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Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 3 @ 4:32 PM ET
Beating a dead horse but...

Game isnt just played at ES
10th leading scorer on team this season prior to injury
Being outscored by 3 dmen.

Neither Coots to Schenn have locked in the 2c Role to me but lets focus on something more applicable like a good Flyers win today.

- opeth_pa


Are you finally ready to explain how PP scoring should determine what ES line a forward plays on? Because you seem to be arguing that a player can't be a 2C, even if they lead their team in 5 on 5 scoring, if their PP points don't reach a certain level. Which makes no sense whatsoever.

The Flyers defense is leading the league in scoring which is really not sustainable, just like the lack of 5 on 5 scoring from many of their top 6, particularly Schenn and Giroux who are still below Couturier despite all their "dynamics".

http://stats.hockeyanalys...p=1&sort=PCT&sortdir=DESC
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 3 @ 4:39 PM ET
Are you finally ready to explain how PP scoring should determine what ES line a forward plays on? Because you seem to be arguing that a player can't be a 2C, even if they lead their team in 5 on 5 scoring, if their PP points don't reach a certain level. Which makes no sense whatsoever.

The Flyers defense is leading the league in scoring which is really not sustainable, just like the lack of 5 on 5 scoring from many of their top 6, particularly Schenn and Giroux who are still below Couturier despite all their "dynamics".

- Feanor


Agreed. Couturier was having an amazing, All-Star (maybe HHOF) worthy season before he went down. Step aside, Gretzky, Mr. Shot Attempt Advantage Couturier is here.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 3 @ 4:40 PM ET
Are you finally ready to explain how PP scoring should determine what ES line a forward plays on? Because you seem to be arguing that a player can't be a 2C, even if they lead their team in 5 on 5 scoring, if their PP points don't reach a certain level. Which makes no sense whatsoever.

The Flyers defense is leading the league in scoring which is really not sustainable, just like the lack of 5 on 5 scoring from many of their top 6, particularly Schenn and Giroux who are still below Couturier despite all their "dynamics".

- Feanor


I assume you're referring to points/60 at 5 on 5?
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 3 @ 4:41 PM ET
Agreed. Couturier was having an amazing, All-Star (maybe HHOF) worthy season before he went down. Step aside, Gretzky, Mr. Shot Attempt Advantage Couturier is here.
- jmatchett383


Why do you always bring up shot attempts when I'm talking about point scoring?

That was Schenn's first 5 on 5 goal in his 23rd game. It was a great goal, but to act like he's ready to take the 2C spot when he is the 2nd worst possession forward and even Gordon has scored at a better rate 5 on 5, is ludicrous.

He has done well on the PP which is why no one has said he should be demoted from the top PP unit. Because changing a player's PP role based on lack of scoring at ES is as nonsensical as changing their ES role based on lack of scoring on the PP.
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Dec 3 @ 5:18 PM ET
thank you. :-)

(frank) off, chicago.

- hammarby31


I tweeted you fool
MikesPillBottle
Joined: 07.01.2015

Dec 3 @ 5:20 PM ET
Why do you always bring up shot attempts when I'm talking about point scoring?

That was Schenn's first 5 on 5 goal in his 23rd game. It was a great goal, but to act like he's ready to take the 2C spot when he is the 2nd worst possession forward and even Gordon has scored at a better rate 5 on 5, is ludicrous.

He has done well on the PP which is why no one has said he should be demoted from the top PP unit. Because changing a player's PP role based on lack of scoring at ES is as nonsensical as changing their ES role based on lack of scoring on the PP.

- Feanor


He's a lefty so he uses hyperbole to the extreme to prove his point and insult you at the same time.

He's really freaking good at it. I'm actually an admirer of his.
Bobd62
New York Rangers
Location: Hauppauge, NY
Joined: 11.14.2015

Dec 3 @ 5:57 PM ET
And you can reserve your usual 2nd round exit ticket because the Rangers team is nothing more than Lundqvist in net.
- FreshFlyer

Unlike the flyers with their long list of can't miss prospects of which two look good and your less than stellar goldtending. I will come back in 5 years and you will be in the same place and ordinary mundane team of nobody's.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 3 @ 6:29 PM ET
Unlike the flyers with their long list of can't miss prospects of which two look good and your less than stellar goldtending. I will come back in 5 years and you will be in the same place and ordinary mundane team of nobody's.
- Bobd62

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 3 @ 11:08 PM ET
Sam Gagner wins the game tonight for CLB you can't make this up
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 4 @ 1:52 AM ET
Penn state
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