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Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 2 @ 11:01 PM ET
Adapt and change. A Canuck lesson for coaching and management. Things are not the same. Player development seems inconsistent. For every surprise there are disappointments. So goes the season. Club needs to step up. Fans are in pain. They want action and results. Where are we now
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 3 @ 12:12 AM ET
he's played better than both of ours, behind a worse defensive team.
- neem55

Bullpoop there is no worse defensive team than Vancouver.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 3 @ 12:30 AM ET
Which way are they trending? Be honest now, don't let your hate of Leaves enter into it. Which way are we trending, you can do it!
- neem55

in the exact same trend, bottom feeding team,
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 3 @ 12:31 AM ET
Bullpoop there is no worse defensive team than Vancouver.
- Makita

Poppycock!!
It's an elite, young all star defense!
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 3 @ 12:55 AM ET
1 - Trading players for less than full value just because they're over 22 is stupid.

2 - COULDN'T trade Vrbata and decided value offered was not worth trading Hamhuis. Both situations resulting from handicap of NTC's rather than incompetence of management.

3 - Burrows had zero trade value last year. The option was to buy him out and take a cap penalty for the next two years, or let him play it out. The latter looks like a better decision at this point.

4 - Hansen is a potential difference-maker as a third liner for a cup contender. That's when you would maximize his value. Trading him at the draft would have been a dumb move. Don't be surprised if he's moved this year at the deadline.

5 - They still needed a veteran goaltender this year and Miller has a NTC. He is also likely to be moved this year and will fetch more that way than he would as an off-season dump for no reason.

Toronto had a lousy team and signed a bunch of marginal players nobody else wanted to one year deals so they could hopefully flip some of them for draft picks. Not exactly rocket science and they're probably the only team in the league where you can get away with that strategy.

When you go through each scenario player by player and compare different teams each based on their own individual timelines, it's difficult to come to the conclusion that Canucks management isn't trying hard enough to accelerate a rebuild. It could be argued they're further ahead. So just because the Toronto media can't seem to stop pointing their collective finger and laughing at the Canucks doesn't mean you should listen to or agree with them.

- YeOldTimer

I like this post, you've answered several misnomers but I don't think this will sit well the crowd that thinks TO is the best model to follow.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 3 @ 1:11 AM ET
Poppycock!!
It's an elite, young all star defense!

- Marwood

Yes I've read that, they really played well last night apparently, everything that went wrong is the fault of the forwards, if not for the youth on defence the game would have been 15-1.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Dec 3 @ 1:14 AM ET
Yes I've read that, they really played well last night apparently, everything that went wrong is the fault of the forwards, if not for the youth on defence the game would have been 15-1.
- Makita

That and Willie not coaching urgency. The players must be told how to feel.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Dec 3 @ 1:21 AM ET
Yes I've read that, they really played well last night apparently, everything that went wrong is the fault of the forwards, if not for the youth on defence the game would have been 15-1.
- Makita

You need to stay on the island to keep you centered.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Dec 3 @ 1:28 AM ET
You need to stay on the island to keep you centered.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I am having a Grolsch to celebrate my 28-9 victory in Madden football over some random 8 year old on the internet.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 3 @ 1:33 AM ET
You need to stay on the island to keep you centered.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Even if I was here full time, I couldn't be a swallower the way some here are, all hail Torontos method
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Dec 3 @ 1:36 AM ET
You need to stay on the island to keep you centered.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I think he needs to give himself time out. Has he been hanging around Lefty?
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 3 @ 1:54 AM ET
True to Canadian nature, it's now politically incorrect to laugh at Nickelback. Damn feminists
- boonerbuck



Booner??? Are you from Quesnel????
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 3 @ 2:03 AM ET
I think he needs to give himself time out. Has he been hanging around Lefty?
- VANTEL

I hardly ever get to see the Canucks play, and for posters to say the D played well made me want to strangle them.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 3 @ 2:09 AM ET
I like this post, you've answered several misnomers but I don't think this will sit well the crowd that thinks TO is the best model to follow.
- Makita



Good to recognize. So you get the point that are rebuild is further ahead refers in part to Canuck's D.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 3 @ 2:11 AM ET
Even if I was here full time, I couldn't be a swallower the way some here are, all hail Torontos method
- Makita


THey know crap and got the lotto pick that Sabers missed out on the previous year.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Dec 3 @ 2:11 AM ET
Oh brother.........

