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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 6 @ 12:00 PM ET
So considering there's been zero hockey talk here today , i'll be the first the try out a topic.

What's up with Luc-Dubois? 18 points in 20 games in the Q, drafted 3rd overall? he missed a few games but WTF? And no mention of Maxime Fortier or Francois Beauchemin from any draft prospect sites that I've read... Those two kids are ripping up the Q this year along with Nico.

Brock seems to have hit a wall the last couple of weeks, but Gaudette is piling up the points. Lockwood and MacKenzie are both still playing well and I'm excited to see if Brisebois can crack the WJ roster.

- Brooks_Light

It's the Q. aren't they both older?
Edit: which begs the question! Are those 2 helping out Nico Hischier or is he helping them?
Edit 2: Brock is playing through an injury, hand i believe.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 6 @ 12:01 PM ET
That's shocking... I'm in that age group and a bloody foreigner to boot and even I can tell you all of the Provinces/territories - and their capital cities!!!
- lumlums

WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Dec 6 @ 12:04 PM ET
So considering there's been zero hockey talk here today , i'll be the first the try out a topic.

What's up with Luc-Dubois? 18 points in 20 games in the Q, drafted 3rd overall? he missed a few games but WTF? And no mention of Maxime Fortier or Francois Beauchemin from any draft prospect sites that I've read... Those two kids are ripping up the Q this year along with Nico.

Brock seems to have hit a wall the last couple of weeks, but Gaudette is piling up the points. Lockwood and MacKenzie are both still playing well and I'm excited to see if Brisebois can crack the WJ roster.

- Brooks_Light


I imagine if Lockwood continues playing like this, he makes the American WJC next season. It'll be nice if we have a few prospects in the tournament when Van/Vic host the tourney in a couple years
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
LOL Manitoba got about 20 cm yesterday, not going anywhere. Another 10 cm called for later today. Wife already got the car stuck.
- manvanfan


And you're in Brandon too! I swear, every time we've been there there's always been an accident on the bridges of either the 10 or 1A over the river... were there during the floos a few years ago too, bloody water was about 2-3 feet higher than the road and only held in by the sandbags
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 6 @ 12:05 PM ET
So considering there's been zero hockey talk here today , i'll be the first the try out a topic.

What's up with Luc-Dubois? 18 points in 20 games in the Q, drafted 3rd overall? he missed a few games but WTF? And no mention of Maxime Fortier or Francois Beauchemin from any draft prospect sites that I've read... Those two kids are ripping up the Q this year along with Nico.

Brock seems to have hit a wall the last couple of weeks, but Gaudette is piling up the points. Lockwood and MacKenzie are both still playing well and I'm excited to see if Brisebois can crack the WJ roster.

- Brooks_Light

Fortier was ranked 3rd-5th round for this years draft but was passed over looks like.

http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=213461
LeftCoaster
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Island City, BC
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 6 @ 12:06 PM ET
it was -2 here yesterday. Our small city almost shut down from it
- Codes1087

I golfed yesterday, it was +6 until the back nine, then it got snotty for three holes.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 6 @ 12:06 PM ET
I imagine if Lockwood continues playing like this, he makes the American WJC next season. It'll be nice if we have a few prospects in the tournament when Van/Vic host the tourney in a couple years :thumbs:
- WhiteLie

Considering Van is hopefully going to have a few extra picks in the coming seasons. Only thing i'd really like JB and co. to do this year is to not draft any 19 or 20 year olds. Should be looking for players that will need longer to develop and potential has been untapped yet.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 12:08 PM ET
Fortier was ranked 3rd-5th round for this years draft but was passed over looks like.

http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=213461

- NorthNuck


You have to think that he gets taken as an overager this coming year...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 6 @ 12:08 PM ET
And you're in Brandon too! I swear, every time we've been there there's always been an accident on the bridges of either the 10 or 1A over the river... were there during the flood a few years ago too, bloody water was about 2-3 feet higher than the road and only held in by the sandbags
- lumlums

Good times!
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

Dec 6 @ 12:10 PM ET
You have to think that he gets taken as an overager this coming year...
- lumlums

He'll only be 19, is that considered overage?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 6 @ 12:11 PM ET
You have to think that he gets taken as an overage this coming year...
- lumlums

I think Callan Foote is underrated. Be a great first pairing with OJ.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 12:12 PM ET
He'll only be 19, is that considered overage?
- NorthNuck


I believe that anyone who has already passed through the draft would be considered an overager.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 12:12 PM ET
Good times!
- manvanfan


No (frank)ing kidding
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 12:13 PM ET
I think Callan Foote is underrated. Be a great first pairing with OJ.
- manvanfan


Assuming no lottery win, that's who I'd like the Leafs to take
SMBDragon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Escaped from Krypton
Joined: 07.29.2010

Dec 6 @ 12:15 PM ET
Dont Stop Me Now, You're My Best Friend, Fat Bottomed Girls... it goes on and on
- WhiteLie

all good choices.....classics
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 6 @ 12:15 PM ET
Assuming no lottery win, that's who I'd like the Leafs to take
- lumlums

