a guy like Laughton/Leier/Lyubimov. So, for right now, he keeps a spot.

Also, this assumes they somehow have a goalie signed that they're willing to expose (Emery much?).

- jmatchett383


Giroux
Voracek
Simmonds
Couturier
Schenn
Raffl
Weise

Gostisbehere
Gudas
Manning

Stolarz

Your picks are no brainers, although I choose Weise over Cousins because I think both are a toss up. If I'm the GM of Vegas, I would want the experienced forward over the boarder line kid that nobody knows what he is yet.

As everyone knows, I'm a Schenn supporter. I do believe he needs to give more. At the same time, he's safe due to being a tradable asset.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 9 @ 9:36 PM ET
How was more games does AMac need to play to become expansion eligible?
- jmatchett383



he is already eligible. each team must have one dman under contract for 2017-2018 to be exposed. he needs 19 more to be considered that dman.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 9 @ 9:41 PM ET
Giroux
Voracek
Simmonds
Couturier
Schenn
Raffl
Weise

Gostisbehere
Gudas
Manning

Stolarz

Your picks are no brainers, although I choose Weise over Cousins because I think both are a toss up. If I'm the GM of Vegas, I would want the experienced forward over the boarder line kid that nobody knows what he is yet.

As everyone knows, I'm a Schenn supporter. I do believe he needs to give more. At the same time, he's safe due to being a tradable asset.

- SuperSchennBros



Vegas will have to choose some "prospects" one would think. they aren't going to select 30 NHL players with contracts over 950K and who would require contracts being buried. I leave Weise exposed. if they take him so be it. Honestly if I am choosing between say Weise, one of Laughton or Cousins, Leier and Stolarz I would be choosing one of the kids
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 9 @ 9:48 PM ET
Vegas will have to choose some "prospects" one would think. they aren't going to select 30 NHL players with contracts over 950K and who would require contracts being buried. I leave Weise exposed. if they take him so be it. Honestly if I am choosing between say Weise, one of Laughton or Cousins, Leier and Stolarz I would be choosing one of the kids
- nastyflyergirl



Absolutely
Mononoke
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I'd do anything to get you humans out of my forest!
Joined: 07.19.2015

Dec 9 @ 9:52 PM ET
I think if Weise is exposed, he's the guy taken. A sub 30 vet with cheap affordable term (3 years) who can play in your middle 6 has a ton of value to an expansion team. It isn't easy to get and keep guys those first few seasons. Add in the "grit" and "size" factor which is said to play a big part in the owner's vision, and it makes sense to me.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 9 @ 10:01 PM ET
Vegas will have to choose some "prospects" one would think. they aren't going to select 30 NHL players with contracts over 950K and who would require contracts being buried. I leave Weise exposed. if they take him so be it. Honestly if I am choosing between say Weise, one of Laughton or Cousins, Leier and Stolarz I would be choosing one of the kids
- nastyflyergirl


I don't care if one of Laughton or Cousins go. That's just me though. At this point I don't know why Vegas would take Leier.

I actually would sign Mason and use the last spot for Mason.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 9 @ 10:26 PM ET
Bob Rotruck ‏@BobRotruck 5m5 minutes ago
Gordon: "We don't track shot attempts including ones that are blocked or missed net but those were some of our best chances."

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 9 @ 10:41 PM ET
I think if Weise is exposed, he's the guy taken. A sub 30 vet with cheap affordable term (3 years) who can play in your middle 6 has a ton of value to an expansion team. It isn't easy to get and keep guys those first few seasons. Add in the "grit" and "size" factor which is said to play a big part in the owner's vision, and it makes sense to me.
- Mononoke


I could see it. He's also a guy who has had some decent production in his career, who might even be a 2nd liner on an expansion team.

Of course, they may decide that a kid is a more beneficial pick long term. I wouldn't be amazed if Hextall made a deal involving a guy like Laughton to avoid potentially losing him for nothing, especially if he remains a tweener.
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