keep on being you, just be miserable and move on
- DDM-Coga

I got your back, and sandwiches.

I got your back, and sandwiches.
- smellmyfinger

Trade me taylor hall that horse faced beast

Trade me taylor hall that horse faced beast
- DDM-Coga

You see the Stevens-esque hit Mr. Ed laid out tonight?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U9mV-CpolGc

You see the Stevens-esque hit Mr. Ed laid out tonight?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U9mV-CpolGc
- smellmyfinger

that was deadly, but idiot sbsia kicked his own guy in the head going after him afterwards

Fighting after a clean hit is stupid

that was deadly, but idiot sbsia kicked his own guy in the head going after him afterwards

Fighting after a clean hit is stupid
- DDM-Coga

Yep. Granlund was the only guy on the ice with a bit of sense shielding Larsens head.

Before every starts the trade everybody, blow this team up crap again.

Yes this is a frustrating season and no there won't be some magical switch that turns things around. They are a mediocre team that had potential but unforently many players have been beyond under preforming, making this damn near impossible

The core players are good and preforming with what they have, the roster throughout just isn't good enough but there are signs of progress and change in the way the team plays. There is light at the end, there are good player coming up the pipeline.

Now someone fight me claiming this is the worst team they have ever watched blah blah blah

Pickard...I said varly and pickard.
Honestly I think you probably should stop caring about this team already, You are a miserable sad sack, I dont think you have said one positive thing about this team in 5 years nor can you even look at things objectively.

The team is having the same record with poorer play out of their depth but with better positives with underlying numbers. How does that make them a worse team. I see some positives there despite the fact they are in the exact same position 3 seasons in a row. Meaning that things can turn around vs other years when there was no clear direction of better play coming out of them

What do you think that means. That the core is still carrying this team but can't do it alone. They are medicore team, but they are not a laughing stock defensively as years past that were bailed out by hot goaltenders to keep their head above water.

Now go find something else to complain about
- DDM-Coga

I think you need to take a hard look at exactly where we are in the standings RIGHT NOW.

This is THE WORST Colorado Avalanche team OF ALL TIME.

It's no coincidence that the BEST Avalanche team in many years was the first year that Roy coached.

EJ and Hejda were a stud paring that year. Roy could put them out in any situation and the Avs were as good as anybody on the ice.

Roy got out "while the getting was good" and there is no way of getting round that. He knew signing Barrie was a mistake and it was obvious (to anybody not stuffing their faces with sandwiches) that no matter WHAT he did, this team was destined to tank this year.

Duchene, McKinnon, Landeskog and the rest of the "core" are USELESS without an effective defense and anybody who even casually watches hockey KNOWS that.

I don't know WHY it's this way but Roy leaving has really had an adverse affect on Varly. And to make things worse, Bednar is an idiot for not playing Picks more than he has.

As Gretzky said about the Devils so many years ago, this is a "Mickey Mouse Organization" right now. The Avs aren't doing (and haven't done) ANYTHING right since the lockout.

Stop being such a fanboy and let's finally call a Duck a Duck.

This is the worst mis-managed team in the NHL right now and the standings show it.

Fire Sakic and Bednar, blow this team up and let's do what WINNING teams do and build from the net out. Take this opportunity to draft some defenseman. Get rid of Barrie and the rest of the dead weight and start building a team that is capable of implementing the "Defense-First" strategy that has worked so well for the currently successful teams in the NHL.

Edmonton is the perfect model. Look at how much better this team is by TRADING Hall and getting a decent defenseman in Larsson. Do you think that is a coincidence?

It's time to stop doing the "Altitude Dance" and making like everything is A-OK with this team and organization.

It's not. And it won't be as long as thing continue on the way they are going.

Roy fanboy being mad at me for not being a Roy fan boy is all this is.

Roy first year was fun, lots of drama, come back from behind wins, and stealing games in OT. But lets not pretend like they steam rolled that year, they were heavily getting outshot, winning games in bizarre fashions. Varly stole game with 40+ save performances. It was fun though, the team was winning and we didnt care how

They had Career point years from Barrie, Landy, Mack (obvi 1st year) Duchene, Stastnys (best in years), EJ, Varly, ROR.

