No, do I want to? *types with trepidation*
- Isleshockeyman

Safe answer around here is always "no". That being said you totally should.

Safe answer around here is always "no". That being said you totally should.
- Wildschwein

Schwein, that's like you saying "Hey, IHM, can you give me a hand? I want to see if my knife is sharp." Not really trusting you, my friend.

Schwein, that's like you saying "Hey, IHM, can you give me a hand? I want to see if my knife is sharp." Not really trusting you, my friend.
- Isleshockeyman

Nor should you.

No, do I want to? *types with trepidation*
- Isleshockeyman

yes you do...

Safe answer around here is always "no". That being said you totally should.
- Wildschwein

It has a great musical score

Video or don't waste my time
- Ihatebrianburke

Depends on how freaky she is, or if I'm willing to break the law... We'll see

yes you do...
- LittleRickyV2

Think I trust you less than Schwein.

- LittleRickyV2

Is that the mom from that reality show?

ever seen meatspin ?
- LittleRickyV2

A lot of the more prevalent issues that are associated with PC are so controversial particularly because there is a major mismatch in discourse and simply saying all of the uneducated middle class needs a gender studies degree to participate in this discourse is exactly the problem. Academia has a major part to play in the formation of this intellectual exclusiveness and while academics might think it allows them to assume a position of relative authority in the discourse, nothing could be further from the truth. It in fact isolates them and their followers from the general populace of practical thought, and once in an isolation, academia/intellectualism can rampantly devolve into some of the monstrosities we see coming out of the liberal arts Universities in the news. Only those who have bought into the particular pseudo/social-science status-quo (be it in gender studies or sociology or whatever) will recognize this position of authority, and for the rest it carries no more weight than anyone else's opinion. Most importantly, it is not for you or anyone else to say whether someone choosing to buy into some of the finer aspects of this social academia are stupid or not.

My point being, I disagree with the sentiment that we should all be more educated in the liberal arts before discussing these issues. And being immediately dismissive/elitist of other's perspectives just because they don't buy into the same school of thought that you do does nothing to further the discourse. If anything people need more education on basic economics (e.g., cost/benefit analysis).
- RonPielep

this isnt class warfare. and its dismissive of moral truths to marginalize it as such. one doesnt need a liberal arts degree to engage in healthy discourse. but one does need some base of knowledge. if any enlightenment is to be gained through said discourse anyway. and that isnt gained through bias and dogmatic one sided thought with nothing more than "beliefs" backing your opinions cause another bias fool told you so.

this is where opinion and knowledge collide. and one is unequivocally superior to the other. at least in terms of confronting the realities of said issues.

forget PC or whatever term has the strongest negative connotations in order to drive that anti intellectual narrative. there are moral truths and scientific facts that are beyond debate. and an uninformed opinion does nothing to change that even if you strongly believe it does.

ill make no apologies for dismissing uninformed opinions. its funny cause there's this prevalent thought that those in academia couldnt possibly also understand practicality and reality. why not? some might not, but generally speaking this couldnt be further from the truth. but those outside of that sphere generally cant say the same about matching academias knowledge. it is an unfair fight. whether some wanna believe that's elitism or not is beside the point.


there's no rational argument to be made that christianity is a more peaceful and less abhorrent belief system than any other. on any level. monotheistic belief systems are all equally and totally fuked. there's no rational argument or unassailable study that shows trans people must have a mental illness. theres no rational argument to be made that racism isnt a fundamental and intrinsic problem in america. this isnt pc. or liberalism.
these aren't up for debate. these are self evident truths.
and neither does it matter how much weight those truths hold with the general populace as you put it.

at the end of the day, if one is going to pontificate on issues to the degree that whats his name did, expect a retort. and in some cases, a nasty one is necessary.

freedom and democracy arent just words. they carry responsibility.

Think I trust you less than Schwein.

- Isleshockeyman

wise man... but seriously look it up

this isnt class warfare. and its dismissive of moral truths to marginalize it as such. one doesnt need a liberal arts degree to engage in healthy discourse. but one does need some base of knowledge. if any enlightenment is to be gained through said discourse anyway. and that isnt gained through bias and dogmatic one sided thought with nothing more than "beliefs" backing your opinions cause another bias fool told you so.

this is where opinion and knowledge collide. and one is unequivocally superior to the other. at least in terms of confronting the realities of said issues.

forget PC or whatever term has the strongest negative connotations in order to drive that anti intellectual narrative. there are moral truths that are beyond debate. and an uninformed opinion does nothing to change that even if you strongly believe it does.

