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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 6 @ 1:11 PM ET
At the end of the day, are we not all statistics of life?
- Streit2ThePoint

I am the eye test of life
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 6 @ 1:11 PM ET
Only if you own an iPhone
- flyer_nutter

BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 1:11 PM ET
I wasn't really being snide with that. This place is a good outlet for my random thoughts.

Getting around 15inches of snow over today and tomorrow. Joy.

Hate you all. Love Konecny.

- flyer_nutter

Only ice round here is in drinks, sorry
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 6 @ 1:11 PM ET
I'm amazed how upset some people get when certain statistics are questioned. Also amazed when some people overvalue statistics and put them ahead of actually watching the game.
- MJL

like +/-?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 6 @ 1:15 PM ET
I am the eye test of life
- YuenglingJagr


Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 6 @ 1:19 PM ET
I don't agree with that decision, unless they feel he needs to get his wind back, and whatever illness he had, affected that. A player shouldn't lose his spot in the lineup, due to a short illness.
- MJL


If he had the stomach flu which I thought I saw...which I am getting over currently...it's a really good idea to get extra rest. His energy level isn't high I assure you
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 6 @ 1:19 PM ET
At the end of the day, are we not all statistics of life?
- Streit2ThePoint

Embrace the chaos
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 6 @ 1:19 PM ET
whoa red sox get chris sale

http://www.mlbtraderumors...o-acquire-chris-sale.html
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 6 @ 1:26 PM ET
whoa red sox get chris sale

http://www.mlbtraderumors...o-acquire-chris-sale.html

- YuenglingJagr


The sports news keeps flying
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 6 @ 1:31 PM ET
https://twitter.com/myreg...status/806002171024179200

Matheson got absolutely turnstiled by Pastrnak last night
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 6 @ 1:31 PM ET
Since the meltdown against the Leafs the Flyers have given up only 28 goals in 12 games, which equates to a 2.33 GAA over that time period.

They have given up 4 goals 1 time (3 of which came in the final period of the game against TB)

3 goals 4 times

2 goals 5 times

1 goal 2 times.

0 goals 0 times.

Mason has been a huge part of that, but the defense has also done a very good job.

As Amac's #1 detractor, I must say he has been playing good hockey of late. He had a few aggressive plays against the Preds where I normally see him step back. I loved it. As a d-man, my biggest gripe with him is that he makes it easy for the opposition forwards when they are carrying the puck. Forsberg walked him a bit and rifled a shot low wide in the second, but aside from that he had a very solid game.

Provy has been incredible. Yes he does make a few mistakes that I would normally gripe about if it were one of the other d-men, but he is a 19 year old rookie. Thats part of the learning curve. He had a shaky few games here and there, but has settled in over the past 2-3 weeks and it is incredible to watch. He had a rush in the Chicago game where he calmly accepted the pass while skating backward in the defensive zone (between the circles) he gracefully transition into a rush in which he carried it in and got a routine shot on Darling. Darling had to cover it. People do not understand what that does for the possession game. Forget the two goals, that play still stands out to me.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 6 @ 1:37 PM ET
Since the meltdown against the Leafs the Flyers have given up only 28 goals in 12 games, which equates to a 2.33 GAA over that time period.

They have given up 4 goals 1 time (3 of which came in the final period of the game against TB)

3 goals 4 times

2 goals 5 times

1 goal 2 times.

0 goals 0 times.

Mason has been a huge part of that, but the defense has also done a very good job.

As Amac's #1 detractor, I must say he has been playing good hockey of late. He had a few aggressive plays against the Preds where I normally see him step back. I loved it. As a d-man, my biggest gripe with him is that he makes it easy for the opposition forwards when they are carrying the puck. Forsberg walked him a bit and rifled a shot low wide in the second, but aside from that he had a very solid game.

Provy has been incredible. Yes he does make a few mistakes that I would normally gripe about if it were one of the other d-men, but he is a 19 year old rookie. Thats part of the learning curve. He had a shaky few games here and there, but has settled in over the past 2-3 weeks and it is incredible to watch. He had a rush in the Chicago game where he calmly accepted the pass while skating backward in the defensive zone (between the circles) he gracefully transition into a rush in which he carried it in and got a routine shot on Darling. Darling had to cover it. People do not understand what that does for the possession game. Forget the two goals, that play still stands out to me.

