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johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
Agreed. Even before the cap, I didn't want any part of Chris Gratton when we had him either. Take away the fact that we broke up the LOD to get him...the guy just wasn't worth his TOI to the team.
- jmatchett383


I found this article from when they finally got rid of Gratton and brought back Renberg:

http://articles.mcall.com...ael-renberg-chris-gratton

I must have chosen to forget that they Flyers gave Gratton a $9 million dollar signing bonus. That was back in 1997. Adjusting for inflation, that bonus comes out to about $13.5 million dollars in today's dollars.

Think about a team dropping that kind of coin for someone like Chris Gratton today.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:51 AM ET
LOL Claide Giroux only score 2 goals he sucks so elite

-2Real

- jmatchett383


And, the fact that Mason won't finish the season with a gaa of 0.00 and a save % of 1.000 just proves how horrible he is.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 9:52 AM ET
And, the fact that Mason won't finish the season with a gaa of 0.00 and a save % of 1.000 just proves how horrible he is.
- BiggE


Martin Jones is the best.












Ever
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:52 AM ET
I found this article from when they finally got rid of Gratton and brought back Renberg:

http://articles.mcall.com...ael-renberg-chris-gratton

I must have chosen to forget that they Flyers gave Gratton a $9 million dollar signing bonus. That was back in 1997. Adjusting for inflation, that bonus comes out to about $13.5 million dollars in today's dollars.

Think about a team dropping that kind of coin for someone like Chris Gratton today.

- johndewar


Pre cap contracts, especially from the big market teams were often nuts. Who can forget the Rags giving 3rd line center Bobby Holik 5 years and 45 million? It was just nuts!
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:53 AM ET
Martin Jones is the best.












Ever

- jmatchett383

Joe Pavelski is the Messiah, bow to him mortal fools!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 9:53 AM ET
Joe Pavelski is the Messiah, bow to him mortal fools!
- BiggE


I prefer Joe Pawvelski. Much more cuddly.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 2 @ 9:54 AM ET
I found this article from when they finally got rid of Gratton and brought back Renberg:

http://articles.mcall.com...ael-renberg-chris-gratton

I must have chosen to forget that they Flyers gave Gratton a $9 million dollar signing bonus. That was back in 1997. Adjusting for inflation, that bonus comes out to about $13.5 million dollars in today's dollars.

Think about a team dropping that kind of coin for someone like Chris Gratton today.

- johndewar



One of the dumbest things they ever did.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 9:55 AM ET
Pre cap contracts, especially from the big market teams were often nuts. Who can forget the Rags giving 3rd line center Bobby Holik 5 years and 45 million? It was just nuts!
- BiggE


And thank God they instituted the cap so that lower-budget teams like Tampa Bay, Dallas, New Jersey, and Colorado would be able to stay competitive, and to keep team like Philadelphia, Boston, New York, and Toronto from winning every year.

I really wish the owners had just come out and said, "This is a lockout because we're business men who want to maximize our profits. This has nothing to do with parity."
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 9:56 AM ET
One of the dumbest things they ever did.
- Scoob


Not as dumb as every single move ever made by Holmgren.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 2 @ 10:00 AM ET
And thank God they instituted the cap so that lower-budget teams like Tampa Bay, Dallas, New Jersey, and Colorado would be able to stay competitive, and to keep team like Philadelphia, Boston, New York, and Toronto from winning every year.

I really wish the owners had just come out and said, "This is a lockout because we're business men who want to maximize our profits. This has nothing to do with parity."

- jmatchett383


Yup, true on all accounts. At the end of the day, it's a business and the billionaires and mega corps that own the teams didn't get to where they are today by losing money. No matter what the owners or their little troll mouthpiece say, it will ALWAYS be about the bottom line. Ed Snider may have been the last NHL owner left who wanted to see his team win at any cost, though I guess there may be a few others. However, as time goes on and more and more teams are owned by huge corps, it will all, sadly, be about the bottom line.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 2 @ 10:01 AM ET
Not as dumb as every single move ever made by Holmgren.
- jmatchett383


Does AMac fall in to one of those deals
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 10:04 AM ET
Yup, true on all accounts. At the end of the day, it's a business and the billionaires and mega corps that own the teams didn't get to where they are today by losing money. No matter what the owners or their little troll mouthpiece say, it will ALWAYS be about the bottom line. Ed Snider may have been the last NHL owner left who wanted to see his team win at any cost, though I guess there may be a few others. However, as time goes on and more and more teams are owned by huge corps, it will all, sadly, be about the bottom line.

- BiggE


Ed Snider also understood that, in the entertainment industry, the best way to make money is to have an entertaining product that people in the area will enjoy. So if you put out a good product in a location that people want to see the product, you can do both.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 10:05 AM ET
Does AMac fall in to one of those deals
- 3flyerkids


He does...but the Eminger trade probably tops the list, tbh.
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 2 @ 10:06 AM ET
He does...but the Eminger trade probably tops the list, tbh.
- jmatchett383



Agree, I would love to know what Homer was on when he made that deal
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 10:07 AM ET
Agree, I would love to know what Homer was on when he made that deal
- 3flyerkids


That same thing he was on when he gave Jody Shelley a 3-year, $3.3M deal.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 2 @ 10:09 AM ET
Agree, I would love to know what Homer was on when he made that deal
- 3flyerkids

Ecstacy
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 2 @ 10:09 AM ET
That same thing he was on when he gave Jody Shelley a 3-year, $3.3M deal.
- jmatchett383



gotta get some of that stuff
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 2 @ 10:18 AM ET
He does...but the Eminger trade probably tops the list, tbh.
- jmatchett383


The Bryz deal is #1. Nothing else comes close.

Nine years for a 31-year old goalie.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 2 @ 10:29 AM ET
The Bryz deal is #1. Nothing else comes close.

Nine years for a 31-year old goalie.

- Feanor


Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 2 @ 10:31 AM ET
The Bryz deal is #1. Nothing else comes close.

Nine years for a 31-year old goalie.

- Feanor


prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 2 @ 10:35 AM ET
LOL, Sens fans trying to blame the loss on the refs.

Apparently, according to them, the second goal shouldn't have counted because Bellmare or whatever his name is, held Wideman's stick.

Looks a hell of a lot like Wideman hooking him to me. Could have been a penalty to him....

https://www.nhl.com/video...pe/t-283197244/c-46928703

(42 second mark)
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Dec 2 @ 10:41 AM ET
LOL, Sens fans trying to blame the loss on the refs.

Apparently, according to them, the second goal shouldn't have counted because Bellmare or whatever his name is, held Wideman's stick.

Looks a hell of a lot like Wideman hooking him to me. Could have been a penalty to him....

https://www.nhl.com/video...pe/t-283197244/c-46928703

(42 second mark)

- prock


The fact that one of their guys had like 4 minor penalties throughout the night is a non factor to them apparently
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 2 @ 10:44 AM ET
Think about a team dropping that kind of coin for someone like Chris Gratton today.
- johndewar


At the time Gratton was coming off a pretty monster season though if i remember right..I want to say something like 30 goals and 200 PIM ?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 2 @ 10:48 AM ET
fans trying to blame the loss on the refs.


- prock


Ah, yes, the battle cry of the loser.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 2 @ 10:48 AM ET
Ed Snider also understood that, in the entertainment industry, the best way to make money is to have an entertaining product that people in the area will enjoy. So if you put out a good product in a location that people want to see the product, you can do both.
- jmatchett383

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