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BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 29 @ 10:47 PM ET
It is a horrible comparison, it's an outdated way of thinking, we know better now, marathoners might not be great sprinters like for 100m, but they can run a mile really fast. They just specialize because running a marathon is hard work. I know right? Who'd have thunk it?
- Wetbandit1



Reading comprehension: 5th grade level.

See, you have it backwards there, guy.

I'm not saying the MARATHON RUNNER will have a hard time running a mile, I'm saying the MILE RUNNER will have a hard time running a marathon, hence the 12 minute combine win does not = 24 minutes stopping and starting and slamming into other dudes going full-speed.

An outdated way of thinking? Let me guess.... you voted for Trump?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Nov 29 @ 10:48 PM ET
There's no competition going on. Either you see it like I do or you don't. I think of all the things he excells at his ENDURANCE IS HIS WEAKEST TRAIT and have said that is SAYING A LOT since the ONE FAULT I'M FINDING IN HIS GAME IS HIS ENDURANCE.

FFS

The kid looks more winded than the other guys, who honestly don't look all that winded. Much like Ristolainen looked very fatigued at the end of the last Nolan year and less so at the end of last year, I think Eichel and this is important:

EICHEL, having played in the USA Hockey program, which has made strides in the past decade but is still eons behind the Canadian program, and having played Hockey in College instead of minors, as well as learning how to pace yourself over a 60 minute game that you play a 1/3 of, stretched over an 82 game schedule leads me to believe, based off observation, he simply does not have the Endurance of his peers.

Do I need to write an essay? It's something that can be worked on once he learns how to pace himself, much like the guy running a mile vs the guy running a marathon comparison.

You put me in an air controlled environment, well-rested and with top of the line shoes, I can probably slam-dunk a basketball. Put me in a game and I'll probably get slam-dunked on before I even touch the ball.

Hence Combine results do not = Real life results.

Otherwise we would have never heard of a guy named Tom Brady.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Not another one, no.
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

Nov 29 @ 10:49 PM ET
There's no competition going on. Either you see it like I do or you don't. I think of all the things he excells at his ENDURANCE IS HIS WEAKEST TRAIT and have said that is SAYING A LOT since the ONE FAULT I'M FINDING IN HIS GAME IS HIS ENDURANCE.

FFS

The kid looks more winded than the other guys, who honestly don't look all that winded. Much like Ristolainen looked very fatigued at the end of the last Nolan year and less so at the end of last year, I think Eichel and this is important:

EICHEL, having played in the USA Hockey program, which has made strides in the past decade but is still eons behind the Canadian program, and having played Hockey in College instead of minors, as well as learning how to pace yourself over a 60 minute game that you play a 1/3 of, stretched over an 82 game schedule leads me to believe, based off observation, he simply does not have the Endurance of his peers.

Do I need to write an essay? It's something that can be worked on once he learns how to pace himself, much like the guy running a mile vs the guy running a marathon comparison.

You put me in an air controlled environment, well-rested and with top of the line shoes, I can probably slam-dunk a basketball. Put me in a game and I'll probably get slam-dunked on before I even touch the ball.

Hence Combine results do not = Real life results.

Otherwise we would have never heard of a guy named Tom Brady.

- BeadyEyedDouche


Who?
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 29 @ 10:50 PM ET
Who?
- doppelthat


Drafted in 7th round. Underwhelming combine results.

Not surprised you never heard of him.
doppelthat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 07.07.2012

Nov 29 @ 10:51 PM ET
Reading comprehension: 5th grade level.

See, you have it backwards there, guy.

I'm not saying the MARATHON RUNNER will have a hard time running a mile, I'm saying the MILE RUNNER will have a hard time running a marathon, hence the 12 minute combine win does not = 24 minutes stopping and starting and slamming into other dudes going full-speed.

An outdated way of thinking? Let me guess.... you voted for Trump?

- BeadyEyedDouche


Come on...no need to drag politics in this. That's a cheap jab and unnecessary for this conversation.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 29 @ 10:51 PM ET
Jack has looked gassed this period.
- PrinceChill


understandable
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 29 @ 10:52 PM ET
It is a horrible comparison, it's an outdated way of thinking, we know better now, marathoners might not be great sprinters like for 100m, but they can run a mile really fast. They just specialize because running a marathon is hard work. I know right? Who'd have thunk it?
- Wetbandit1



Hockeybuzz: Where WetBandit somehow managed to know all the facts you failed to learn and uses those facts to tell you you're wrong for stating literally the most subjective thing ever.

I know, it sucks ;_;
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Nov 29 @ 10:52 PM ET
Nice return by Eichel, good win Sabres
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 29 @ 10:53 PM ET
Come on...no need to drag politics in this. That's a cheap jab and unnecessary for this conversation.
- doppelthat


It would explain a lot.