All those guys had up to that point the best seasons of their careers. Everything went right for them. The worst thing to happen probably was that season bc the follow year, Avs Management bought into their own hype. That was Roy as well. They did very damaging moves in Stuart, Iggy, Mitchell extension, Holden extension, McLeod extension, Berra extension....heck even cliche and guinen. They locked up that team down tight and have no flexibility to adjust, and are still having issues from that offseason.

Roy brought a lot of good to this org, but he did a lot of harm too. Lets not sugarcoat this. He didnt get out bc he knew something was up with this team. Its funny the guys he wanted to get rid like Duchene and Barrie are preforming. Barrie is till producing points at a solid clip, something like near 20th in the league for D scoring. The guys he wanted out are the ones producing. Duchene is the teams leading scoring, something like a 65 point pace.

Yet the guys that he had a had in brining in are doing way more harm than good. Beauchemin, Soderberg, Iggy. Roy had just as much of bringing them in as Sakic and probably more. I loved Roy as a coaching personality, he inspired passion on the bench but his eye for talent was very questionable and his player usage was very suspect if you want to talk about mismanaging a game...he was King of that

FYI. using Edmonton as an example here.

Oh they had Eberle, Nuge, Draisaitl, Puljujarvi, and I dunno a Generational Talent in McDavid on the roster before they had the luxury of moving Hall for Dman (we can omit the yakupov pick from this bunch). 6 out of last 7 drafts were in the top 4. Look at them, yup great point

Avs have Dutch, MacKinnon, Landy, and Rantanen. awesome who are you moving for a Dman to help fix the D and who is still going to be make up the rest of the Top 6.

Everything isnt hunky dory in Avs land, but blowing it up for lesser players or moving your only good fwds for a Dman when you dont have any top fwds to replace them with....you won't get any better

won't read above.....Roy fanboy being mad at me for not being a Roy fan boy is all this is
- DDM-Coga

Lol. Yeah the problem isn't Roy's roster choices from previous seasons becoming maybe the worst depth players on any team in the league and destroying the team speed for "size" and "grit" or anything like that... Fire Bednar it's 100% is fault that he inherited a team of about 6 nhl caliber players and the rest being guys that should be getting paid 150 bucks a game in the highway hockey league in saskatchewan. Also being handcuffed to dead money preventing them from making any big name adds because of big bad brad stuart and other awesome roster choices by who? Patty Roy. Our secondary scoring is atrocious because we have no skill at wing outside of maybe 2 guys. Guess who would have helped us out a bit with that? PA Parenteau (FOR CHEAP!) Who hated him and traded him for Dany Briere? Patty Roy. I could go on and on and this is coming from a guy who grew up with Patrick Roy posters all over his room. Loved him as a player but coached and built a roster like it was still 1985.

FYI. using Edmonton as an example here.

Oh they had Eberle, Nuge, Draisaitl, Puljujarvi, and I dunno a Generational Talent in McDavid on the roster before they had the luxury of moving Hall for Dman (we can omit the yakupov pick from this bunch). 6 out of last 7 drafts were in the top 4. Look at them, yup great point

Avs have Dutch, MacKinnon, Landy, and Rantanen. awesome who are you moving for a Dman to help fix the D and who is still going to be make up the rest of the Top 6.

Everything isnt hunky dory in Avs land, but blowing it up for lesser players or moving your only good fwds for a Dman when you dont have any top fwds to replace them with....you won't get any better
- DDM-Coga

Thumbs up to you sir

Thumbs up to you sir
- agreig

I want change as well, but it takes 2 teams to tango. And if everyone is adamant that our core guys suck, then why are teams going to trade us "better guys". You can do a Hall for Larsson style trade if you have a solid pipeline of talent already arrived and established...Avs dont have that.

Compher, Greer, Jost, Bigras could be a breath of fresh air for this team very soon but they are not here yet. You can't move your best pieces now bc you are frustrated and rush the little prospect talent you do have.

Yep. Eat that sandwich and listen to your fanboy cheerleaders.

You haven't made a defensible argument since you've been part of this forum so I wouldn't expect you to do it now.

We used to come here (long before you and your stupid animated-gif showed up) and actually had a decent discussion about what was wrong and what was right about the Avs.

