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Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Dec 7 @ 1:58 PM ET
Sure, if we can’t move bozak, then I’d be willing to roll the dice on LV taking bozak with only one year left on his deal. Worst case, would clear up $4M of salary…which we can use to replace bozak on the ufa market.

Protection spots are limited across the leagues. Realistically, trades for guys that need protection just for picks are pretty much going to dry up.

Toskala and raycroft was poor talent assessment combined with trading from an area of weakness. Has trading for Andersen caused another cluster (frank) too?

- Tumbleweed



Why are we forcefully giving up Bozak? We are freeing up like $8M in cap from Michalek, Laich, & Greening. Why do we NEED that $4M? That's just stupid considering Bozak is FOURTH on our team in points.

Andersen was a starting goalie in Anaheim. Toskala and Raycroft we backups and not amazing ones at the time at that. While a lot of it was talent assessment that is a risk in any trade. Asset management is another important spot. We gave up two EXTRA picks for a STARTING goalie in Andersen. For Toskala we gave up our two BEST picks and he was only a backup. Heck San Jose flipped those two picks for Couture's pick which we could have done but that isn't the point lol.

We finally have a great thing going and while a JVR+++ for a top line RHD can be the final move we make to become a consistent cup contender it can also be the thing that slows our rebuild a year or two. No need to rush anymore.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 7 @ 2:01 PM ET
That's the answer though.
- Cherry--Skoal

mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Dec 7 @ 2:01 PM ET
Holy crap...there's two Foote's in Kelowna!

And one is actually named Nolan! (now i feel bad when I said a poster on here had the name wrong, though, I still think he was talking about Cal.)

I wonder if they'll be the WHL version of the Gudbranson's.

Definitely not the WHL version of the Subbans.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Dec 7 @ 2:02 PM ET
Why are we forcefully giving up Bozak? We are freeing up like $8M in cap from Michalek, Laich, & Greening. Why do we NEED that $4M? That's just stupid considering Bozak is FOURTH on our team in points.

Andersen was a starting goalie in Anaheim. Toskala and Raycroft we backups and not amazing ones at the time at that. While a lot of it was talent assessment that is a risk in any trade. Asset management is another important spot. We gave up two EXTRA picks for a STARTING goalie in Andersen. For Toskala we gave up our two BEST picks and he was only a backup. Heck San Jose flipped those two picks for Couture's pick which we could have done but that isn't the point lol.

We finally have a great thing going and while a JVR+++ for a top line RHD can be the final move we make to become a consistent cup contender it can also be the thing that slows our rebuild a year or two. No need to rush anymore.

- Steven_Dean


I like you. A lot. Frenchie has some competition for my affections.
Steven_Dean
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: KL
Joined: 07.10.2012

Dec 7 @ 2:05 PM ET
I like you. A lot. Frenchie has some competition for my affections.
- mykokes



Hahaha you seem like a good bloke.

Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 7 @ 2:09 PM ET
Why are we forcefully giving up Bozak? We are freeing up like $8M in cap from Michalek, Laich, & Greening. Why do we NEED that $4M? That's just stupid considering Bozak is FOURTH on our team in points.

Andersen was a starting goalie in Anaheim. Toskala and Raycroft we backups and not amazing ones at the time at that. While a lot of it was talent assessment that is a risk in any trade. Asset management is another important spot. We gave up two EXTRA picks for a STARTING goalie in Andersen. For Toskala we gave up our two BEST picks and he was only a backup. Heck San Jose flipped those two picks for Couture's pick which we could have done but that isn't the point lol.

We finally have a great thing going and while a JVR+++ for a top line RHD can be the final move we make to become a consistent cup contender it can also be the thing that slows our rebuild a year or two. No need to rush anymore.

- Steven_Dean


Bozak is not in the future. Mathews/nylander/kadri are the future top 3 centers.

Cap space is always valuable. Look what AZ did this past year trading cap space for prospects.

Agreed on the goalies. Things are completely different now. Point is making trades don't mean the rebuild is off track.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 7 @ 2:13 PM ET
lums...he sucks. All the Strome clan sucks.
- AdamFrench


Strome >>> French
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 7 @ 2:16 PM ET
Why are we forcefully giving up Bozak? We are freeing up like $8M in cap from Michalek, Laich, & Greening. Why do we NEED that $4M? That's just stupid considering Bozak is FOURTH on our team in points.

