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lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 12:42 AM ET
Another gem
- NorthNuck


Oh yeah

If there's one thing that I think Leafs and Nucks fans can agree on, it's a strong dislike of the Bruins
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 6 @ 12:47 AM ET
yes, but they didn't play for the canucks. I'm thinking what player (that was ranked out of the top 5) was developed in a canuck system that went on to become a "star" or as close to it in the league. Is Kesler that player?

Edit: Bieksa might be the next closest but he ain't no star.

- bloatedmosquito

Smyl
Sundstrom
Bure
CubanBuffet
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whine Country
Joined: 08.29.2014

Dec 6 @ 12:48 AM ET
Little joe was 31 years old and had spent 9 years as a shark


I think Bo could be a captain one day ...but he is 21 ...let him worry about other things for now

- Redmile247


You're around enough to know that we are always in a hurry around here.

Personally, I think that Horvat is too old. We should consider giving the C to Boeser next season.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 6 @ 12:48 AM ET
yes, but they didn't play for the canucks. I'm thinking what player (that was ranked out of the top 5) was developed in a canuck system that went on to become a "star" or as close to it in the league. Is Kesler that player?

Edit: Bieksa might be the next closest but he ain't no star.

- bloatedmosquito


Cam Neely --- 9th in 1983..... Does that count?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 6 @ 12:50 AM ET
Off the top of my head, Kesler and Burrows probably
- DariusKnight


Slim pickings for sure.

So I think the canucks have a better chance of landing that impact player by getting a very high draft pick.

As mentioned earlier, if a Kopitar type centre is available at the top of this year's draft then I would love to get him because that would make for a great 1-2 punch at centre for years to come. Then the GM can start focusing on correcting the other 246 problems with this team.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 6 @ 12:51 AM ET
Smyl
Sundstrom
Bure

- A_SteamingLombardi



40th, 175th, 113th

Tony Tanti?
Kurt Frasier?

Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 6 @ 12:54 AM ET
Slim pickings for sure.

So I think the canucks have a better chance of landing that impact player by getting a very high draft pick.

As mentioned earlier, if a Kopitar type centre is available at the top of this year's draft then I would love to get him because that would make for a great 1-2 punch at centre for years to come. Then the GM can start focusing on correcting the other 246 problems with this team.

- bloatedmosquito



Kesler is a real problem child for me. Sure, if he stayed, I would probably have an easier time defending him but after his Selke year, he became a comical, cronic diver and general pain in the butt.

Other than that "Nashville Series", I think he has been ahead of the curve but not someone I could build around.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 6 @ 12:55 AM ET
That's why I underlined developed.

Linden was a high draft pick so he was projected to be a difference maker. Twins went 2 and 3 and then straight to the NHL from Europe.

I'm thinking of a franchise taking their time to develop someone that might not be as talented. Groom them in the minors and bring them into a situation where they can succeed.

- bloatedmosquito

Bieksa did pretty well for us as a developed player. Though Kesler would likely be the best out of all of them. Though wasn't most of his AHL dev because of lock-out? He would have barely spend time there and been in the NHL if not for a lock-out if i remember correctly.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 6 @ 12:55 AM ET
Smyl
Sundstrom
Bure

- A_SteamingLombardi


Bure don't count because of circumstance. If he was truly available in a draft he would have gone top 5 for sure.

Sundstrom was drafted 175th overall but he developed under a european system and then came directly to canucks (like Ohlund and the twins).

Smyl? Canuck hero for sure but a league star? I don't know...

