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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 7 @ 1:31 PM ET
except next season...it goes up 500k. essentially, after this year he will make more than his cap hit each season, by increasing amounts
- YuenglingJagr


Really? That's crazy. Makes his contract even more difficult to move.
Konalover
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: HI
Joined: 11.03.2015

Dec 7 @ 1:31 PM ET
Yes.

That is exactly what I said.

- jmatchett383


Good for you! You are truly a brilliant Hockey mind who really thinks outside of nothing!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:34 PM ET
Good for you! You are truly a brilliant Hockey mind who really thinks outside of nothing!
- Konalover


I agree, there is no containing my vast hockey knowledge.

The Flyers need to hit the net more by picking better shooting lanes.

SOLVED!

Next issue: How to let up fewer shots. Topics to be discussed involve positioning as well as stick checking and body checking, with special sessions on how to bench Andrew MacDonald.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:36 PM ET
you're goddamn right, you do.
- hammarby31


Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 7 @ 1:37 PM ET
I agree, there is no containing my vast hockey knowledge.

The Flyers need to hit the net more by picking better shooting lanes.

SOLVED!

Next issue: How to let up fewer shots. Topics to be discussed involve positioning as well as stick checking and body checking, with special sessions on how to bench Andrew MacDonald.

- jmatchett383


Simple - don't let the other team touch the puck. Accomplished with lots of passing to confuse the other team.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:37 PM ET
It was the morning show. Morganti said "his possession numbers aren't good but he has been terrific". Angelo was dismissive of the guy. JFC people
- nastyflyergirl


Is Cataldi further along the evolution chart than Gargano?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:38 PM ET
Really? That's crazy. Makes his contract even more difficult to move.
- Scoob


Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 7 @ 1:40 PM ET

- Just5


lol
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Dec 7 @ 1:41 PM ET
And the best ones always will on occasion. 25 mins a game it happens. But like you said, the recovery especially thinking about that 2 vs 1 in OT. The kid is night and day from a month ago.

Also he has that high motor trait and his game is just so smooth. While a player like Ghost plays in spurts and is volatile. Provorov is that guy that just punches in and out shift after shift with consistency

- Just5


Totally agree. I will say that at the beginning of the year, he was really having some ups and downs, I thought it might be a while before he puts it all together which was not unexpected, and I was ok with. I had zero idea that it would click so fast for him. I hope it continues and he continues to improve as well. He seems to be a special player.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:42 PM ET

- Just5


Holmgren must hate those NHL video games. His trades won't go through.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 7 @ 1:44 PM ET
Homer's still dining out on the Simmonds for Richards trade. I think some other guy was included in it, also.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:45 PM ET
Simple - don't let the other team touch the puck. Accomplished with lots of passing to confuse the other team.
- Scoob


Eliminate faceoffs. If there are no faceoffs, neither team can have the puck. This also solves the issue of the Flyers missing the net, too.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:46 PM ET
Holmgren must hate those NHL video games. His trades won't go through.
- PLindbergh31


Agreed. No way EA would let LA trade Mike Richards for Wayne Simmonds and Brayden Schenn.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:48 PM ET
Agreed. No way EA would let LA trade Mike Richards for Wayne Simmonds and Brayden Schenn.
- jmatchett383


The Kings should fold up shop after making that trade. It's crippled their franchise.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:48 PM ET
How are the Flyers 6th in SOG/game? I thought they missed the net all of the time.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 7 @ 1:49 PM ET
The Kings should fold up shop after making that trade. It's crippled their franchise.
- PLindbergh31


Yep. If the Flyers had simply done the right thing and not made that trade, they'd have 2 Cups in the last half decade. Because everything the Flyers, especially Holmgren, has ever done is wrong.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 7 @ 1:51 PM ET

- Just5


The fire drill clip with Homer and Barkan I think it was still makes me lol..
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 7 @ 1:52 PM ET
Holmgren must hate those NHL video games. His trades won't go through.
- PLindbergh31


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:55 PM ET
Yep. If the Flyers had simply done the right thing and not made that trade, they'd have 2 Cups in the last half decade. Because everything the Flyers, especially Holmgren, has ever done is wrong.
- jmatchett383


Holmgren has been in the NHL since 1976 as a player, coach, executive. How many times has his name been engraved on the Stanley Cup?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 7 @ 1:56 PM ET
Totally agree. I will say that at the beginning of the year, he was really having some ups and downs, I thought it might be a while before he puts it all together which was not unexpected, and I was ok with. I had zero idea that it would click so fast for him. I hope it continues and he continues to improve as well. He seems to be a special player.
- Hextall271



The wild part is that he might not be half the player now, that he will be in 2-3 years. He's an inexperienced 19 year old defenseman playing at a high level in the NHL. Pretty special.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:57 PM ET
Holmgren must hate those NHL video games. His trades won't go through.
- PLindbergh31


Nah he just gets rid of the cap and simulates to july
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Dec 7 @ 1:58 PM ET
Nah he just gets rid of the cap and simulates to july
- Just5


TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Dec 7 @ 1:58 PM ET
I'm sure hockey expert Ike Reese set him straight.
- PLindbergh31

Hey come on. Ike 'I don't believe in dinosaurs' Reese got promoted to the afternoon show.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Dec 7 @ 2:01 PM ET
The Kings should fold up shop after making that trade. It's crippled their franchise.
- PLindbergh31


Because what the trade meant for LA has any relevance here? It was a massive win for the Flyers regardless of what happened with LA. There would've been no cup in Philadelphia with or without Richards. To now have one of, if not the top power forward in the game plus an additional top 6 forward is the result of an incredible trade by Holmgren.

Here are some other assets still with the team as a result of terrible Holmgren trades:

Jake Voracek
Sean Couturier
Shayne Gostisbehere
Steve Mason
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 7 @ 2:03 PM ET
Hey come on. Ike 'I don't believe in dinosaurs' Reese got promoted to the afternoon show.
- TobyFlenderson


How can someone not believe in dinosaurs?
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