- jak521



I think the forwards have been much more responsible as well. The defense needs to be played by all five skaters to be effective. Theyve been pretty good at possession too outside of mainly the Boston game
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 6 @ 1:43 PM ET
I think the forwards have been much more responsible as well. The defense needs to be played by all five skaters to be effective. Theyve been pretty good at possession too outside of mainly the Boston game
- YuenglingJagr

There was a very bad breakdown in the Nashville game which led to the Fisher goal.


But you are right. The team D as a whole has been better.

Love having Luby in the forwards group. He is an outstanding defensive player
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 6 @ 1:44 PM ET
There was a very bad breakdown in the Nashville game which led to the Fisher goal.
- jak521


Wilson, but yeah I know what goal you're talking about. There was a discussion about it
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 6 @ 1:49 PM ET
Wilson, but yeah I know what goal you're talking about. There was a discussion about it
- YuenglingJagr


But it was still... the Defenseman's fault I think was the end decision of that discussion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 6 @ 1:51 PM ET
like +/-?
- YuenglingJagr


Yes, watching the game is ahead of even +/-.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 6 @ 1:53 PM ET
Yes, watching the game is ahead of even +/-.
- MJL

Oh I am sure of it
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 6 @ 1:56 PM ET
But it was still... the Defenseman's fault I think was the end decision of that discussion.
- dragonoffrost

I dont remember a verdict...I think a few things went wrong, but oh well. I think that play was still different than some of the earlier ones that were happening this season. The Nashville play was getting burned while being aggressive...Ghost is ususally pretty darn good at picking his spots and Fisher made an awesome play.

Earlier in the season guys were just flat out not in the right position or making boneheaded plays that backfired like going down for no reason, etc.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 6 @ 1:58 PM ET
I dont remember a verdict...I think a few things went wrong, but oh well. I think that play was still different than some of the earlier ones that were happening this season. The Nashville play was getting burned while being aggressive...Ghost is ususally pretty darn good at picking his spots and Fisher made an awesome play.

Earlier in the season guys were just flat out not in the right position or making boneheaded plays that backfired like going down for no reason, etc.

- YuenglingJagr

That was on our end, and we had great seats. I remember watching, took a sip of my beer and looked up after putting the beer down and I see Wilson rumbling in and CV was the closest player to him.. He didnt play it right either, but where the ef were the d-men? I couldnt even find them on the ice. Crazy.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 6 @ 2:08 PM ET
Anybody see this hit yet. Kid suffered a broken neck and back. 12 games suspension. He shouldnt even be allowed to play again. God awful dirty hit.

Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 6 @ 2:09 PM ET
I get the winning line up thing but sitting Gudas is just plain stupid(if he's healthy). He's been missed the last 2 games regardless of the results.
- Baxter27


I think he'd be playing if he was 100%.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 6 @ 2:10 PM ET
Anybody see this hit yet. Kid suffered a broken neck and back. 12 games suspension. He shouldnt even be allowed to play again. God awful dirty hit.


- jak521


Totally agreed.

There was so much indifference with how perpetrator executed this hit, he needs to be gone from that league for good.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 6 @ 2:12 PM ET
Anybody see this hit yet. Kid suffered a broken neck and back. 12 games suspension. He shouldnt even be allowed to play again. God awful dirty hit.


- jak521



Hope the kid recovers well enough to play again. It looks like he moves a leg in the video which is a good sign.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 6 @ 2:12 PM ET
There was a very bad breakdown in the Nashville game which led to the Fisher goal.

- jak521


Manning was only about 30 feet out of position, but it's all in the past now. No need to pick on DogBoy.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Dec 6 @ 2:17 PM ET
Manning was only about 30 feet out of position, but it's all in the past now. No need to pick on DogBoy.
- Feanor

I was watching it happen and I saw Cousins chasing Wilson down and CV was just kinda stuck. I thought the other two had gone off on a change. Whoaaa..
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