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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 5 @ 11:43 AM ET
I think if he plays one game for the Flyers it burns a year. But it might be worth doing if he was threatening to stay in Sweden.

His SHL team Brynas are pretty good so it might be a moot point anyway if their playoffs go past the end of the Flyers season.

http://www.sportstats.com...key/sweden/shl/standings/

- Feanor


That's why I'm wondering if an ATO is a possibility with the Flyers as well, and after their season over (assuming they play past Brynas) they could sign him to an ELC while he's here.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 5 @ 11:44 AM ET
Kinda like burning the year on Lyon last season so he'd sign.
- dragonoffrost


Yes. Somehow he didn't have to play, just be on the roster to burn a year.

Going by this, ATOs are only for the AHL. But I'm not 100% sure. But even if it were possible, if you were Lindblom would you really agree to play in the NHL for free? I'd demand to get an ELC first if I was going to be playing in Flyers games.

http://www.buckys5thquart...2015/3/11/8188865/nhl-cba
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 5 @ 11:45 AM ET
He said to Jake how nice it was his parents could come over from Czechoslovakia, and Jake said come on, that went away a long time ago, it's the Czech Republic now.
- Feanor




Too bad the last line is cut out of that clip
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 5 @ 11:45 AM ET
The way lindblom is producing, I would have little to no issue burning a year of that deal.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 5 @ 11:47 AM ET
Any chance Tomek could play for the Czechs?
- jmatchett383


No idea where he is on pecking order there.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 5 @ 11:47 AM ET
drink in your hand and you have the BiggE hat trick
- YuenglingJagr

This is a true statement
😄
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 5 @ 11:48 AM ET
Yes. Somehow he didn't have to play, just be on the roster to burn a year.

Going by this, ATOs are only for the AHL. But I'm not 100% sure. But even if it were possible, if you were Lindblom would you really agree to play in the NHL for free? I'd demand to get an ELC first if I was going to be playing in Flyers games.

http://www.buckys5thquart...2015/3/11/8188865/nhl-cba

- Feanor


Sorry, it would be a PTO for him, not an ATO, as he's not an amateur.

But good point, he'd want the $$.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 11:49 AM ET
that is one way to look at it...somehow the Flyers have won 5 in a row without him or a player with his skillset
- YuenglingJagr


Cool, then we can trade Couturier and Neuvirth. Obviously not needed.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 5 @ 11:49 AM ET
The way lindblom is producing, I would have little to no issue burning a year of that deal.
- Mordecai


Yeah, it would only shorten it from three years to effectively two since he will only be 21 on 9/15/17.

How do Entry-Level Contracts Work?
Players younger than 25 years of age as of September 15 during the year of their first NHL contract must sign an entry-level contract which have set limitations - all entry-level contracts are two-way contracts and the maximum allowable salary for players drafted until 2022 is $925,000.

The length of the entry-level contract is also dependent on the player’s age:

18-21 years of age: 3 years
22-23 years of age: 2 years
24 years of age: 1 year
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 5 @ 11:49 AM ET
Sorry, it would be a PTO for him, not an ATO, as he's not an amateur.

But good point, he'd want the $$.

- jmatchett383


It's always about the money with this sport. always.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 5 @ 11:51 AM ET
It's always about the money with this sport. always.
- Scoob


You're always about the money with this sport. always.

RIDDLE ME THAT, BATMAN!
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 5 @ 11:51 AM ET
No idea where he is on pecking order there.
- Jsaquella


It would be his first real game in two seasons. He's buried at UND.

http://www.eliteprospects.../player.php?player=221902
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 11:51 AM ET
So, when his season is done, can he sign an ATO and play with the Flyers, or just the Phantoms?

Also, since he's 20, and not a CHL player, wouldn't the ELC kick in (assuming he signed one) once he plays 1 game? I don't think the slide rule is in effect for him, but could be wrong.

- jmatchett383



I believe an ATO would just be for the Phantoms. That wouldn't count against his ELC, similar to when Carter and Richards joined the Phantoms.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 5 @ 11:53 AM ET
The way lindblom is producing, I would have little to no issue burning a year of that deal.
- Mordecai



Wouldn't the Flyers position in the standings, be a factor?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 5 @ 11:57 AM ET
Wouldn't the Flyers position in the standings, be a factor?
- MJL

To an extent. If you have the opportunity to add a legitimate scoring/power winger and overall improve the team why wouldn't you?

Also, say Lindblom comes over and is able to click right into the top 6. You now have more options as far as trades go. Does Lindblom make Laughton expendable? Raffl?
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 5 @ 11:59 AM ET
Cool, then we can trade Couturier and Neuvirth. Obviously not needed.
- MJL

exactly
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 5 @ 12:02 PM ET
Wouldn't the Flyers position in the standings, be a factor?
- MJL


It would to me. I really wouldn't want to burn a year for a couple of regular season games, but if it was necessary to get him to commit I would do it. Just like with Lyon last year.

If the Flyers are going to the playoffs then I would happily burn a year to get a top 9 scoring winger on the team.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Dec 5 @ 12:03 PM ET
Lindblom is maintaining a point per game pace in the Swedish Elite league. 2nd in the league in points. One point back of the total points he had last year in exactly half the games.
- Just5


And in less average ice time per game, too, due to import players signed who were installed above him in the BIF lineup.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 5 @ 12:04 PM ET
Sorry, it would be a PTO for him, not an ATO, as he's not an amateur.

But good point, he'd want the $$.

- jmatchett383

he wasnt an amateur last year either

afaik he would need to sign his ELC to come play for the Flyers
juiced
Joined: 06.13.2014

Dec 5 @ 12:06 PM ET
It would to me. I really wouldn't want to burn a year for a couple of regular season games, but if it was necessary to get him to commit I would do it. Just like with Lyon last year.

If the Flyers are going to the playoffs then I would happily burn a year to get a top 9 scoring winger on the team.

- Feanor



Lets no forget we are at the pro contact limit...moves would have to be made to even have a spot for him to sign.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 5 @ 12:06 PM ET
Bad goalie Steve Mason, NHL 1st Star of the week
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 5 @ 12:06 PM ET
It's always about the money. always.
- Scoob


FTFY
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Dec 5 @ 12:07 PM ET
Lets no forget we are at the pro contact limit...moves would have to be made to even have a spot for him to sign.
- juiced


Flyers are at 46 contracts
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 5 @ 12:07 PM ET
Bad goalie Steve Mason, NHL 1st Star of the week
- Jsaquella


BGSM might be my favorite goalie related acronym since CSP.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 5 @ 12:08 PM ET
Bad goalie Steve Mason, NHL 1st Star of the week
- Jsaquella

must've been a bad week!
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