Yeah, can't go wrong really with a solid capable D. He may really never light the scoreboard on fire but he is going to be kind of Bouewmeester like. Just steady eddie.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 6 @ 12:18 PM ET
Canucks going to win tonight? My guess is 3-2 win for the canucks.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 12:19 PM ET
Yeah, can't go wrong really with a solid capable D. He may really never light the scoreboard on fire but he is going to be kind of Bouewmeester like. Just steady eddie.
- manvanfan


And that's exactly what we need to go with Rielly - he's many things, and insanely talented at shot generation, but he has trouble in his own end at times. With space and the puck on his stick he can make many things happen, but under pressure he struggles a little - which is probably why his partnership with Tanev worked so well at the worlds; they balanced each other and brought a complete skillset between them.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 6 @ 12:20 PM ET
Considering Van is hopefully going to have a few extra picks in the coming seasons. Only thing i'd really like JB and co. to do this year is to not draft any 19 or 20 year olds. Should be looking for players that will need longer to develop and potential has been untapped yet.
- manvanfan




I get a bit frustrated when I hear media or whoever say the Canucks think the rebuild is done. Whereas I think much of the work remaining is drafting and development, hoping JB doesn't trade away any picks, and hopefully a few trades here and there of players for picks at tdl or on the last year of contracts- ie. asset management.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 6 @ 12:22 PM ET
And that's exactly what we need to go with Rielly - he's many things, and insanely talented at shot generation, but he has trouble in his own end at times. With space and the puck on his stick he can make many things happen, but under pressure he struggles a little - which is probably why his partnership with Tanev worked so well at the worlds; they balanced each other and brought a complete skill set between them.
- lumlums

Yeah, I think that what Van is trying to find with Hutton and Gudbranson which isn't working. #freehutton
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 12:25 PM ET
Yeah, I think that what Van is trying to find with Hutton and Gudbranson which isn't working. #freehutton
- manvanfan




Could be worse - could be Hunwick and Polak (AKA Hunlak) who seem to be on ice for approximately 130% of Leafs goals against
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 6 @ 12:32 PM ET


I get a bit frustrated when I hear media or whoever say the Canucks think the rebuild is done. Whereas I think much of the work remaining is drafting and development, hoping JB doesn't trade away any picks, and hopefully a few trades here and there of players for picks at tel or on the last year of contracts- ie. asset management.

- hillbillydeluxe

The media are a bunch of moron's. I think any person with any sort of common sense can see that they are just making up a bunch of bullpoop.

The best way I can see Van getting back to winning ways is to do the opposite of what Van did this summer.

Drafted a top end potential D man. This year draft top end forward.
Trade a young assest for a middle D man. This year trade an older D (tanev or edler) for a younger forward.
Sign a top end college free agent D. This year sign a top end college free agent forward.

Adding in trading Hansen, Burrows, or someone else who doesn't fit into a 3 year plan.

So you get something like
Sedin Sedin Eriksson
Baertschi Horvat Böeser
(college FA) Sutter Virtanen/Rodin
4th line is whoever wins the jobs. I prefer players with at least a little experience.

Hutton Stecher
OJ Gudbranson
Sbisa Tryamkin.

Markstrom
Demko

That doesn't include if Edler or Tanev is traded for a NHL player. Also doesn't include this years first round pick. OR any Free agents.
Shut up about Sbisa (I know he is overpaid) but honestly he hasn't been that bad. Plays well with Tryamkin.

Oh poop i'm sorry.
hillbillydeluxe
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I didn't read it , BC
Joined: 09.21.2013

Dec 6 @ 12:33 PM ET
Yeah, I think that what Van is trying to find with Hutton and Gudbranson which isn't working. #freehutton
- manvanfan


The impression I got from Gudbranson's deployment in Florida was he was often paired with Campbell or Mitchell- experienced dmen. Now Guddy is paired with Hutton, he is now looked upon to be the steady vet... both are learning their roles and building chemistry (slowly).

I was wondering what Gudbranson would look like with Stecher?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Dec 6 @ 12:38 PM ET
The impression I got from Gudbranson's deployment in Florida was he was often paired with Campbell or Mitchell- experienced dmen. Now Guddy is paired with Hutton, he is now looked upon to be the steady vet... both are learning their roles and building chemistry (slowly).

I was wondering what Gudbranson would look like with Stecher?

- hillbillydeluxe

Gudbranson really isn't a vet yet, Canucks D is very young. If they didn't both play the right side I think that they could compliment. People have been saying that Edler plays more physical when he plays with Stecher. Feel as if it's maybe the same as Sbisa playing with Tryamkin, not relied on to be all D and physical but showing a bit more promise on the offensive side.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Dec 6 @ 12:40 PM ET
He'll only be 19, is that considered overage?
- NorthNuck


Once your not 18 anymore your done ...look at sam Bennett
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