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phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Nov 28 @ 9:54 PM ET
From what I've seen there are 4 centers tracking better than Jost in this draft. No superstars but lots of high end prospects
- CanuckDon


Gabriel Vilardi and Patrick look like good prospects, i dont see any others who would be better then Jost though.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 28 @ 9:54 PM ET
People forget it wasn't only Edler . After the night in Col when we lost Sutter and Edler , JB started icing an AHL roster . They never made any trades but instead accepted the tank and dressed Grenier Tryamkin McCann Gaunce Virtanen and other Comets
- VANTEL


I don't know... it wasn't like we ever had Sutter. He played only a few games between injuries. We survived Hammer being out with a bunch of other guys out... it seemed we were about to get a bit healthier and then Edler happened... it felt like total collapse.

I can see it being possible that Benning used that as an excuse to serve the owner to just embrace a tank for the remainder of the season... which fits what you are saying. Both are likely... Edler still being the turning point though.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 28 @ 9:56 PM ET
Agreed. When I suggested we take him at the draft it didn't go over very well though. Benning just wasn't listening to me I guess,
- Reubenkincade



So if he's that good then Avs can trade Duchene like they did O'Rielly to make room. Line up the trade proposals.
dshiddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canucks blogger in disguise., BC
Joined: 06.23.2008

Nov 28 @ 9:56 PM ET
This draft is weeeeaaakkkk. I hear and see. Not just low on top end talent. Lack of skilled players.
- manvanfan


This draft isn't weak lol. Who told you that?
It's deeper than last years.
TBH no drafts moving forward will be weak. There is so much talent coming up, and all the kids are so well coached, you won't have bad drafts or picks like Patrick White in the first round anymore.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 28 @ 9:56 PM ET
Gabriel Vilardi and Patrick look like good prospects, i dont see any others who would be better then Jost though.
- phyllee


Pretty frustrating to not be able to follow their development with the injuries... it may make the top 10 a little harder to figure out this season. When are they back?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 28 @ 9:57 PM ET
I don't know... it wasn't like we ever had Sutter. He played only a few games between injuries. We survived Hammer being out with a bunch of other guys out... it seemed we were about to get a bit healthier and then Edler happened... it felt like total collapse.

I can see it being possible that Benning used that as an excuse to serve the owner to just embrace a tank for the remainder of the season... which fits what you are saying. Both are likely... Edler still being the turning point though.

- boonerbuck



I don't think it will be as bad this time . Stecher Gudbrandson is better than Weber Bartowski
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Nov 28 @ 9:57 PM ET
Any Nickelback fans in the house?
- dshiddy

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 28 @ 9:58 PM ET
Vilardi, Patrick, Middlestad and Hischier...I think first overall is very much up in the air from what over read. There should be a lot of movement at the top. Vilardi and Patrick's injuries aren't helping
- CanuckDon

Those Centers will probably go at a higher position in the draft. I was reading an article on Hischier and it said he would have gone somewhere between 15-20 in last years draft. Sorry don't remember where I read it.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 28 @ 9:59 PM ET
I don't know... it wasn't like we ever had Sutter. He played only a few games between injuries. We survived Hammer being out with a bunch of other guys out... it seemed we were about to get a bit healthier and then Edler happened... it felt like total collapse.

I can see it being possible that Benning used that as an excuse to serve the owner to just embrace a tank for the remainder of the season... which fits what you are saying. Both are likely... Edler still being the turning point though.

- boonerbuck



And so we have arrived there again. Thanks Colorado for the high.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 28 @ 9:59 PM ET
Vilardi, Patrick, Middlestad and Hischier...I think first overall is very much up in the air from what over read. There should be a lot of movement at the top. Vilardi and Patrick's injuries aren't helping
- CanuckDon


Timothy Liljegren. He's most of the things Juolevi isn't and will compliment his style. Building from the back end has never been this franchises priority... I'm hoping JB continues to focus on the center and D positions, I know most people want offensive impact now but we wont see that out of this draft. We will see it from slow steady process of building.
phyllee
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 06.24.2014

Nov 28 @ 9:59 PM ET
Pretty frustrating to not be able to follow their development with the injuries... it may make the top 10 a little harder to figure out this season. When are they back?
- boonerbuck


Havent seen any updates on them, worst thing that can happen is Vilardi drops and if we dont win the lotto he would drop to us
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 28 @ 10:03 PM ET
People forget it wasn't only Edler . After the night in Col when we lost Sutter and Edler , JB started icing an AHL roster . They never made any trades but instead accepted the tank and dressed Grenier Tryamkin McCann Gaunce Virtanen and other Comets
- VANTEL


