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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 7 @ 11:50 AM ET
I see a lot of rumors, not just EK, but other places of the Oilers wanting to improve defense since they are where they are in the standings. Would Del Zotto make sense for them? What/Who would you want back?
- J35Bacher


A top 4 defenseman in his mid 20s
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 7 @ 11:51 AM ET
Listening to WIP (yeah yeah i know)....caller wants to talk about the Flyers.....cool a non eagles call. We need to trade Voracek. he turns the puck over. Finally get a Flyers call and that is is.
- nastyflyergirl



Same douche canoe who screams "shoot!" and "hit sumbuddy".



Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
Listening to WIP (yeah yeah i know)....caller wants to talk about the Flyers.....cool a non eagles call. We need to trade Voracek. he turns the puck over. Finally get a Flyers call and that is is.
- nastyflyergirl


We have some arguments in here, but the quality of conversation is a million times better than that.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Dec 7 @ 11:53 AM ET
How bout:

Lyubimov-G-Jake
Konecny-Raffl-Simmonds
Schenn-PEB-Weise
VDV-Cousins-CMac

Send down Leier, no point keeping him here to play 6 minutes per game.
You can also flip Lyubimov and Schenn in this lineup to shake things up

- BiggE


I like it. If I'm Hakstol, I probably still try Schenn there at first as a hail mary lol.

I wouldnt send Leier, back. Idk why he got so little ice time last night. Maybe Hak hasn't seen a lot of him recently with the tight schedule resulting in limited practice time.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 7 @ 11:55 AM ET
Streit has not been bad all year. He's producing points at 40/50 per season pace. He is slow as molasses and I would definitely have MDZ in the line up over him but let's not over react.
- Baxter27


Points production isn't off.

His defensive zone coverage is a full blown dumpster fire compared to last years smoldering dumpster fire.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 7 @ 11:56 AM ET
I like it. If I'm Hakstol, I probably still try Schenn there at first as a hail mary lol.

I wouldnt send Leier, back. Idk why he got so little ice time last night. Maybe Hak hasn't seen a lot of him recently with the tight schedule resulting in limited practice time.

- JFlyers00


I think it was just a case of it being his first NHL game in a year and the Panthers being so dominant. I'm sure Hexy didn't call him up just to play him six minutes game. His ice time will creep up, just like when Cousins got promoted last year.

If MDZ is really coming out, I'm guessing it's because Hak like Provy with Mac and he'll put Streit back with Gudas.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 7 @ 11:56 AM ET
Amazing. No matter how bad they are at times, they avoid being scratched. VDV has played decently of late. Streit has pretty much been bad all year.
- PLindbergh31



I think the VDV thing is as much you know what are you getting with players like PEB and VDV. At their best they arent going to be difference makers and at their worst they arent going to cost you the game.

Streit on the other hand... Not sure why he is in over MDZ.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Dec 7 @ 11:57 AM ET
Well it's pretty obvious he won't be back next year.

Looks like next year it will be Ghost, Provorov, Manning, and MacDonald.
Hopefully Sanheim, and Morin are ready next year.

- PLindbergh31


Don't be surprised if Myers makes the team.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 7 @ 11:57 AM ET
We have some arguments in here, but the quality of conversation is a million times better than that.
- Feanor


Most of our our arguments here are around CORSI and how awesome it is or isnt..

Do we really think anyone that calls in to talk hockey on WIP knows what fancy stats are? They are still stuck in "we need to punch sumbody"
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 7 @ 11:58 AM ET
I could be wrong, but I believe that Amac's deal is back loaded.
- JFlyers00


I think you're correct there. He hasn't been playing poorly at all.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 7 @ 11:59 AM ET
I think you're correct there. He hasn't been playing poorly at all.
- Just5


increments 250k each season.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM ET
Don't be surprised if Myers makes the team.
- JFlyers00


Right. He's tearing it up again supposedly
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 7 @ 12:01 PM ET
So you think it is a great stat that we lead the league in missed shot attempts and BS. Lead by Ghost....

You my friend are quite the hockey Guru!

- Konalover


flyers are currently 6th in the NHL in corsi % (tops in corsi for)...florida is actually #2.

it is less than ideal that they got outshot like they did, but I think it is more of an outlier than a trend given the personnel they used and the way they were deployed
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 7 @ 12:02 PM ET
Most of our our arguments here are around CORSI and how awesome it is or isnt..

Do we really think anyone that calls in to talk hockey on WIP knows what fancy stats are? They are still stuck in "we need to punch sumbody"

- opeth_pa




Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Dec 7 @ 12:03 PM ET
Points production isn't off.

His defensive zone coverage is a full blown dumpster fire compared to last years smoldering dumpster fire.

- dragonoffrost


I think it's about expectations with a player. Nothing I see from Streit surprises me this season. It's the same type of defense he was providing last season. Del Zotto on the other hand seems full of surprises both good and bad. He's making tremendous plays then the following shift a critical mistake. I myself would take the good with the bad but Hakstol seems to value consistency more than anything.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Dec 7 @ 12:04 PM ET
Don't be surprised if Myers makes the team.
- JFlyers00


I'd be very surprised.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 7 @ 12:04 PM ET
I think it was just a case of it being his first NHL game in a year and the Panthers being so dominant. I'm sure Hexy didn't call him up just to play him six minutes game. His ice time will creep up, just like when Cousins got promoted last year.

If MDZ is really coming out, I'm guessing it's because Hak like Provy with Mac and he'll put Streit back with Gudas.

- Feanor

Has MDZ struggled at times? Yes. However he is still a much better all around player than slow motion Streit at this point. Just because you wear a letter on your jersey, should not make a player immune from being scratched. Sure Streit makes a few nice offensive plays and scores some points, but his defensive work is just atrocious. He needs to sit.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 7 @ 12:10 PM ET
A top 4 defenseman in his mid 20s
- PhillySportsGuy


A first round pick which they can then flip to the Islanders for Andrew Ladd
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Dec 7 @ 12:13 PM ET
A first round pick which they can then flip to the Islanders for Andrew Ladd
- Streit2ThePoint


I'll flip you something
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 7 @ 12:13 PM ET
I'm sure hockey expert Ike Reese set him straight.
- PLindbergh31



It was the morning show. Morganti said "his possession numbers aren't good but he has been terrific". Angelo was dismissive of the guy. JFC people
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 7 @ 12:14 PM ET
lol

throw your radio out the window

- Scoob



listening on my computer
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 7 @ 12:20 PM ET
I'll flip you something
- PhillySportsGuy


J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 7 @ 12:25 PM ET
Is it me or is Provorov starting to make things looks effortless?
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 7 @ 12:28 PM ET
Is it me or is Provorov starting to make things looks effortless?
- J35Bacher



I was at the game and couldn't stop watching him every time he was on the ice. He is going to be so good. Norris trophy good.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 7 @ 12:31 PM ET
increments 250k each season.
- dragonoffrost

except next season...it goes up 500k. essentially, after this year he will make more than his cap hit each season, by increasing amounts
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