ill make no apologies for dismissing uninformed opinions. its funny cause there's this prevalent thought that those in academia couldnt possibly also understand practicality and reality. some might not, but generally speaking this couldnt be further from the truth. but those outside of that sphere generally cant say the same about matching academias knowledge. it is an unfair fight. whether some wanna believe that's elitism or not is beside the point.


there's no rational argument to be made that christianity is a more peaceful and less abhorrent belief system than any other. on any level. monotheistic belief systems are all equally and totally fuked. there's no rational argument or unassailable study that shows trans people must have a mental illness. theres no rational argument to be made that racism isnt a fundamental and intrinsic problem in america. this isnt pc. or liberalism.
these arent up for debate. these are self evident truths.
and neither does it matter how much weight they hold with the general populace as you put it.

at the end of the day, if one is going to pontificate on issues to the degree that whats his name did, expect a retort. and in some cases, a nasty one is necessary.
- HB77

Legit post. I'm not being facetious when I say its posts like this that make me realize how truly uneducated I am. Gonna need to bone up on my reading material.

this isnt class warfare. and its dismissive of moral truths to marginalize it as such. one doesnt need a liberal arts degree to engage in healthy discourse. but one does need some base of knowledge. if any enlightenment is to be gained through said discourse anyway. and that isnt gained through bias and dogmatic one sided thought with nothing more than "beliefs" backing your opinions cause another bias fool told you so.

this is where opinion and knowledge collide. and one is unequivocally superior to the other. at least in terms of confronting the realities of said issues.

forget PC or whatever term has the strongest negative connotations in order to drive that anti intellectual narrative. there are moral truths and scientific facts that are beyond debate. and an uninformed opinion does nothing to change that even if you strongly believe it does.

ill make no apologies for dismissing uninformed opinions. its funny cause there's this prevalent thought that those in academia couldnt possibly also understand practicality and reality. why not? some might not, but generally speaking this couldnt be further from the truth. but those outside of that sphere generally cant say the same about matching academias knowledge. it is an unfair fight. whether some wanna believe that's elitism or not is beside the point.


there's no rational argument to be made that christianity is a more peaceful and less abhorrent belief system than any other. on any level. monotheistic belief systems are all equally and totally fuked. there's no rational argument or unassailable study that shows trans people must have a mental illness. theres no rational argument to be made that racism isnt a fundamental and intrinsic problem in america. this isnt pc. or liberalism.
these aren't up for debate. these are self evident truths.
and neither does it matter how much weight those truths hold with the general populace as you put it.

at the end of the day, if one is going to pontificate on issues to the degree that whats his name did, expect a retort. and in some cases, a nasty one is necessary.

freedom and democracy arent just words. they carry responsibility.
- HB77

Religious entities, churches, synagogues, etc. operate on a double belief system. The god or idol that they believe to be their truth and savior that they worship and money. It's that simple. I don't/won't deny any person the right to worship what or whomever they so please. And if you have enough money you can buy your way in. I've seen this first hand with the Catholic church.
A belief is a belief. An opinion is an opinion. Facts are facts. I'll choose to believe and/or worship whatever I want. However, facts are hard to argue against. Doesn't matter what side of the fence you're on. If all you're doing is spouting your belief or opinion as fact then you're a dumbass. Don't waste my time arguing with me because you believe the sky is purple.

wise man... but seriously look it up
- LittleRickyV2

I forget how many spins I lasted... I could have lasted more though.

Legit post. I'm not being facetious when I say its posts like this that make me realize how truly uneducated I am. Gonna need to bone up on my reading material.
- Wildschwein

What exactly does "boning up" entail?

What exactly does "boning up" entail?
- MaximumBone

Not sure, but it probably involves a pork roll, a bathmat and one other unspecified object. Midget perhaps?

wise man... but seriously look it up
- LittleRickyV2

Not on my work computer.

http://www.dateamidget.net/

this isnt class warfare. and its dismissive of moral truths to marginalize it as such. one doesnt need a liberal arts degree to engage in healthy discourse. but one does need some base of knowledge. if any enlightenment is to be gained through said discourse anyway. and that isnt gained through bias and dogmatic one sided thought with nothing more than "beliefs" backing your opinions cause another bias fool told you so.

this is where opinion and knowledge collide. and one is unequivocally superior to the other. at least in terms of confronting the realities of said issues.

forget PC or whatever term has the strongest negative connotations in order to drive that anti intellectual narrative. there are moral truths that are beyond debate. and an uninformed opinion does nothing to change that even if you strongly believe it does.

ill make no apologies for dismissing uninformed opinions. its funny cause there's this prevalent thought that those in academia couldnt possibly also understand practicality and reality. some might not, but generally speaking this couldnt be further from the truth. but those outside of that sphere generally cant say the same about matching academias knowledge. it is an unfair fight. whether some wanna believe that's elitism or not is beside the point.


