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Raven33
Ottawa Senators
Location: Jenn, stop copying me as I copy Garth myself! - Andrew S.
Joined: 11.12.2008

Dec 2 @ 9:05 AM ET
Do you believe Fraud Giroux got engaged in the middle of the season?

_laude Giroux does not deserve to wear the "C".
johndewar


And the Flyers benefited from wedding gifts from the refs not calling anything on them in the 2nd! worst reffing "performance" I've seen this year!
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 9:06 AM ET
Do you believe Fraud Giroux got engaged in the middle of the season?

_laude Giroux does not deserve to wear the "C".

- johndewar


Horrible captain. Give the C to Konecny.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 9:07 AM ET
And the Flyers benefited from wedding gifts from the refs not calling anything on them in the 2nd! worst reffing "performance" I've seen this year!
- Raven33


Yes...the referees all love the Flyers, the belles of the league's ball. Agreed.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:07 AM ET
Actually, his ice time is down about a minute per game from last season, which is asinine given how well he's played all year so far but it seems to be working for him regardless.


Bill, any speculation as to why Lindblom's ice time is down? You'd think if a guy was lighting it up like it sounds like Lindblom is doing, he'd be getting more ice time, not less.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 2 @ 9:09 AM ET
challenge the linesman's on-ice ruling of an onside play
- Bill Meltzer


This should never be allowed. Never.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:09 AM ET
And the Flyers benefited from wedding gifts from the refs not calling anything on them in the 2nd! worst reffing "performance" I've seen this year!
- Raven33


Let's be honest; that game was a clutch and grab fest. I was waiting for the camera to pan down to the benches and find Jacques Lemaire engaging in maniacal laughter.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Dec 2 @ 9:10 AM ET
Bill, any speculation as to why Lindblom's ice time is down? You'd think if a guy was lighting it up like it sounds like Lindblom is doing, he'd be getting more ice time, not less.
- johndewar


They signed some high-priced import players and salaries have kind of driven ice time to some degree. That's pretty much why.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:11 AM ET
They signed some high-priced import players and salaries have kind of driven ice time to some degree. That's pretty much why.
- bmeltzer


Ah, understood. Thanks!

Here's hoping Lindblom comes over to NA next year, whether in Philly or LHV.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 2 @ 9:11 AM ET
They gotta give Bellemare that goal. He clearly tipped it, and he's not going to get many more this season.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Dec 2 @ 9:12 AM ET
Let's be honest; that game was a clutch and grab fest. I was waiting for the camera to pan down to the benches and find Jacques Lemaire engaging in maniacal laughter.
- johndewar


Exactly. It was a game only Lemaire, Hitch or, well, Guy Boucher (especially without Anderson or Methot available), would enjoy.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 9:13 AM ET
Also: Steve Mason is as good as Henrik Lundqvist, or if you prefer, Henrik Lundqvist is as bad as Bad Goalie Steve Mason.

Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 2 @ 9:15 AM ET
Like I said, he played well, but! It's a simple thing. He played well in the game last night.
- MJL


Andrew MacDonald played a good game on December 1, 2016.

The only game this season where his contract value equaled his level of play.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 9:16 AM ET
Andrew MacDonald played a good game on December 1, 2016.

The only game this season where his contract value equaled his level of play.

- Streit2ThePoint


SLIGHTLY OVERPAID TOP-4 DEFNSEMAN!!!
3flyerkids
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.27.2013

Dec 2 @ 9:18 AM ET
Well, after all, it is the time of year to spread tidings of comfort and joy
- BiggE


Very true ..
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Dec 2 @ 9:20 AM ET
Also: Steve Mason is as good as Henrik Lundqvist, or if you prefer, Henrik Lundqvist is as bad as Bad Goalie Steve Mason.


- jmatchett383


Even when CSP gives up a softie from the red line, he's still dreamy.


Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Dec 2 @ 9:20 AM ET
Andrew MacDonald played a good game on December 1, 2016.

The only game this season where his contract value equaled his level of play.