It wasn't only Edler, but his absence out of the lineup was easily the most statistically significant of all of the injuries (not even close). We lost Sutter much earlier in the year. he played only 20 games, While Edler played in 52. The 30 he missed did not go well, I expect that trend to continue for the next 4-6 weeks.
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 28 @ 10:05 PM ET
Pretty frustrating to not be able to follow their development with the injuries... it may make the top 10 a little harder to figure out this season. When are they back?
- boonerbuck



Yeah. Probably after World Junior tournament. But then we might become aware of other gems in the tournament. Is there a Laine type who might come to light?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 28 @ 10:06 PM ET
This draft isn't weak lol. Who told you that?
It's deeper than last years.
TBH no drafts moving forward will be weak. There is so much talent coming up, and all the kids are so well coached, you won't have bad drafts or picks like Patrick White in the first round anymore.

- dshiddy


We might not agree on much, but this is one. Young players are getting better, being trained earlier by better staff in better facilities.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 28 @ 10:10 PM ET
It wasn't only Edler, but his absence out of the lineup was easily the most statistically significant of all of the injuries (not even close). We lost Sutter much earlier in the year. he played only 20 games, While Edler played in 52. The 30 he missed did not go well, I expect that trend to continue for the next 4-6 weeks.
- neem55



They also brought back Hamhuis Higgins and a bunch of other sad sacks.

As much as Scooby hates Chaput , him and Megna have not looked bad. We also had Vrbata who packed it in. There was so much going wrong last year. It won't be as bad this time around
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 28 @ 10:11 PM ET
Those Centers will probably go at a higher position in the draft. I was reading an article on Hischier and it said he would have gone somewhere between 15-20 in last years draft. Sorry don't remember where I read it.
- manvanfan

I have seen multiple reports that Hishier is tracking better than Ehlers...admittedly I havent seen him play but he is having a big year. That's why this draft will be interesting because rankings are all over the map
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 28 @ 10:13 PM ET
They also brought back Hamhuis Higgins and a bunch of other sad sacks.

As much as Scooby hates Chaput , him and Megna have not looked bad. We also had Vrbata who packed it in. There was so much going wrong last year. It won't be as bad this time around

- VANTEL


Were'currently 5th from the bottom and just lost our best d-man, I respectfully disagree. I don't see this as a bad thing, should give JB the green light on making some deals happen.

I have personally liked Chaput too, he seems to not make many mistakes and creates turnovers. I haven't seen Megna yet, I missed a few games.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 28 @ 10:15 PM ET
Were 5th from the bottom and just lost our best d-man, I respectfully disagree. I have personally liked Chaput too, he seems to not make many mistakes and creates turnovers. I haven't seen Megna yet, I missed a few games.
- neem55


We have also picked up 11 out of 18 points in the last 9 games.

If we win our next game we move up to 18 th spot .
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 28 @ 10:17 PM ET
I have seen multiple reports that Hishier is tracking better than Ehlers...admittedly I havent seen him play but he is having a big year. That's why this draft will be interesting because rankings are all over the map
- CanuckDon

A good read. Was at the start of the season though
http://www.tsn.ca/mckenzi...an-patrick-draft-1.567410
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Nov 28 @ 10:18 PM ET
I don't think it will be as bad this time . Stecher Gudbrandson is better than Weber Bartowski
- VANTEL


Sbisa?
Nuck4U
Vancouver Canucks
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2016

Nov 28 @ 10:20 PM ET
Sbisa?
- VanHockeyGuy


He gave up his pizza delivery job.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Nov 28 @ 10:20 PM ET
We have also picked up 11 out of 18 points in the last 9 games.
- VANTEL


With Edler in the lineup. I know you, like many on here, want to hold onto playoff/bubble team aspirations but we don't have depth on D. I will enjoy the kids on D getting the shot at lots of icetime, but I don't expect much more than .500 hockey
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

Nov 28 @ 10:23 PM ET
This draft is weeeeaaakkkk. I hear and see. Not just low on top end talent. Lack of skilled players.
- manvanfan

There are still some solid centers avail in the top 5 that are looking better than Jost.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Nov 28 @ 10:23 PM ET
With Edler in the lineup. I know you, like many on here, want to hold onto playoff/bubble team aspirations but we don't have depth on D. I will enjoy the kids on D getting the shot at lots of icetime, but I don't expect much more than .500 hockey
- neem55



Even with Edler in the lineup we were on course for .500.

I love the fact that we are getting away for him to see what we have. I Love the sink or swim experience they are going to encounter. This is a perfect year to experiment.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Nov 28 @ 10:26 PM ET
I don't think it will be as bad this time . Stecher Gudbrandson is better than Weber Bartowski
- VANTEL


We are deeper and healthier this season...at this point.
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