Lucas.

An OTL isn't a tie like in the old standings, it's still a loss. 7 teams in the eastern conference are below .500. Not sure why people choose to perceive an OTL as a tie. It stands for OVER TIME LOSS. The key word being loss.

Your perceiving the standings exactly the way the NHL wants you to. Falsely. Is there any other reputable professional sport that has some games awarding more points than others? The NHL's points system is a joke & designed to create the effect as you perceive it & give a false hope your team is still in the playoff hunt.

Either make all games worth 3 points or bring back ties. If still tied after OT drop the shootout & take the tie or award 3 points for a regulation win not this aberration. I have seen numerous people run the standings based on 3 for a regulation win. It alters the standings nominally. Try running it with tie's. Not easy to do as you need to go back & review ever game to see who won a game after an OT win getting 2 points as opposed to 1.

That said the NHL is never bringing back ties but this ridiculous points system needs to change.

Oh poop, I can't believe we are trading Matthews.
- Atomic Wedgie

wouldn't be surprised to see this headline in the Sun's sport section later this week.

Lucas.

An OTL isn't a tie like in the old standings, it's still a loss. 7 teams in the eastern conference are below .500. Not sure why people choose to perceive an OTL as a tie. It stands for OVER TIME LOSS. The key word being loss.

Your perceiving the standings exactly the way the NHL wants you to. Falsely. Is there any other reputable professional sport that has some games awarding more points than others? The NHL's points system is a joke & designed to create the effect as you perceive it & give a false hope your team is still in the playoff hunt.

Either make all games worth 3 points or bring back ties. If still tied after OT drop the shootout & take the tie or award 3 points for a regulation win not this aberration. I have seen numerous people run the standings based on 3 for a regulation win. It alters the standings nominally. Try running it with tie's. Not easy to do as you need to go back & review ever game to see who won a game after an OT win getting 2 points as opposed to 1.

That said the NHL is never bringing back ties but this ridiculous points system needs to change.
- striker777

If you lose the game, you get no points.

If you are tied at the end of regulation, you get a point (just like before the NHL had regular season OT).

Not really hard to understand why some people (myself included) see it as closer to a tie than a loss.

tl/dr: you get a point for an OTL. You don't if you lose in regulation.

Lucas.

An OTL isn't a tie like in the old standings, it's still a loss. 7 teams in the eastern conference are below .500. Not sure why people choose to perceive an OTL as a tie. It stands for OVER TIME LOSS. The key word being loss.

Your perceiving the standings exactly the way the NHL wants you to. Falsely. Is there any other reputable professional sport that has some games awarding more points than others? The NHL's points system is a joke & designed to create the effect as you perceive it & give a false hope your team is still in the playoff hunt.

Either make all games worth 3 points or bring back ties. If still tied after OT drop the shootout & take the tie or award 3 points for a regulation win not this aberration. I have seen numerous people run the standings based on 3 for a regulation win. It alters the standings nominally. Try running it with tie's. Not easy to do as you need to go back & review ever game to see who won a game after an OT win getting 2 points as opposed to 1.

That said the NHL is never bringing back ties but this ridiculous points system needs to change.
- striker777

points my good man,

if your team has as many points or more points than games played you are a .500 team when it comes to points (which are what you need to get into the playoffs).

don't hate, I didn't set it up!

Lucas.

An OTL isn't a tie like in the old standings, it's still a loss. 7 teams in the eastern conference are below .500. Not sure why people choose to perceive an OTL as a tie. It stands for OVER TIME LOSS. The key word being loss.

Your perceiving the standings exactly the way the NHL wants you to. Falsely. Is there any other reputable professional sport that has some games awarding more points than others? The NHL's points system is a joke & designed to create the effect as you perceive it & give a false hope your team is still in the playoff hunt.

Either make all games worth 3 points or bring back ties. If still tied after OT drop the shootout & take the tie or award 3 points for a regulation win not this aberration. I have seen numerous people run the standings based on 3 for a regulation win. It alters the standings nominally. Try running it with tie's. Not easy to do as you need to go back & review ever game to see who won a game after an OT win getting 2 points as opposed to 1.

That said the NHL is never bringing back ties but this ridiculous points system needs to change.
- striker777

It's not perceived if you're still in the hunt and it's kind of boring if 3/4 of the league are out of the playoffs by Xmas.

If you lose the game, you get no points.

If you are tied at the end of regulation, you get a point (just like before the NHL had regular season OT).

Not really hard to understand why some people (myself included) see it as closer to a tie than a loss.

tl/dr: you get a point for an OTL. You don't if you lose in regulation.
- Atomic Wedgie

I never said I love or hate how it's setup, but I still stand pat that if your team has as many points as games played you are a .500 team, if other disagree I'm sorry but that's how I see it.

points my good man,

if your team has as many points or more points than games played you are a .500 team when it comes to points (which are what you need to get into the playoffs).

don't hate, I didn't set it up!
- Lucas.Neilson

I think he's asking you to make wins worth 3 points.

Get it done already, jeez.

And we lost the prettiest man alive to Robidas Island.
- AdamFrench

What are you talking about man? I didn't go anywhere.

Lucas.