Way to go TSN!

6 Stories are currently on tsn.ca's front page about "Bad Blood" between the Canucks and Leafs.

What kills me is that the Leafs lost a decade worth of games.... a friggin decade, won a couple in a row and suddenly they are high and mighty.

Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 3 @ 2:14 AM ET
I hardly ever get to see the Canucks play, and for posters to say the D played well made me want to strangle them.
- Makita



LAst night's game was not good or close at all. But to blame it on the D misses the problem. Yeah they had issues too. PL was the worst among them. But there were many telling signs that growth has been made among the young guys.
VIRTBOHUT
Location: kelowna, BC
Joined: 12.02.2015

Dec 3 @ 2:16 AM ET


Its painful to read the Laine reviews, and just how dynamic this kid is in PEG... I wonder what an extra 15 goals does for our record. Arena would be a lot fuller, and 3-4 more wins makes the relentless calls for a rebuild A LOT quieter.


http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...-oilers-toronto-april-30/
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 3 @ 2:18 AM ET
Oh brother.........

Way to go TSN!

6 Stories are currently on tsn.ca's front page about "Bad Blood" between the Canucks and Leafs.

What kills me is that the Leafs lost a decade worth of games.... a friggin decade, won a couple in a row and suddenly they are high and mighty.

- Beatle_john



Truth be told it was the worst animosity of a game with dirty hits and fights the Canucks have had all season. Plus one of their worse losses. So there is something to he story for at least the Canucks. Why the Leafs have any beef is beyond and belief of audacity. Pretty low of them and even Cherry was against what they did at the time.
VIRTBOHUT
Location: kelowna, BC
Joined: 12.02.2015

Dec 3 @ 2:19 AM ET
Ran the simulator 32 times

We pick top 3 only 8 times.. and first only once whilst being 3rd last in the league.



http://nhllotterysimulator.com/
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 3 @ 2:20 AM ET
Its painful to read the Laine reviews, and just how dynamic this kid is in PEG... I wonder what an extra 15 goals does for our record. Arena would be a lot fuller, and 3-4 more wins makes the relentless calls for a rebuild A LOT quieter.


http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...-oilers-toronto-april-30/

- VIRTBOHUT



#losiglottosmaketankingsuckmore.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Dec 3 @ 2:22 AM ET
Ran the simulator 32 times

We pick top 3 only 8 times.. and first only once whilst being 3rd last in the league.



http://nhllotterysimulator.com/

- VIRTBOHUT


Will say it again.

#losiglottosmaketankingsuckmore

Edit: time to make a trade or two to get lotto picks to add to odds.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Dec 3 @ 2:24 AM ET
Booner??? Are you from Quesnel????
- Beatle_john


No, I live just outside of Quesnel. I'm from Toronto originally. Been in BC since 88


I wonder if my warrants from when I was a minor in Toronto are still active?
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 3 @ 2:27 AM ET
LAst night's game was not good or close at all. But to blame it on the D misses the problem. Yeah they had issues too. PL was the worst among them. But there were many telling signs that growth has been made among the young guys.
- Nuck4U

Yes I agree, last night was not close at all, I'm not blaming it on the defensive players but they sucked more than any other segment. We have different opinions on what the problem is, you praise the D and blame the coach, I blame the talent of the players and understand the challenges of the coaching.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Dec 3 @ 2:32 AM ET
Will say it again.

#losiglottosmaketankingsuckmore

Edit: time to make a trade or two to get lotto picks to add to odds.

- Nuck4U

Help out an old man, WTF does this'll acually mean
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