But you are right.
PassionBucket16
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Schopp Sucks, NY
Joined: 12.26.2011

Nov 29 @ 10:53 PM ET
Good god this site is terrible.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 29 @ 10:54 PM ET
Good god this site is terrible.
- PassionBucket16

Do Tell
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 29 @ 10:55 PM ET
Do Tell
- SABRES 89


elipses work
Slapjackzack
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.02.2016

Nov 29 @ 10:57 PM ET
It was his first game back for cheese and rice... I would say scoring 2 points is pretty impressive.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:00 PM ET
It was his first game back for cheese and rice... I would say scoring 2 points is pretty impressive.
- Slapjackzack

not on this site it isn't.
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 29 @ 11:00 PM ET
It was his first game back for cheese and rice... I would say scoring 2 points is pretty impressive.
- Slapjackzack


No one said it wasn't?
Slapjackzack
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 08.02.2016

Nov 29 @ 11:16 PM ET
I hope I get a decent buck tomorrow. I've taken 3 shots so far 2 doe and I had long shot about 75 yards at a 8 point buck I hit a small brach and missed. Goodluck hunting Cabin.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Nov 29 @ 11:20 PM ET
Is it too early for?...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdknOwK2GgM
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:22 PM ET
Did you see that shift by larsson, three times on one shift, he moves to quick and loses the puck so much,it is frustrating
- Buffalo39



Yeah, he's obviously not PK88
But the kid can play in the league

His line has done pretty damn well this year overall,
and he's been a big part of that

Like I said before...
we aren't skilled enough yet to put him on the 4th line
But when we do,
Larsson will be one of the top 4th line centers in the whole league

Not some fringe NHLer like u claim
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:25 PM ET
Yeah, he's obviously not PK88
But the kid can play in the league

His line has done pretty damn well this year overall,
and he's been a big part of that

Like I said before...
we aren't skilled enough yet to put him on the 4th line
But when we do,
Larsson will be one of the top 4th line centers in the whole league

Not some fringe NHLer like u claim

- jdfitz77


He had a pretty lousy game tonight.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:25 PM ET
I have to say,fedun looks good.alot of poise.alot better then franson
- Buffalo39




I saw Franson on a list of top15 trade deadline targets
I'll take a 3rd for him
Maybe a 2nd since teams like to overpay for defensemen
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Nov 29 @ 11:26 PM ET
There's no competition going on. Either you see it like I do or you don't. I think of all the things he excells at his ENDURANCE IS HIS WEAKEST TRAIT and have said that is SAYING A LOT since the ONE FAULT I'M FINDING IN HIS GAME IS HIS ENDURANCE.

FFS

The kid looks more winded than the other guys, who honestly don't look all that winded. Much like Ristolainen looked very fatigued at the end of the last Nolan year and less so at the end of last year, I think Eichel and this is important:

EICHEL, having played in the USA Hockey program, which has made strides in the past decade but is still eons behind the Canadian program, and having played Hockey in College instead of minors, as well as learning how to pace yourself over a 60 minute game that you play a 1/3 of, stretched over an 82 game schedule leads me to believe, based off observation, he simply does not have the Endurance of his peers.

Do I need to write an essay? It's something that can be worked on once he learns how to pace himself, much like the guy running a mile vs the guy running a marathon comparison.

You put me in an air controlled environment, well-rested and with top of the line shoes, I can probably slam-dunk a basketball. Put me in a game and I'll probably get slam-dunked on before I even touch the ball.

Hence Combine results do not = Real life results.

Otherwise we would have never heard of a guy named Tom Brady.

- BeadyEyedDouche


So they do the combine in VR now? Cool. The combine is real life and in real life he was the best out of his peers at going the longest to failure. There are a number of reasons for that to be sure, like he hadn't played in a while, while some guys were coming off of playing 2 weeks before that. That's certainly going to have an effect on your performance.

You're saying all the above but ignoring last year where he played way better in the second half of the season. Sure he hit a bit of a wall around Christmas, but after that 5 or 6 day break he came back and was way better than before going at almost a PPG pace over the last half.

His defensive positioning is by far his worst trait, something he's actually not very good at, as well as faceoffs. Something else he's not good at. His endurance is amazing considering all the things you listed like not having played a long season before and considering the fact that he was a 19 year old kid going up against men in their 20's and 30's who were bigger and stronger than him.

I understand what you're saying, I'm saying I don't agree with it. At all. And unless you have a camera on the bench all game and that's literally all you watch how could you possibly say he's more out of breath than the other guys? A 12 second clip isn't going to tell you much, and if anything it will lead you in the wrong direction.
sippyd
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Some unreal areas in the suburbs of Detroit. Buffalo, being smaller, simply doesn't have that.-Prock, NY
Joined: 09.30.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:26 PM ET
I love Jack. and Okposo
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 29 @ 11:27 PM ET
I don't get Disco Dan's love affair with the Gionta/Larsson/Foligno line. They're (almost) literally out there every other shift.

Zero puck awareness until it hits their stick.

My personal favorite is the Foligno play: Skate to center and pin the puck against the bench boards for 30 seconds, then don't change lines.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Nov 29 @ 11:27 PM ET
He had a pretty lousy game tonight.
- sippyd



I agree
But overall, he's been a nice player for us

That line has played well for us this year...
and MANY nights they were our 2nd line

BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Nov 29 @ 11:27 PM ET
I saw Franson on a list of top15 trade deadline targets
I'll take a 3rd for him
Maybe a 2nd since teams like to overpay for defensemen

- jdfitz77




http://www.hockeybuzz.com...ble-Rentals-15-10/1/80959

was it this one?
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