they should wait until they are allowed to negotiate with Gudbranson to see what he is demanding to determine which dman to move. I wanted JB to bring in some grit on d but with Tryamkin looking steady, he might be able to provide enough physicality that we could move Guddy.

I'm not sure how that would look, moving Guddy, but if it was a good return, it should be considered.
- hillbillydeluxe

What would be a good return in your mind?

Guddy makes some pretty egregious mistakes.. I still think every team needs a physical Canadian leader in the defensive group, and we don't have one in the pipeline.

If you can get EG for the Tanev rate I think you sign him asap.

Gudbranson is called upon to play the type of game where you're gonna take injuries every so often. My worry with Tanev isn't in the immediate, it's more that I think he'll take more and more injuries over the next several years. The punishment he's had to take in the Pacific division playing hard minutes isn't going to stop anytime soon.
- NorthNuck

Yep, and in the playoffs Tanev gets CRUSHED over and over... It's hard to watch.

Yeah, would be interesting to know what their value is today. If we hear that JB is shopping any of them around though everyone would think he's crazy
- NorthNuck

was just thinking of negotiations, we want x player for Tanev and the other team comes back with, we are willing to do y player for Tryamkin.

I hope JB isn't pedaling either.

Yep, and in the playoffs Tanev gets CRUSHED over and over... It's hard to watch.
- VIRTBOHUT

Tanev looked great in the WHC as it's basically a no hit tourney.

Out here in the west...not so much.

was just thinking of negotiations, we want x player for Tanev and the other team comes back with, we are willing to do y player for Tryamkin.

I hope JB isn't pedaling either.
- hillbillydeluxe

I would be pretty stoked if JB could swing a deal for Duchene or Landeskog, Tanev's the only Dman I could see being a part of that deal.

What would be a good return in your mind?

Guddy makes some pretty egregious mistakes.. I still think every team needs a physical Canadian leader in the defensive group, and we don't have one in the pipeline.

If you can get EG for the Tanev rate I think you sign him asap.
- VIRTBOHUT

I was thinking, if you looked at what it cost to acquire Guddy, it would have to be better than a late 1st round pick and a 2nd rounder.

if it was a 1 for 1, I hope it was someone that could score 20 and be expected to contribute around 50 points or so.

I think they should move Gudbranson if they can't sign him to a relatively low cap hit. He looks like he is going to be a bottom pairing Dman moving forward if they have Tanev/Stecher on the right side.
- belcherbd

Are you kidding me? This is Jim Benning we're talking about. He'll probably get between five and six million just because Benning made the move and he wants to reinforce his position on the masses.

http://www.thehockeynews....be-trade-deadline-targets

http://www.thehockeynews....be-trade-deadline-targets


- boonerbuck

You know you are reaching when Botchford is your source....

http://www.thehockeynews....be-trade-deadline-targets


- boonerbuck

Which two teams could take that hit?

wow...

Are you kidding me? This is Jim Benning we're talking about. He'll probably get between five and six million just because Benning made the move and he wants to reinforce his position on the masses.
- Pacificgem

Perhaps, I hope not. He did move on from Bonino, Clendening and Vey when he realized they were not a fit so its not impossible.

Perhaps, I hope not. He did move on from Bonino, Clendening and Vey when he realized they were not a fit so its not impossible.
- belcherbd

waiting for the future town hall when someone asks about Sbisa and JB tells them he won't trade him and has turned down offers..

waiting for the future town hall when someone asks about Sbisa and JB tells them he won't trade him and has turned down offers..
- hillbillydeluxe

will be a great topic for the season ticket holders meeting if all 4 show up.

Tanev looked great in the WHC as it's basically a no hit tourney.

Out here in the west...not so much.
- LordHumungous

So someone in the EASt will pay out the A** for his services.

waiting for the future town hall when someone asks about Sbisa and JB tells them he won't trade him and has turned down offers..
- hillbillydeluxe

I think he should be trying to flog Sutter off on Montreal. It would hurt us in the short term but considering we have Chaput now we could probably tread water.....

Sutter's NTC doesn't kick in until 2019 anyways so he would have to ask him to waive.

So someone in the EASt will pay out the A** for his services.
- manvanfan

agreed they will.

Detroit a perfect fit.

agreed they will.

Detroit a perfect fit.
- LordHumungous

Hey how come no mention that Lukas Jasek is on the Roster for the Czech Team at World Juniors?

So someone in the EASt will pay out the A** for his services.
- manvanfan

I don't really want to get into the whole hitting thus a good player conversation again but the idea that the West has more hitting doesn't hold water...

11 of top 15 hitting on the teams over the past 3 seasons are from East.

The west isn't considered tougher to play in because there is more hitting but because most teams play defense.

I think they should move Gudbranson if they can't sign him to a relatively low cap hit. He looks like he is going to be a bottom pairing Dman moving forward if they have Tanev/Stecher on the right side.
- belcherbd

Who's market value is higher? If you are going to create a depth hole you would want the biggest return right? Giving up on Guddy so soon after trading for him may cause problems. Is there another like him in the system? Not really. Pedan comes close sort of but not quite. As for Tanev he's peeked. We got OJ and Brisbois coming up who play a similar game with different upsides to Tanev. But I don't think JB is trading anyone one of them.

Hey how come no mention that Lukas Jasek is on the Roster for the Czech Team at World Juniors?
- manvanfan

dunno, never heard that. but good news for him. I thought he showed well playing junior but hasn't produced much when moving up to the senior club (just going by the stats, and he is only getting limited opportunity.

Perhaps, I hope not. He did move on from Bonino, Clendening and Vey when he realized they were not a fit so its not impossible.
- belcherbd

Gudbranson was is a bit more of a higherend transaction, but you're right, he did move quickly to rid himself of players that didn't work.

I think it was mentioned yesterday, he could've signed a ufa defenceman and kept McCann and the second round pick. Disappointing.

What would be a good return in your mind?

Guddy makes some pretty egregious mistakes.. I still think every team needs a physical Canadian leader in the defensive group, and we don't have one in the pipeline.

If you can get EG for the Tanev rate I think you sign him asap.
- VIRTBOHUT

Yeah. Doubt that discount is happening. Florida would have signed him and not traded him.

Yep, and in the playoffs Tanev gets CRUSHED over and over... It's hard to watch.
- VIRTBOHUT

So there are merits to keeping Guddy. I don't see either leaving now.

Dan Shorthouse

GM Jim Benning will be first int guest 2nite. We'll chat Larsen, NTC's, Virtanen's progress and other fun stuff.

Should be enlightening

was just thinking of negotiations, we want x player for Tanev and the other team comes back with, we are willing to do y player for Tryamkin.

I hope JB isn't pedaling either.
- hillbillydeluxe

I don't think he is for several reasons. Mostly now injury woes on D. He's closer to getting forward help back with Rodin and Hanson on the mend.