Andersen was a starting goalie in Anaheim. Toskala and Raycroft we backups and not amazing ones at the time at that. While a lot of it was talent assessment that is a risk in any trade. Asset management is another important spot. We gave up two EXTRA picks for a STARTING goalie in Andersen. For Toskala we gave up our two BEST picks and he was only a backup. Heck San Jose flipped those two picks for Couture's pick which we could have done but that isn't the point lol.

We finally have a great thing going and while a JVR+++ for a top line RHD can be the final move we make to become a consistent cup contender it can also be the thing that slows our rebuild a year or two. No need to rush anymore.

- Steven_Dean


Or it could be just the right time to cash in on a guy who while serviceable now, will probably not be on the team a few years from now regardless
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Dec 7 @ 2:16 PM ET
Bozak is not in the future. Mathews/nylander/kadri are the future top 3 centers.

Cap space is always valuable. Look what AZ did this past year trading cap space for prospects.

Agreed on the goalies. Things are completely different now. Point is making trades don't mean the rebuild is off track.

- Tumbleweed


But we will probably be in a much better position both draft pick wise and going forward if we wait for an opportunity to arise, than trying to force a trade. I think that's where he's going with this.
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Dec 7 @ 2:18 PM ET
Have a question for u guys and dont play the homer card as i'm having a friendly debate with an isles buddy,

Take Tavares out of equation and the obvious Dmen your team craves,

Would u trade JVR for any other islander F on team? if so, why or why not, thx

- Ur Not Me


Nope. Because I don't think they are very good.

And (frank) Tavares. He's off to Buffalo
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 7 @ 2:20 PM ET
Strome >>> French
- lumlums

Mark French Head Coach of the Calgary Hitmen disagrees!



Two time Calder Cup winner!
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 7 @ 2:21 PM ET
Mark French Head Coach of the Calgary Hitmen disagrees!



Two time Calder Cup winner!

- AdamFrench


Yes, but I'm talking average Strome vs average French. You bring down the latter side enough to make my statement true.
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:23 PM ET
someone brought up kaberle, and that made me remember janssen.

I just watched all of janssen's nhl fights on youtube

The SOB won everyone of them

except one

vs Darcy Tucker
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Dec 7 @ 2:24 PM ET
I kinda read it
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Dec 7 @ 2:25 PM ET
someone brought up kaberle, and that made me remember janssen.

I just watched all of janssen's nhl fights on youtube

The SOB won everyone of them

except one

vs Darcy Tucker

- Cherry--Skoal



What about the time you beat the (frank) out of me? That was a beat down.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 7 @ 2:25 PM ET
Yes, but I'm talking average Strome vs average French. You bring down the latter side enough to make my statement true.
- lumlums

My cousins the English's will tear down House Strome root and stem.
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Dec 7 @ 2:27 PM ET
My cousins the English's will tear down House Strome root and stem.
- AdamFrench



Hi Adam. Hey, Adam. Adam. Yo? Ad. You there?
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:27 PM ET
What about the time you beat the (frank) out of me? That was a beat down.
- weirdoh

will go down as one of the greatest beat downs of all time.
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Dec 7 @ 2:27 PM ET
anyone remember zack sill
Trevrrrgavo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: London, ON
Joined: 03.28.2013

Dec 7 @ 2:28 PM ET
points my good man,

if your team has as many points or more points than games played you are a .500 team when it comes to points (which are what you need to get into the playoffs).

don't hate, I didn't set it up!

- Lucas.Neilson


I get what your saying but the term .500 refers to winning percentage. Winning 10 of 25 is not .500 regardless of points. either way the system sucks.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Dec 7 @ 2:29 PM ET
anyone remember zack sill
- Cherry--Skoal


I member!
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Dec 7 @ 2:29 PM ET
anyone remember zack sill
- Cherry--Skoal



We sill going on about him?



(YES!!! ZEZEL IT DIDN'T DIE!!!!)
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 7 @ 2:30 PM ET
anyone remember zack sill
- Cherry--Skoal

I Sill member him
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Dec 7 @ 2:31 PM ET
I Sill member him
- AdamFrench



Oh, you are here...and Late. HAHAHA
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Dec 7 @ 2:33 PM ET
Hi Adam. Hey, Adam. Adam. Yo? Ad. You there?
- weirdoh

yo yo yo Kenny G in dah hood ya'll. Coming straight outta Hamilton born and raised being half Native for most of his days.
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