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Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 7 @ 1:30 PM ET
Why? Right now we poised to lose Marincin or Leivo in the expansion draft and have a chance to sign Shattenkirk in the off season. Even with a top 4 RHD added to our roster we are not a contender and are in no hurry this season.

If we trade JVR+++ for a young potential top 2 RHD then we have to expose Carrick or Brown and weaken our top 6 forwards. I don't want to have our rookies over stressed about performing well without support as dumping JVR means dressing Holland or Michalek. It isn't good enough anyway so why hurry.

Stand pat, get a better pick and potentially get that defenseman we need WITHOUT losing a forward. Worse case we are in the playoff race then it won't be hard to move Corrado and a 2nd and 3rd for a rental like Wideman.

- Steven_Dean


If we move jvr for a dman, we can go 4/4 protection. We shouldn’t lose a forward of consequence, and we have the depth to lose a forward anyways.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 7 @ 1:30 PM ET
That Oilers fan is suffering from Chiarelli Shock hard...I know the pain brother. I just don't know what it's like to feel it after 4 1st overalls, one of which was McDavid.
- RickJames77

Think about this...they were a lucky bounce from Matthews/Laine.

Jesus
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Dec 7 @ 1:31 PM ET
The arbitrator ruled there was no evidence Cowen was unfit when the Maple Leafs bought him out.
Lucas


Bottom line

- nbboy



Woohoo. Huge advantage for the Leafs in the trade market.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Dec 7 @ 1:32 PM ET
Think about this...they were a lucky bounce from Matthews/Laine.

Jesus

- AdamFrench


Think about this.....bah, probably best I don't post that.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 7 @ 1:34 PM ET
Think about this...they were a lucky bounce from Matthews/Laine.

Jesus

- AdamFrench


Vancouver was as well.

Vancouver would be in a completely different mindset right now.

Although I wouldn't doubt Benning completely (frank)ing it up and trading the pick to Arizona for Dvorak Strome and a mid first.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 7 @ 1:35 PM ET
If we move jvr for a dman, we can go 4/4 protection. We shouldn’t lose a forward of consequence, and we have the depth to lose a forward anyways.
- Tumbleweed


The expansion draft is irrelevant to the Leafs this year.

So what if we lose a Rychel. Who the (frank) cares.
jimi james
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere Between, NB
Joined: 07.17.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:35 PM ET
Glad you are happy with everything.
Congrats on the 14-14 record

- senstroll

Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Dec 7 @ 1:35 PM ET
If we move jvr for a dman, we can go 4/4 protection. We shouldn’t lose a forward of consequence, and we have the depth to lose a forward anyways.
- Tumbleweed



Brown or Komarov or Bozak isn't consequence? If it isn't then why not forgo ALL that, lose Leivo, and trade one of the above for a 2nd or more. Win-win. Which becomes a bigger win if we can sign a RHD FA. Now we have JVR that can be used for a 1st+.

Not trading for a defenseman now gives us at best an extra top 6F and an extra top 9F or at worse a 1st, 2nd+.

It is rushed moves and poor asset management that put us in this cluster to begin with. Remember Toskala and Raycroft? Those rushed deals murdered us.
zazzle
Joined: 01.19.2013

Dec 7 @ 1:35 PM ET
Wow




Oh, and WTF?

- bobbyisno1



I was thinking that he was posting in the wrong thread.

more hatred for things being Toronto.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Dec 7 @ 1:36 PM ET
Brown or Komarov or Bozak isn't consequence? If it isn't then why not forgo ALL that, lose Leivo, and trade one of the above for a 2nd or more. Win-win. Which becomes a bigger win if we can sign a RHD FA. Now we have JVR that can be used for a 1st+.

Not trading for a defenseman now gives us at best an extra top 6F and an extra top 9F or at worse a 1st, 2nd+.

It is rushed moves and poor asset management that put us in this cluster to begin with. Remember Toskala and Raycroft? Those rushed deals murdered us.