Anybody who is incapable of talking about what is WRONG with a team is probably as useless in a conversation as someone who never points out the RIGHT in a team.

Either way, you've shown yourself incapable of having a good two-way discussion about the Avs. So, maybe you should take a break for a while and let everybody else who KNOWS this team is in DISARRAY have their say without further making an idiot of yourself.

Between the stupid sandwich-gif and the fact that the Avs are the worst they've EVER been, you really just look... well... stupid.
- jratliff

a gif bothers you....oh no! Ive upset you.
You aren't even processing my analysis of the team, you just are hung up not he fact that I refuse to believe that trading the core guys is the answer and still believe that even the fact they are last in the NHL right now, that they are not a worse team that years past.

Do you remember the Brandon Yips of the world filling this roster in the Sacco era. Those were painful seasons. Last year under Roy was tough too, that team quit on him half way through the season, it wasn't enjoyable hockey either.

This team is struggling, Ive said I dont think everything is hunky dory in Avs land, but nope you rage on refusing to read that part just calling me a Fan boy. I believe the Core is still fine but they still need to build around them. The Depth is terrible and right now its showing even more so when the teams best Dman and Best defensive forward are out. But What do you expect? I dont know how many times I have mentioned the depth as an issue...however that isnt me pointing out whats wrong with the team....again omitting that fact. I really think you are upset that I dont believe the team as doom and gloom, end of the world, blow it up as you do. They aren't good, but they are the worst this organization has been in years. The core is still down its job, it needs some help. Obtaining better depth is the solution in my mind, not selling off players in a position of weakness

However as limited as the goals are coming its still MacKinnon, Dutch, Rants, and Barrie who are showing up to help.

and post was deleted....hmm interesting, can't stand behind the hot takes

and post was deleted....hmm interesting, can't stand behind the hot takes
- DDM-Coga

I deleted MY post before you actually posted an argument after initially saying you were just going to ignore my post

And yeah...

That sandwich-eating-gif if annoying as hell.

Trade me taylor hall that horse faced beast
- DDM-Coga

Jesus Coga...how do you handle these jabronis? They should all just zip it and wait for your hot take , adopt your philosophy start commenting then and only then. When they think for themselves they are a hot mess.

I deleted MY post before you actually posted an argument after initially saying you were just going to ignore my post

And yeah...

That sandwich-eating-gif if annoying as hell.
- jratliff

im not the enemy here. I just dont believe that drastic change is required to fix this thing.

Bette Depth will tell a lot. Beauchemin is a prime example, he has been a train wreck all season but are forced to play him Top 4 minutes. The team isnt going to get better until they have their own proper pipeline to develop talent to fill those rolls. Teams dont win when they are constructing 3/4 of their D core from Free Agent Signings.

Jesus Coga...how do you handle these jabronis? They should all just zip it and wait for your hot take , adopt your philosophy start commenting then and only then. When they think for themselves they are a hot mess.
- Larsson_fan

Hot Takes aren't for everyone

im not the enemy here. I just dont believe that drastic change is required to fix this thing.

Bette Depth will tell a lot. Beauchemin is a prime example, he has been a train wreck all season but are forced to play him Top 4 minutes. The team isnt going to get better until they have their own proper pipeline to develop talent to fill those rolls. Teams dont win when they are constructing 3/4 of their D core from Free Agent Signings.
- DDM-Coga

I'd rather slam my you know what in the sliding door of a dodge caravan than have to protect Beauchemin next year

I'd rather slam my you know what in the sliding door of a dodge caravan than have to protect Beauchemin next year
- agreig

THumb?

How (frank)en good was Joe Sakic back in the day.

I love the sandwich eating gif, it's him being a FATMARSH!

My only question is what kind of sandwich is it?

I love the sandwich eating gif, it's him being a FATMARSH!

My only question is what kind of sandwich is it?
- Avsrchamps01

My money is on a Turkey Club.

I've already went on my rant, I'm numb now. I'd do Barrie plus Grigs plus a mid rounder for Horse Face. He's that good.

My money is on a Turkey Club.
- LlamaLord

I wonder if that's a spicy italian from Subway?