there's no rational argument to be made that christianity is a more peaceful and less abhorrent belief system than any other. on any level. monotheistic belief systems are all equally and totally fuked. there's no rational argument or unassailable study that shows trans people must have a mental illness. theres no rational argument to be made that racism isnt a fundamental and intrinsic problem in america. this isnt pc. or liberalism.
these arent up for debate. these are self evident truths.
and neither does it matter how much weight they hold with the general populace as you put it.

at the end of the day, if one is going to pontificate on issues to the degree that whats his name did, expect a retort. and in some cases, a nasty one is necessary.
- HB77

There is plenty of rational arguments to be made that certain organized monotheistic religions are currently more progressive/developed/moral than others (even if they are all bad apples or have been). Acting like we can't distinguish or differentiate between them on any sort of level is pure bullpoop, and is only even remotely possible under some premise of moral relativism which is apparently not an acceptable concept because you've already asserted "there are moral truths that are beyond debate." If these 'moral truths' are so far beyond debate then they should have no problem withstanding a robust analysis/debate.

There is also a rational argument to be made that people with gender identity disorder (or gender dysphoria) have a mental disorder/illness as opposed to a physical one. Just because the blanket statement 'trans people must have a mental illness' might not be correct, doesn't mean there aren't important finer intricacies to these issues that are entirely up for debate.

Similarly, another straw man argument, I don't think very many people would argue that "racism isnt a fundamental and intrinsic problem in america" but rather people argue about the causal agents creating this problem and who contributes in which ways and how all of these interactions create these problems that we all pretty much agree exist. There are plenty of aspects of that discourse that are entirely up for debate.

In fact most of these issues could use with some actual statistical perspective and less rhetoric from both sides. If you are immediately dismissing someone's opinion just because they don't agree with the underlying assumptions of your rhetoric (which may be very questionable) then you are the definition of closed-minded. People from both extremes of the political spectrum who are devoured by this type of rhetoric are contributing to this lack of functional discourse. This deep-seated rhetoric is often just as prevalent in academia as it is anywhere else in society. In fact, some academics arguably have more indoctrination to rhetoric than they do actual 'knowledge', an important distinction to make.

http://www.dateamidget.net/


- laughs2907

Oooooooooohhhh boy! Here he goes.

Legit post. I'm not being facetious when I say its posts like this that make me realize how truly uneducated I am. Gonna need to bone up on my reading material.
- Wildschwein

dude, ive been reading your clever, intelligent, funny posts for ages.





and this is where the elitism narratives get skewed. you didn't start chirping about stuff you dont understand. just as i wouldnt. i didnt even offer any intelligible solutions in my retort. cause i dont have them.

i dont think im better than jb. or more intelligent cause ive taken a few undergrad courses or read a few books.
but there's a knowledge disconnect. and his belief system isn't gonna change that.

Religious entities, churches, synagogues, etc. operate on a double belief system. The god or idol that they believe to be their truth and savior that they worship and money. It's that simple. I don't/won't deny any person the right to worship what or whomever they so please. And if you have enough money you can buy your way in. I've seen this first hand with the Catholic church.
A belief is a belief. An opinion is an opinion. Facts are facts. I'll choose to believe and/or worship whatever I want. However, facts are hard to argue against. Doesn't matter what side of the fence you're on. If all you're doing is spouting your belief or opinion as fact then you're a dumbass. Don't waste my time arguing with me because you believe the sky is purple.
- Isleshockeyman

great effin post

interesting point about the monetary side of it.

Oooooooooohhhh boy! Here he goes.
- Isleshockeyman

I typed in the town I'm originally from (very small town of about 2,000 people) and it says there are currently 287 female midgets living there... Seems legit

Legit post. I'm not being facetious when I say its posts like this that make me realize how truly uneducated I am. Gonna need to bone up on my reading material.
- Wildschwein

Also, I wouldn't undersell yourself. You regularly exemplify a degree of humility that's incredibly rare. Your willingness to not only recognize a deficiency but also act on it is something I value FAR more than almost any other trait. As the old adage goes, the first step to improving a weakness is recognizing that one exists in the first place!

dude, ive been reading your clever, intelligent, funny posts for ages.





and this is where the elitism narratives get skewed. you didn't start chirping about stuff you dont understand. just as i wouldnt. i didnt even offer any intelligible solutions in my retort. cause i dont have them.

i dont think im better than jb. or more intelligent cause ive taken a few undergrad courses or read a few books.
but there's a knowledge disconnect. and his belief system isn't gonna change that.
- HB77

I on the other hand, know that I'm better than everyone else here. I'm also a lot smarter, and a much better lover than all of you twats.