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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Dec 6 @ 6:17 PM ET
Brennan Klak ‏@nhlupdate 31m31 minutes ago
Fun stat: Richard Panik had 10 points in his first 10 games. He has 1 point in his last 17 games, #Blackhawks

- gravyface

I thought we were supposed to be mad that Chicago stole him off us
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Dec 6 @ 6:23 PM ET
dec 19-27
- Mandree85

Thank you kindly
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Dec 6 @ 6:24 PM ET
Ok, I'll try the question again when is the NHL winter trade freeze date? Anyone know?
- BreathLeafs2015


Sorry missed the question. (Not use to people asking me for hockey info, as you can tell by Tool's quote in my location...I'm nobody.)


You got the answer though.
Yeti1181
Referee
Edmonton Oilers
Location: I'm AWESOME, AB
Joined: 07.27.2012

Dec 6 @ 6:29 PM ET
Hyman is a much better bench warmer than Marner....




COME AT ME BRO!!


- lumlums

daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 6 @ 6:31 PM ET
That bust Marner is dragging down both Bozak and JVR. The stats prove it!


Edit: how the (frank) is Marincin above 50%? I hate Corsi.

- Steven_Seagull

favourable zone starts and quality of competition probably
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 6 @ 6:36 PM ET
favourable zone starts and quality of competition probably
- daeth


And Corsi doesn't add up til after 70 games or something stupid like that
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Dec 6 @ 6:40 PM ET
Sorry missed the question. (Not use to people asking me for hockey info, as you can tell by Tool's quote in my location...I'm nobody.)


You got the answer though.

- underhill14

Yes-thank you. My thinking if leafs were to make any trades
that it might be before trade freeze December 19. Do you concur?
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 6:40 PM ET
Brown and hyman tied in scoring
- Tumbleweed

Sometimes you just can't decide which is best....


Mandree85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Dec 6 @ 6:41 PM ET
Sometimes you just can't decide which is best....



- lumlums


they both belong on the third line or lower so meh
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 6:44 PM ET
they both belong on the third line or lower so meh
- Mandree85

GODDAMN IT LAUGH AT THE INNUENDO*!!!



*in-your-endo
Mandree85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Dec 6 @ 6:45 PM ET
GODDAMN IT LAUGH AT THE INNUENDO*!!!



*in-your-endo

- lumlums

why my endo ..... ??? lol
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 6 @ 6:45 PM ET
And Corsi doesn't add up til after 70 games or something stupid like that
- Garnie

honestly like any stat it becomes more meaningful the larger the sample size. sort like of how matthews hasn't scored 96 goals after 24 games even though he was on pace for it after 1 game.

corsi does do a decent job at showing possession, it just doesn't account for linemates, opponents, or zone starts so on its own it's not a flawless tool for comparing players. i think people have a problem with it just because it's sometimes used out of context.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Dec 6 @ 6:50 PM ET
I'm not trying to discredit your CF stats but I find a flaw in anything that tells me Hyman is better than Mariner.
- systemtool



Marner sucks

- honest hockey
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Dec 6 @ 6:52 PM ET
Marner sucks

- honest hockey

- burn

i forgot he existed
Cherry--Skoal
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 03.01.2010

Dec 6 @ 6:54 PM ET
CF% ---- Player

54.16 - Gardiner
53.33 - Carrick
53.00 - Matthews
52.77 - Nylander
52.06 - Hyman
51.82 - Rielly
51.27 - JVR
50.23 - Bozak
50.10 - Marincin
49.84 - Kadri
49.64 - Zaitsev
49.49 - Komarov
49.49 - Marner
49.38 - Brown
48.92 - Holland
48.55 - Soshnikov
47.43 - Martin
44.12 - Polak
43.79 - Smith
43.56 - Hunwick


Removing the bottom 3 = addition by subtraction.

- The Shrike

What a stupid (frank)in stat
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 6:54 PM ET
why my endo ..... ??? lol
- Mandree85

Better than your exo.


That's a chemistry joke....

SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Dec 6 @ 6:57 PM ET

- Steven_Seagull

I enjoyed this gif
Mandree85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Dec 6 @ 6:57 PM ET
Better than your exo.


That's a chemistry joke....


- lumlums

not even gonna pretend i understand that one doc!
Mandree85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.23.2014

Dec 6 @ 6:57 PM ET
I enjoyed this gif
- SRam19

i bet you did
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Dec 6 @ 7:12 PM ET
Yes-thank you. My thinking if leafs were to make any trades
that it might be before trade freeze December 19. Do you concur?

- BreathLeafs2015


I do.

I've been feeling like they will make at least a move for D man, especially if they go on a decent win streak and keep hovering around the wild card spot.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

Dec 6 @ 7:13 PM ET
GODDAMN IT LAUGH AT THE INNUENDO*!!!



*in-your-endo

- lumlums


He totally missed it. Wish I had that "flew right over the head" gif.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The Name Of The Game Is Hockey, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Dec 6 @ 7:16 PM ET
The thing I think is lame about Corsi and Fenwick is their stupid names. It's variations on shot differential. Of course more shots and shot attempts is usually good. But you give it some name that has to be explained, because the name itself is meaningless, people think it's some mysterious divining spell or some poop. Any time people start giving names to things that already have names, there's a bullpoop factor in there somewhere.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

Dec 6 @ 7:16 PM ET
i bet you did
- Mandree85

potassium is good for you.
Tumbleweed
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: avid reader of the daily douche news
Joined: 03.14.2014

Dec 6 @ 7:19 PM ET
Sometimes you just can't decide which is best....



- lumlums

Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Dec 6 @ 7:29 PM ET
honestly like any stat it becomes more meaningful the larger the sample size. sort like of how matthews hasn't scored 96 goals after 24 games even though he was on pace for it after 1 game.

corsi does do a decent job at showing possession, it just doesn't account for linemates, opponents, or zone starts so on its own it's not a flawless tool for comparing players. i think people have a problem with it just because it's sometimes used out of context.

- daeth


The bolded part is my biggest problem. Tanner is bad for that.

Hockey stats such as corsi are good tools, but cannot be looked at by themselves alone to determine how good a player is. Use them in combination with other information or use them to determine when someone deserves a better look to see if you've had an incorrect impression of them.
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