The reason you can't "fathom" it is because sometimes, you can be an unbearable fanboy.

You often come across as a know-it-all. You often bully or berate people when their opinion differs from yours and worse: You are so biased on your opinion, you actually DO believe the Avs are only one or two "analytical stats" away from being a good hockey team.

Once again (and no amount of "analytical B.S." is going to sugar-coat this), the Avs are cellar-dwellers before most of us are even singing "Jingle Bells". If you think the odd lucky bounce here and there or a little higher shooting percentage would have a large effect on the overall results this year, you are deluding yourself.

Most people who post here (other than the game-day trolls from other teams) ARE fans. Many of them have been posting here and following the Avs longer than you have. It might be frustrating to you that some people only come here to complain, but hey... It's a free country and this IS a DISCUSSION forum and to those of us who spend money on Center Ice and game tickets and spend hundreds of hours a year watching the Avs play, the years since Roy has been in net have, for the most part, been disappointing.

No, it doesn't help the TEAM a darn bit when people come here and complain (any more than it HELPS the team when you suggest lineups or post useless analytical stats) but sometimes, the best outlet people have for their frustrations IS to come here and complain and there is nothing wrong with that. They've got just as much right to their opinion as you do to yours.

So, next time you are tempted to go all fanboy on somebody who posts something you disagree with, maybe you should just bite your tongue and let them have their say.

If the Avs are tops of the league come Spring, you get to gloat about how right you were and we can all bow down to your superior knowledge. Until then, just keep in mind that RIGHT NOW, the Avs are next-to-last in the league and no statistical analyses is going to make that fact easier to swallow.
- AdamFrench

Stats...what are these things you speak of?

Stats...what are these things you speak of?
- Garnie

You cannot use goal scoring to assess how good a team is. Scoring a goal is too uncommon an event to be reliable.

Love,
James Tanner

2more days till Martin's funeral

You cannot use goal scoring to assess how good a team is. Scoring a goal is too uncommon an event to be reliable.

Love,
James Tanner
- Aetherial

I just need to know how many shot attempts = high quality scoring chance

then I need to know how man high quality scoring chances are needed to = an expected goal then I need to know how many expected goals turn into actual goals

Once I know all that we will be able to calculate how many shot attempts we need to make back up due to a Jake Gardiner turnover.

After all that i'll be able to understand the game of hockey a lot better.

2more days till Martin's funeral
- poohcrumbs

... and Kadri's?

I just need to know how many shot attempts = high quality scoring chance

then I need to know how man high quality scoring chances are needed to = an expected goal then I need to know how many expected goals turn into actual goals

Once I know all that we will be able to calculate how many shot attempts we need to make back up due to a Jake Gardiner turnover.

After all that i'll be able to understand the game of hockey a lot better.
- Garnie

It is not about that. It is about the players Luck%... the difference between Expected Goals and Actual Goals.

Gardiner is unlucky in that his opponents have a tremendous luck%. eventually it will regress to the mean. Everything regresses to the mean. The size of the QoC doesn't matter. Goaltending doesn't matter. Goal scoring doesn't matter.

You are far from being capable of understanding this and I am dumber for having tried to explain it to you.

The reason you can't "fathom" it is because sometimes, you can be an unbearable fanboy.

You often come across as a know-it-all. You often bully or berate people when their opinion differs from yours and worse: You are so biased on your opinion, you actually DO believe the Avs are only one or two "analytical stats" away from being a good hockey team.

Once again (and no amount of "analytical B.S." is going to sugar-coat this), the Avs are cellar-dwellers before most of us are even singing "Jingle Bells". If you think the odd lucky bounce here and there or a little higher shooting percentage would have a large effect on the overall results this year, you are deluding yourself.

Most people who post here (other than the game-day trolls from other teams) ARE fans. Many of them have been posting here and following the Avs longer than you have. It might be frustrating to you that some people only come here to complain, but hey... It's a free country and this IS a DISCUSSION forum and to those of us who spend money on Center Ice and game tickets and spend hundreds of hours a year watching the Avs play, the years since Roy has been in net have, for the most part, been disappointing.