An OTL isn't a tie like in the old standings, it's still a loss. 7 teams in the eastern conference are below .500. Not sure why people choose to perceive an OTL as a tie. It stands for OVER TIME LOSS. The key word being loss.

Your perceiving the standings exactly the way the NHL wants you to. Falsely. Is there any other reputable professional sport that has some games awarding more points than others? The NHL's points system is a joke & designed to create the effect as you perceive it & give a false hope your team is still in the playoff hunt.

Either make all games worth 3 points or bring back ties. If still tied after OT drop the shootout & take the tie or award 3 points for a regulation win not this aberration. I have seen numerous people run the standings based on 3 for a regulation win. It alters the standings nominally. Try running it with tie's. Not easy to do as you need to go back & review ever game to see who won a game after an OT win getting 2 points as opposed to 1.

That said the NHL is never bringing back ties but this ridiculous points system needs to change.
- striker777

You each get a point for a tie and then play a mini-game for an extra point. Why is this so (frank)ing hard to understand?

It appears that most people who argue against the point system actually have a beef with the terminology rather than the concept itself, because adding "Win" and "Loss" confuses them.

I think he's asking you to make wins worth 3 points.

Get it done already, jeez.
- TheMussel

I'll start working on a change.org petition to have Lucas removed from HB if he can't change the NHL's point system. To be fair, we will give him to the end of the day today before we send out the lynching party.

I think he's asking you to make wins worth 3 points.

Get it done already, jeez.
- TheMussel

I'd love to see what soccer now does:

3 points for a win.

1 point for a tie.

0 points for a loss.

Huge incentive to play for the win.

As it stands now, if the game is tied with 10 minutes left, no hockey team tries for the win.

But of course we all know the NHL will never, ever go for this system. And I can't say I blame them; the current system keeps teams in the playoff hunt for much, much longer.

It's all about the Benjamins.

I'll start working on a change.org petition to have Lucas removed from HB if he can't change the NHL's point system. To be fair, we will give him to the end of the day today before we send out the lynching party.
- markmark

*scrambles for bettman's email address*

[email][email protected][/email]

I'd love to see what soccer now does:

3 points for a win.

1 point for a tie.

0 points for a loss.

Huge incentive to play for the win.

As it stands now, if the game is tied with 10 minutes left, no hockey team tries for the win.

But of course we all know the NHL will never, ever go for this system. And I can't say I blame them; the current system keeps teams in the playoff hunt for much, much longer.

It's all about the Benjamins.
- Atomic Wedgie

I would love it too, as long as the NHL actually played to a tie.

Awarding more points for a skills competition hurts enough as it is.

I'd love to see what soccer now does:

3 points for a win.

1 point for a tie.

0 points for a loss.

Huge incentive to play for the win.

As it stands now, if the game is tied with 10 minutes left, no hockey team tries for the win.

But of course we all know the NHL will never, ever go for this system. And I can't say I blame them; the current system keeps teams in the playoff hunt for much, much longer.

It's all about the Benjamins.
- Atomic Wedgie

ESPECIALLY when it's East v West teams.

I'd love to see what soccer now does:

3 points for a win.

1 point for a tie.

0 points for a loss.

Huge incentive to play for the win.

As it stands now, if the game is tied with 10 minutes left, no hockey team tries for the win.

But of course we all know the NHL will never, ever go for this system. And I can't say I blame them; the current system keeps teams in the playoff hunt for much, much longer.

It's all about the Benjamins.
- Atomic Wedgie

I must say,

to reduce the shootouts and have OT winners, I love the 3 on 3...very exciting hockey!!

I'd love to see what soccer now does:

3 points for a win.

1 point for a tie.

0 points for a loss.

Huge incentive to play for the win.

As it stands now, if the game is tied with 10 minutes left, no hockey team tries for the win.

But of course we all know the NHL will never, ever go for this system. And I can't say I blame them; the current system keeps teams in the playoff hunt for much, much longer.

It's all about the Benjamins.
- Atomic Wedgie

Pardon my French, but vat iz diss?

Pardon my French, but vat iz diss?
- Not_Yan

points my good man,

if your team has as many points or more points than games played you are a .500 team when it comes to points (which are what you need to get into the playoffs).

don't hate, I didn't set it up!
- Lucas.Neilson

- Atomic Wedgie

show me the money!

Pardon my French, but vat iz diss?
- Not_Yan

Ben Franklins equals dollars

Yes. Let's please wait until the usual second half collapse either happens or doesn't before they deal the first.
- AdamFrench

exactly....

oh wait... do mean the Leads 2nd half collapse ... or the Canucks.... cause I'd be okay with

Tanev, Tryamkin, Virtanen + Van 1st 2017 for

JvR, Bozak, Polak & Hunwick


'cause you know with those additions the Canucks would be Cup contenders again

- Atomic Wedgie

wait... the 100 doesn't have a picture of Trump... so its not real

Ah, gotcha! Didn't know the expression before.
Thank you.

How bad must Cowan be if a team like the Leafs that need a big defenseman badly won't even give him a sniff?
- Rang

Cowan is a big defenseman... who's excellent when movement in any direction is not required.... makes Phaneuf look quick.

wait... the 100 doesn't have a picture of Trump... so its not real
- BorjeFan4Ever