I honestly can't believe any Canuck fans are giving kudos on how the Leafs rebuilt. Thy have made the playoffs once in the last decade
- VANTEL

Would you be singing same tune if you lost Lotto entirely?
- Nuck4U

that's why we hired lou .. to fix the lottery for us.

I'm honored
- Tumbleweed

I was going to make you 505 but that honor went to Senscanucksnocups.

Patience for other teams, but if you aren't full blown tanking, there is no patience

My outlook for this season was try to compete for a playoff spot and if we got in, good experience for the young players and if we didn't, I hope we miss big and get a good draft position.

Win win outlook. (even if we just miss the playoffs, JB is pretty good at drafting and at least some contracts are coming off the books.)

As it turns out, we are struggling and constantly hear that we are sucking wrong from much of the media that expected the team to suck. it's pretty fecked up.
- hillbillydeluxe

Fully agree. Couldn't have said it better.

I honestly can't believe any Canuck fans are giving kudos on how the Leafs rebuilt. Thy have made the playoffs once in the last decade
- VANTEL

They arent a lock to make it this year either....I guess the meaning of successful rebuild has been changed through the years

They arent a lock to make it this year either....I guess the meaning of successful rebuild has been changed through the years
- RatedR80

I just laugh that the Canucks get roasted for trading seconds and not following Toronto and keeping and developing their picks...as the Leafs trade away a 1st for an average GT in a short cut. Good trade, sure.... but only if Toronto makes it according to the narratives in the media. Like I said, one trade for a high end player and the Leafs plan has to be rebranded. By then, maybe we drop a couple of vets and people are saying the Leafs should be using our model. It's all pretty fluid and can change in the course of one year.
- boonerbuck

Well the Leafs also have and had a boat load of picks so that were able to move some, they think he's better then average and he has been playing better then average so we will see. It all does change year to year but I'm betting the Leafs feel with Marner Nylander Matthews among others they can start acquiring proven talent but we will see..

I was going to make you 505 but that honor went to Senscanucksnocups.
- VANTEL

I feel like this just happened

that's why we hired lou .. to fix the lottery for us.
- Tumbleweed

There is no amount of high draft picks that could compensate for sitting across the table and staring at that bald headed miserable little pr1ck sourpuss day after day.

Patience for other teams, but if you aren't full blown tanking, there is no patience

My outlook for this season was try to compete for a playoff spot and if we got in, good experience for the young players and if we didn't, I hope we miss big and get a good draft position.

Win win outlook. (even if we just miss the playoffs, JB is pretty good at drafting and at least some contracts are coming off the books.)

As it turns out, we are struggling and constantly hear that we are sucking wrong from much of the media that expected the team to suck. it's pretty fecked up.
- hillbillydeluxe

But if you are a bubble team, you don't get a good draft position... so trying to make the playoffs=bubble team missbig=tank. Can't have both.

I feel like this just happened


- Tumbleweed

Should we start calling you Miss Philippines?

It's really shocking to me that people keep saying "We are doing it wrong" and "We need to tear it all down and rebuild". After this year, Miller and Burrows are guaranteed gone. We could also see Hansen traded at the deadline. That leaves the Sedins, who we know are untradeable, and Edler, who if we are lucky could also be traded.

I don't understand how people could say we "need a rebuild" and "need to play youth" "like the Leafs are doing" when nearly all of the old core is already gone or halfway out the door and pretty quick here we'll only have kids left to play anyways.

JB has drafted as well as he can and he's working on acquiring/drafting/developing the pieces we need to build a new core. Vantel was pointing this out to everyone over most of the summer, seems like watching a little bad hockey has made people forget.
- NorthNuck

Agree with all that. When the light shines somewhere else people get frustrated on why it's not happening here. Don't resign vets like Hammer or vet UFA for depth on D and then play a young D core gets slammed.

Instant success and patience don't play well together.

Well the Leafs also have and had a boat load of picks so that were able to move some, they think he's better then average and he has been playing better then average so we will see. It all does change year to year but I'm betting the Leafs feel with Marner Nylander Matthews among others they can start acquiring proven talent but we will see..
- ClarksonDavid

if the ykeep going in that direction, flip one of those talented young guys for d (did I mention we have Tanev?) then you might be in business very soon. Edmonton and leafs are fairly close, Edmonton just got better defensively (mcJesus doesny hurt either)

They arent a lock to make it this year either....I guess the meaning of successful rebuild has been changed through the years
- RatedR80

I believe Edmonton redefined them

There is no amount of high draft picks that could compensate for sitting across the table and staring at that bald headed miserable little pr1ck sourpuss day after day.
- VANTEL

Not even this pick

I honestly can't believe any Canuck fans are giving kudos on how the Leafs rebuilt. Thy have made the playoffs once in the last decade
- VANTEL

I don't watch them a lot, but from what I hear from the media, they are progressing nicely.

The tiresome stuff is that we hear the Canucks aren't going about their business the same way so it isn't the right way. When in reality, the skill we have been acquiring has been mostly through the draft, and JB has been doing a good job in that sense even if some of his trades and signings might not look great.

we are a work in progress and so is every other team in the league. if you are not in the playoffs and competing for the cup you should be trying to make moves to get there.

you might think you are on the right path, but that can only be confirmed when you reach the destination.

Should we start calling you Miss Philippines?
- VANTEL

I feel like i lost my crown not being 505...

I believe Edmonton redefined them
- rune_74

Anyone who says our rebuild has been a success is an idiot...sure as hell shouldnt take 10 years either

But if you are a bubble team, you don't get a good draft position... so trying to make the playoffs=bubble team missbig=tank. Can't have both.
- neem55

That's a static way of looking at things. Like Booner has said; Things are fluid. Dealing in black and white promotes misunderstanding and criticism.

Which is true.

I do think his sentiment of not getting why we hate Toronto to be funny too, but that's really not the thrust of the article were talking about here.
- neem55[/quotI think most fan bases in Canada hate the leaves because there shoved down our throat every Saturday at 4 pm, personally I havnt watched a 4pm game for ages unless its the nucks and leaves.

I honestly can't believe any Canuck fans are giving kudos on how the Leafs rebuilt. Thy have made the playoffs once in the last decade
- VANTEL

They are a much, much better team. Also way more fun to watch. They've taken your "let the kids play and kick the old guys out, it will be more fun to watch" more than any other team... is Vantel actually Lou Lamarello?!

They are a much, much better team. Also way more fun to watch. They've taken your "let the kids play and kick the old guys out, it will be more fun to watch" more than any other team... is Vantel actually Lou Lamarello?!
- neem55

They even have a couple of blogs their fans can post on, did you notice?

[quote=neem55]Which is true.

I do think his sentiment of not getting why we hate Toronto to be funny too, but that's really not the thrust of the article were talking about here.
- Bettmanhatesus[/quotI think most fan bases in Canada hate the leaves because there shoved down our throat every Saturday at 4 pm, personally I havnt watched a 4pm game for ages unless its the nucks and leaves.

I get that. I hate the leaves. I just look at thier lineup and... facts are facts.

Not even this pick


- Tumbleweed

That was one hell of a pick, It was the pick amongst picks. The golden pick. The Austen Matthews of picks

They even have a couple of blogs their fans can post on, did you notice?
- rune_74

I'm a leaves fan like you're a rhodes scholar