No, it doesn't help the TEAM a darn bit when people come here and complain (any more than it HELPS the team when you suggest lineups or post useless analytical stats) but sometimes, the best outlet people have for their frustrations IS to come here and complain and there is nothing wrong with that. They've got just as much right to their opinion as you do to yours.

So, next time you are tempted to go all fanboy on somebody who posts something you disagree with, maybe you should just bite your tongue and let them have their say.

If the Avs are tops of the league come Spring, you get to gloat about how right you were and we can all bow down to your superior knowledge. Until then, just keep in mind that RIGHT NOW, the Avs are next-to-last in the league and no statistical analyses is going to make that fact easier to swallow.
- AdamFrench

I stopped reading after "swallow".

2more days till Martin's funeral
- poohcrumbs

And Rielly's parents, apparently...

I stopped reading after "swallow".
- cabin

Good thing you didn't waste your time on the whole thing.

Good thing you didn't waste your time on the whole thing.
- Aetherial

Sometimes it's easier to comprehend a post if you read it backwards.

2more days till Martin's funeral
- poohcrumbs

wonder if the nhl brass will be on hand to view the game getting out of hand?

... and Kadri's?
- Delryk

And Rielly's family.

wonder if the nhl brass will be on hand to view the game getting out of hand?
- zazzle

Meh. We'll probably get fined when Marner knocks Stetcher out, Matthews knocks Horvat out, Nylander knocks Burrows out and Brown and Andersen stamp on both Sedin's heads.

Has Dorsett wussed out already?

the Vancouver game is going to either be a royal rumble or nothing at all, no in between!

the Vancouver game is going to either be a royal rumble or nothing at all, no in between!
- Lucas.Neilson

an early staged fight with martin vs. gudbranson, where martin dies, could defuse the whole thing.

the Vancouver game is going to either be a royal rumble or nothing at all, no in between!
- Lucas.Neilson

Well, it'll be the last game Martin ever plays, that's for sure.

Unless you're calling Gudbranson a liar?

the Vancouver game is going to either be a royal rumble or nothing at all, no in between!
- Lucas.Neilson

Sadly, the follow up games are usually quite anti-climactic. Maybe one tilt near the beginning of the game, then the refs keep rest under wraps.

an early staged fight with martin vs. gudbranson, where martin dies, could defuse the whole thing.
- Tumbleweed

the Vancouver game is going to either be a royal rumble or nothing at all, no in between!
- Lucas.Neilson

this is so yoda of you.

wonder if the nhl brass will be on hand to view the game getting out of hand?
- zazzle

Nah, it will be uneventful.

Except for canuck fans...theyll see every hit and minor play as "ha ha...take that Toronto!"

We'll be like "buddy relax, its just an icing whistle"

the Vancouver game is going to either be a royal rumble or nothing at all, no in between!
- Lucas.Neilson

Maybe an in between ....one fight and back to hockey business.
Nothing ever occurs in these "revenge" games.

Nah, it will be uneventful.

Except for canuck fans...theyll see every hit and minor play as "ha ha...take that Toronto!"

We'll be like "buddy relax, its just an icing whistle"
- Fakepartofme

"YEA BUT OUR GUY GOT TO THE PUCK FIRST! CLEARLY THAT 800 YEAR REBUILD ISN'T WORKING!"

Nah, it will be uneventful.

Except for canuck fans...theyll see every hit and minor play as "ha ha...take that Toronto!"

We'll be like "buddy relax, its just an icing whistle"
- Fakepartofme

I hope they trip on their tampon strings on their way to anger management class

"YEA BUT OUR GUY GOT TO THE PUCK FIRST! CLEARLY THAT 800 YEAR REBUILD ISN'T WORKING!"
- markmark

Year 801 is really when it kicks in.

Sometimes it's easier to comprehend a post if you read it backwards.
- cabin

I find Chinese much easier to understand backwards. I order a lot of stuff off the back page of the menu.