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Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 6 @ 8:52 PM ET
After a couple of PVR replays it's clear Hall didn't have to skate through him. He chose to hit him while he was vulnerable a' la Raffe Torres. Clean hit yes, but reckless and unnecessary. Brent Seabrook says hello
- Bowel-Auger

Being reckless and unnecessary but clean is an oxymoron in the truest sense.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 6 @ 8:52 PM ET
Didn't I say this last week?
- thundachunk

You might have but we don't listen to you either.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 6 @ 8:53 PM ET
Yeah, if you're looking for nickels on the sidewalk and walk head first into a telephone pole don't blame the pole.
- A_SteamingLombardi

WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Dec 6 @ 8:54 PM ET
You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. Just as the NHL will be entitled to theirs.
- docmorgan


No question whether head was contacted, problem is that to make a hit on the play legally (which Hall did - feel on the ice, through the centre of body), contact with the head was unavoidable. Thats where the onus is on Larsen to have his head up

From the rulebook:
Rule 48 – Illegal Check to the Head
48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A hit resulting in contact with an opponent’s head where the head was the main point of contact and such contact to the head was avoidable is not permitted.
In determining whether contact with an opponent's head was avoidable, the circumstances of the hit including the following shall be considered:
(i) Whether the player attempted to hit squarely through the opponent’s body and the head was not "picked" as a result of poor timing, poor angle of approach, or unnecessary extension of the body upward or outward.
(ii) Whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position by assuming a posture that made head contact on an otherwise full body check unavoidable.
(iii) Whether the opponent materially changed the position of his body or head immediately prior to or simultaneously with the hit in a way that significantly contributed to the head contact.


The Hall hit meets criteria (i) and (ii), no suspension
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 6 @ 8:54 PM ET
Where?
- thundachunk

Look up on the previous page, a little after half way down
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 6 @ 8:55 PM ET
No question whether head was contacted, problem is that to make a hit on the play legally (which Hall did - feel on the ice, through the centre of body), contact with the head was unavoidable. Thats where the onus is on Larsen to have his head up

From the rulebook:


The Hall hit meets criteria (i) and (ii), no suspension

- WhiteLie


Hopefully this will put it to rest.












Never gonna happen.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Dec 6 @ 8:56 PM ET
I'm new....and you're confusing me
- Bowel-Auger



Welcome Sir.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 6 @ 8:56 PM ET
I'm new....and you're confusing me
- Bowel-Auger



His masseuse
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 6 @ 8:56 PM ET
"do you pinch yourself every morning?"

I pinch every morning.
Bowel-Auger
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2016

Dec 6 @ 8:57 PM ET
Being reckless and unnecessary but clean is an oxymoron in the truest sense.
- Marwood


I was just acknowledging the consensus that it was clean according to the rules. I don't like the hit. I think it's reckless only because he had time to decide not to do it (regardless of Larsen looking for nickels). Hasn't Hall sat out from concussion issues in the past? Maybe I'm mixing him up with all the others.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 6 @ 8:58 PM ET
"do you pinch yourself every morning?"

I pinch a loaf every morning.

- A_SteamingLombardi


Good to know
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Dec 6 @ 8:59 PM ET
Hopefully this will put it to rest.












Never gonna happen.

- golfingsince


LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 6 @ 8:59 PM ET
I hope they win the draft lottery....that is all
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 6 @ 9:01 PM ET
I was just acknowledging the consensus that it was clean according to the rules. I don't like the hit. I think it's reckless only because he had time to decide not to do it (regardless of Larsen looking for nickels). Hasn't Hall sat out from concussion issues in the past? Maybe I'm mixing him up with all the others.
- Bowel-Auger


It's a rough and fast game. 999/1000 that hit doesn't happen because the D has their head up and avoids it. If Hall wanted to kill him he could have.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Dec 6 @ 9:03 PM ET
Dear god, no!
- Marwood

Apperantly nobody got the sarcasm in that......
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 6 @ 9:03 PM ET
WD getting out coached again?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 6 @ 9:06 PM ET
I was just acknowledging the consensus that it was clean according to the rules. I don't like the hit. I think it's reckless only because he had time to decide not to do it (regardless of Larsen looking for nickels). Hasn't Hall sat out from concussion issues in the past? Maybe I'm mixing him up with all the others.
- Bowel-Auger

I believe you called it a "blindside" hit initially, this suggests you don't know what a good hit is. It's a tough sport, keep your (frank)in head up, hope he's ok but that was perfectly legal and a great hit by Hall.

No more Scandinavians
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Dec 6 @ 9:06 PM ET
No question whether head was contacted, problem is that to make a hit on the play legally (which Hall did - feel on the ice, through the centre of body), contact with the head was unavoidable. Thats where the onus is on Larsen to have his head up

From the rulebook:


The Hall hit meets criteria (i) and (ii), no suspension

- WhiteLie

ya but if that was a canuck laying that hit its 5 and a game with a suspension so fak the rulebook its a joke!
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Dec 6 @ 9:06 PM ET
I just watched the hit a number of times. (thanks Retinalz)

Clean hit Larsen should of had his head up. I still feel bad though doesn't matter who it is that takes it.

Hard way to learn a lesson.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 6 @ 9:07 PM ET
WD getting out coached again?
- manvanfan

vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Dec 6 @ 9:07 PM ET
Clean hit. No suspension. Hope Lars is ok. The amount of skates around his fukken head in the skermish afterwards was dangerous as fukk
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 6 @ 9:08 PM ET
I was just acknowledging the consensus that it was clean according to the rules. I don't like the hit. I think it's reckless only because he had time to decide not to do it (regardless of Larsen looking for nickels). Hasn't Hall sat out from concussion issues in the past? Maybe I'm mixing him up with all the others.
- Bowel-Auger

I'm fine with the hit.
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Dec 6 @ 9:08 PM ET
WD getting out coached again?
- manvanfan



Yeah Willie's commitment to using scrubs like Chaput is pretty embarrassing.

Chaput had 2 shifts in the final 3 minutes of the Toronto game.
And this was after a commercial timeout so everyone was rested on the canucks.

thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Dec 6 @ 9:08 PM ET
I believe you called it a "blindside" hit initially, this suggests you don't know what a good hit is. It's a tough sport, keep your (frank)in head up, hope he's ok but that was perfectly legal and a great hit by Hall.

No more Scandinavians

- LeftCoaster

This.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 6 @ 9:08 PM ET
I believe you called it a "blindside" hit initially, this suggests you don't know what a good hit is. It's a tough sport, keep your (frank)in head up, hope he's ok but that was perfectly legal and a great hit by Hall.

No more Scandinavians

- LeftCoaster



Bring up the big Russian
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