- Streit2ThePoint


BSH also thought he was good in the previous game.

http://www.broadstreethoc...ed-from-two-points-stolen

#8: Andrew MacDonald had a solid game

It’s not inaccurate to say that if Andrew MacDonald has a case to be considered one of your team’s best players on the night, then you probably didn’t deserve to win the game. However, that shouldn’t take away from the fact that MacDonald did truly play well, and it’s not even grading him on a curve because the rest of the team looked so bad. The 30-year defenseman was consistently making positive plays, whether it was timely clears of loose pucks from the crease area (this happened at least twice) or even defensive disruptions in the neutral zone. MacDonald also drew two Bruins penalties, the second of which was a borderline roughing penalty sold perfectly by the oft-criticized Flyers defenseman.

Now, one game doesn’t change the fact that Andrew MacDonald has been ineffective for Philadelphia during the 2016-17 season. But if we’re going to criticize him for poor performances, it’s only fair to praise him when he provides positive results for the Flyers. The numbers back it up as well — MacDonald led the defense in score-adjusted Corsi For percentage and was +28.32% relative to his teammates. With Brandon Manning dealing with a possible concussion and Nick Schultz little better by advanced stats than MacDonald, this isn’t time for fans to fret that one good game may blind the coaching staff to his obvious limitations. MacDonald is going to play for a bit, so you might as well root for more games like this one rather than scream for a benching.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:20 AM ET
And the Flyers benefited from wedding gifts from the refs not calling anything on them in the 2nd! worst reffing "performance" I've seen this year!
- Raven33


Here's a kleenex, now go have some cocoa.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Dec 2 @ 9:24 AM ET
Women weaken legs. Be careful young Giroux. Now she has him. He's dunzzo.
Streit2ThePoint
Seattle Kraken
Location: it's disgusting how good you are at hockeybuzz.
Joined: 09.20.2013

Dec 2 @ 9:25 AM ET
BSH also thought he was good in the previous game.

http://www.broadstreethoc...ed-from-two-points-stolen

- Feanor


On November 27, 2016 Andrew MacDonald did the job he is being paid to do.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Dec 2 @ 9:27 AM ET
From the last thread re AMac:

He had a solid game, except for a boneheaded icing at the end of the 3rd. Still for 5 million per, it's nothing to write home about.

No MJL, it doesn't kill me to write that he had a good game. I want every Flyer to succeed as much as possible. What kills me is that AMac isn't playing the way he did last night every game. For 5 million per season, last night's effort is the minimum that I would hope and expect each and every night. He absolutely played well last night and I'm glad to see and say it. However, he needs to do this on a long term consistent basis before I get excited about or change my opinion of the player and his value to the team.

As I've said numerous times before, If he had been signed to a 4 year, 15 million dollar deal, I wouldn't be complaining. However when you are signed for 30 million over 6 years, like it or not, the bar gets raised. And, on way to many nights, his performance has not reached the level it needs to be at. The player has spent time in the minors and has, at times, been a healthy scratch. You would expect more from someone being paid 5 million per season.

I've been following the Flyers since the early 70's and I want the franchise and each and every player to succeed. It gives me no pleasure whatsoever when they don't.

- BiggE


Totally agree.

And I understand everyone will take the money. But your right. Fair or not when you get paid what he did then you get held to a higher standard. Yes MacDonald might be a slightly over paid top 4 guy. Problem is he is probably the first guy out when the guy making 975k comes back. So he might have one or two good games but he hasn't done near enough for a guy making what he does.
konalover711
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PHX, AZ
Joined: 10.20.2015

Dec 2 @ 9:27 AM ET
They gotta give Bellemare that goal. He clearly tipped it, and he's not going to get many more this season.
- Feanor



I must say I loved his quote at the end of the game, "if I get credit for it or not it really doesn't matter to him as long as we won." He is TEAM first.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 2 @ 9:28 AM ET
I must say I loved his quote at the end of the game, "if I get credit for it or not it really doesn't matter to him as long as we won." He is TEAM first.
- konalover711


Very surprising, considering that he's French.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Dec 2 @ 9:29 AM ET
On November 27, 2016 Andrew MacDonald did the job he is being paid to do.
- Streit2ThePoint

Going to be tough to scratch him when Manning comes back
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Dec 2 @ 9:30 AM ET
Very surprising, considering that he's French.
- jmatchett383


No. It just means he'll easily surrender credit for a goal scored.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 2 @ 9:30 AM ET
Very surprising, considering that he's French.
- jmatchett383


Being French is no biggie. Well, unless, we are playing the German national team. Then that Frenchy will run like the (frank)ing wind!
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