- Steven_Dean


I "member"
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 7 @ 1:37 PM ET
crazy play, couldn't believe all the skates around the guys head after....wild
- Lucas.Neilson


No kidding! Good on Markstrom though, he stepped in right away to try and block the guys in the scrum from hurting Larsen.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:37 PM ET
I was thinking that he was posting in the wrong thread.

more hatred for things being Toronto.

- zazzle

He possted in the right thread, he insults The Leafs in the last sentence.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 7 @ 1:38 PM ET
The expansion draft is irrelevant to the Leafs this year.

So what if we lose a Rychel. Who the (frank) cares.

- Santo_44


Bruce.

Probably Kerby also
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Dec 7 @ 1:38 PM ET
I "member"
- mykokes



RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Dec 7 @ 1:41 PM ET
look at Eks main blog....next up, Chiarelli trades his 3rd 1st overall pick, McDavid, to the Pens for Crosby and Poulliot in an effort to regenerate profits on the sale of Crosby jerseys after a market saturated of McDavids.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:42 PM ET
Have a question for u guys and dont play the homer card as i'm having a friendly debate with an isles buddy,

Take Tavares out of equation and the obvious Dmen your team craves,

Would u trade JVR for any other islander F on team? if so, why or why not, thx
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:43 PM ET
I "member"
- mykokes

finale tonight
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 7 @ 1:44 PM ET
look at Eks main blog....next up, Chiarelli trades his 3rd 1st overall pick, McDavid, to the Pens for Crosby and Poulliot in an effort to regenerate profits on the sale of Crosby jerseys after a market saturated of McDavids.
- RickJames77

Well that's just crazy - jersey sales are split evenly amongst all teams.

Chiarelli really needs to do his homework.
bobbyisno1
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm excited to see that
Joined: 08.28.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:44 PM ET
Have a question for u guys and dont play the homer card as i'm having a friendly debate with an isles buddy,

Take Tavares out of equation and the obvious Dmen your team craves,

Would u trade JVR for any other islander F on team? if so, why or why not, thx

- Ur Not Me

We should ask Willie, he'll know....
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Dec 7 @ 1:44 PM ET
Have a question for u guys and dont play the homer card as i'm having a friendly debate with an isles buddy,

Take Tavares out of equation and the obvious Dmen your team craves,

Would u trade JVR for any other islander F on team? if so, why or why not, thx

- Ur Not Me

No, because we need to parlay him into a defenseman.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Dec 7 @ 1:44 PM ET
Have a question for u guys and dont play the homer card as i'm having a friendly debate with an isles buddy,

Take Tavares out of equation and the obvious Dmen your team craves,

Would u trade JVR for any other islander F on team? if so, why or why not, thx

- Ur Not Me


Is it a 1 for 1 hockey trade ie. no picks or salary considerations?
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:45 PM ET
Have a question for u guys and dont play the homer card as i'm having a friendly debate with an isles buddy,

Take Tavares out of equation and the obvious Dmen your team craves,

Would u trade JVR for any other islander F on team? if so, why or why not, thx

- Ur Not Me

No, JVR can be used for a D, they aren't easy to get, and he maybe or only chance outside of drafting one to get one.
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Dec 7 @ 1:45 PM ET
look at Eks main blog....next up, Chiarelli trades his 3rd 1st overall pick, McDavid, to the Pens for Crosby and Poulliot in an effort to regenerate profits on the sale of Crosby jerseys after a market saturated of McDavids.
- RickJames77



That's rediculous, no way that works cap wise. Pens will have to take back Fayne and Ference too.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:45 PM ET
We should ask Willie, he'll know....
- bobbyisno1



Willie the baboon? Harambe cousin...?
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: We’re Too Old, Boston
Joined: 04.03.2013

Dec 7 @ 1:46 PM ET
Well that's just crazy - jersey sales are split evenly amongst all teams.

Chiarelli really needs to do his homework.

- Atomic Wedgie

Shhh you don't need to tell him that. Just slip him a 3rd and all will be good.
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