As I've said before, it's slim pickings.
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Dec 6 @ 12:56 AM ET
Datsyuk? Zetterberg? Pretty much any player on the Detroit Red Wings? Maybe even Scheiffle in Winnipeg, he marinated in the AHL for quite a bit. Toffoli in LA maybe? That's off the top of my head.
- DariusKnight

He specified Vancouver. No other team.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 6 @ 1:00 AM ET
Bieksa did pretty well for us as a developed player. Though Kesler would likely be the best out of all of them. Though wasn't most of his AHL dev because of lock-out? He would have barely spend time there and been in the NHL if not for a lock-out if i remember correctly.
- Retinalz


I'm just spit-bawlin but he did spend over 100 games with the moose and had the fortune of playing for the same coach in both leagues. That helped him immensely IMO.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Dec 6 @ 1:00 AM ET
You're around enough to know that we are always in a hurry around here.

Personally, I think that Horvat is too old. We should consider giving the C to Boeser next season.

- CubanBuffet


Good point ...don't know what I was thinking
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 6 @ 1:02 AM ET
40th, 175th, 113th

Tony Tanti?
Kurt Frasier?

- Beatle_john


Tanti 9th but by Chicago
Curt Fraser 27th
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 6 @ 1:03 AM ET
Kesler is a real problem child for me. Sure, if he stayed, I would probably have an easier time defending him but after his Selke year, he became a comical, cronic diver and general pain in the butt.

Other than that "Nashville Series", I think he has been ahead of the curve but not someone I could build around.

- Beatle_john


I agree; I wouldn't build around a kesler either. But I think he was a player that was projected to be a serviceable centre that became much more under a good canuck development system. Burrows’ was a product of that same system. Bieksa too.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 1:06 AM ET
Back again?

Remember, you, unlike Canucks Regs in a Leafs room, are always welcome here... but don't you think for a second you will not be constantly called out on your trolling and BS.



Now scoot.

- Beatle_john


You know that it's perfectly within your abilities to simply not respond to me right?


And, to the surprise of nobody, that would actually work out nicely for me too.


Grow up.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 6 @ 1:09 AM ET
You know that it's perfectly within your abilities to simply not respond to me right?

And, to the surprise of nobody, that would actually work out nicely for me too.

Grow up.

- lumlums


Stop it lums. That rule applies to you too. You know what you are going to get from him. You two have interacted a lot. You can ignore as well.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 1:13 AM ET
Stop it lums. That rule applies to you too. You know what you are going to get from him. You two have interacted a lot. You can ignore as well.
- bloatedmosquito


You're right. It's just irritating to be having a good convo with folks in here and then have him interject.

In the future I'll just ignore and report if necessary.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 6 @ 1:17 AM ET
40th, 175th, 113th

Tony Tanti?
Kurt Frasier?

- Beatle_john

Did we draft Tanti?
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 6 @ 1:21 AM ET
Did we draft Tanti?
- A_SteamingLombardi



No, I blew it... Chicago did. In fact, I can remember his rookie card.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 6 @ 1:23 AM ET
You're right. It's just irritating to be having a good convo with folks in here and then have him interject.

In the future I'll just ignore and report if necessary.

- lumlums


Beatle does have a certain knack. And all of it is directed at the leafs.

Edit: example above
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 6 @ 1:24 AM ET
Did we draft Tanti?
- A_SteamingLombardi



Funny enough, we traded him for Fraser.

I always thought Tanti was undervalued as a real central cog during the years he was here are perhaps should be in the ring of honour.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 6 @ 1:25 AM ET
Beatle does have a certain knack. And all of it is directed at the leafs.
- bloatedmosquito



I am loved in Toronto.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 6 @ 1:26 AM ET
Funny enough, we traded him for Fraser.

I always thought Tanti was undervalued as a real central cog during the years he was here are perhaps should be in the ring of honour.

- Beatle_john


(frank) I hate that ring of honour. So stupid and meaningless.
lumlums
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.25.2011

Dec 6 @ 1:27 AM ET
Beatle does have a certain knack. And all of it is directed at the leafs.
- bloatedmosquito



"Imagine all the people.... living life in peace"

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Dec 6 @ 1:27 AM ET
I am loved in Toronto.
- Beatle_john


Headliner.

Do you like the Jays?
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