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BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 28 @ 3:52 PM ET
I'm not getting this... I don't believe have made a poor personnel choice/move since he's been around...

and someone conned the Sharks out of two 2nd rounders (I believe that's true) and a 4th for Polak, Spalling and Reimer...


- BorjeFan4Ever


the only move I've really not understood was claiming Smith off waivers... when the Leafs have Byron Froese with the Marlies.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 28 @ 3:53 PM ET
I'm not getting this... I don't believe have made a poor personnel choice/move since he's been around...

and someone conned the Sharks out of two 2nd rounders (I believe that's true) and a 4th for Polak, Spalling and Reimer...


- BorjeFan4Ever

He traded down in the 2015 draft.

Philly used the pick to take Konecny - who is 7th in rookie scoring, while Dermott remains a question mark and Bracco remains a midget.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 28 @ 3:53 PM ET
It was the Islanders and Detroit that had huge discrepancies from home and away stats. They were very "generous" on hits and takeaways for the home team.
- LeafMan



I used to go to quite a few Sharks games when I lived in the Bay Area... the stats the "Shark Tank" were pretty poor. Even shots on goal was questionable.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 28 @ 3:54 PM ET
the only move I've really not understood was claiming Smith off waivers... when the Leafs have Byron Froese with the Marlies.
- BorjeFan4Ever



Ben Smith is winning the Selke! That's why!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 28 @ 3:54 PM ET
It was the Islanders and Detroit that had huge discrepancies from home and away stats. They were very "generous" on hits and takeaways for the home team.
- LeafMan

Thanks.

As I said, you can no longer look at those stats - which I'm sure was intentional.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 28 @ 3:55 PM ET
He traded down in the 2015 draft.

Philly used the pick to take Konecny - who is 7th in rookie scoring, while Dermott remains a question mark and Bracco remains a midget.

- Atomic Wedgie



Meh
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 28 @ 3:55 PM ET
I used to go to quite a few Sharks games when I lived in the Bay Area... the stats the "Shark Tank" were pretty poor. Even shots on goal was questionable.
- BorjeFan4Ever

In every arena, they pay kids $50 to do it.

Until the NHL starts taking those stats seriously, I will not be taking those stats seriously.
Lucas Neilson
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Atlantic Division Blogger, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Nov 28 @ 3:56 PM ET
Meh
- Steven_Seagull

konecny looks good now I admit.

wel see how the other 2 shake out.

Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 28 @ 3:57 PM ET
konecny looks good now I admit.

wel see how the other 2 shake out.

- Lucas.Neilson



I stand by my earlier "meh."
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Nov 28 @ 3:57 PM ET
He traded down in the 2015 draft.

Philly used the pick to take Konecny - who is 7th in rookie scoring, while Dermott remains a question mark and Bracco remains a midget.

- Atomic Wedgie


so we're worked up about a guy drafted in 2015 (yup 19 months ago) who hasn't made it to the NHL yet as a defenseman... and a kid who is ripping up the OHL in his second year there who we're worried about because he's too small.

I don't know about you... but the last guy who was too small is doing okay.. and I don't think Bracco has to make the NHL this year
either...

just me
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
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Nov 28 @ 3:58 PM ET
Ben Smith is winning the Selke! That's why!
- Steven_Seagull



I didn't know that! Thanks
LeafMan
Location: A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven
Joined: 05.20.2007

Nov 28 @ 4:02 PM ET
Thanks.

As I said, you can no longer look at those stats - which I'm sure was intentional.

- Atomic Wedgie

I remember one game in Detroit, Datsyuk was credited with 7 takeaways, he gave the puck away several times including the game winner in OT, he was credited with 0 giveaways in the game, it was quite amusing.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Nov 28 @ 4:06 PM ET
so we're worked up about a guy drafted in 2015 (yup 19 months ago) who hasn't made it to the NHL yet as a defenseman... and a kid who is ripping up the OHL in his second year there who we're worried about because he's too small.

I don't know about you... but the last guy who was too small is doing okay.. and I don't think Bracco has to make the NHL this year
either...

just me

- BorjeFan4Ever

C'mon, Borje, don't be such an arsehole.

The Leafs have 3 of the top 5 rookie scorers. And then another guy at 15.

We haven't traded away our 1st round draft pick since 2010.

We have an actual building plan - and we haven't deviated from it.

The sushi is fresh, and I won a free jersey at the home opener.

Are you really giving me grief because I'm complaining about the Assistant GM?

For franks sakes, Borje, you gotta let me complain about something!!!!!!!!!!!
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 28 @ 4:11 PM ET
If a GM is interested in Holland.

It's because he's thinking about going to the actual country and got all confused.

- Scabeh



Like "Jeff Finger" confused?


*Leafs trade Holland + Airfare for Hamilton*
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 28 @ 4:12 PM ET
the only move I've really not understood was claiming Smith off waivers... when the Leafs have Byron Froese with the Marlies.
- BorjeFan4Ever



Keefe wouldn't let him go.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Nov 28 @ 4:14 PM ET
C'mon, Borje, don't be such an arsehole.

The Leafs have 3 of the top 5 rookie scorers. And then another guy at 15.

We haven't traded away our 1st round draft pick since 2010.

We have an actual building plan - and we haven't deviated from it.

The sushi is fresh, and I won a free jersey at the home opener.

Are you really giving me grief because I'm complaining about the Assistant GM?

For franks sakes, Borje, you gotta let me complain about something!!!!!!!!!!!

- Atomic Wedgie


Tanner's thread attracts all kinds....now hitting has zero consequences in the NHL...hmmm. If a body check affects you in any way...you shouldn't be in the NHL..


Gotta love it.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Nov 28 @ 4:15 PM ET
hi folks
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 28 @ 4:16 PM ET
hi folks
- Dozzer



Oh, Jesus Christ. Shut down the thread!
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Nov 28 @ 4:17 PM ET
Oh, Jesus Christ. Shut down the thread!
- Steven_Seagull


#feelthelove
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 28 @ 4:19 PM ET
#feelthelove
- Dozzer



Not in the face.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Nov 28 @ 4:20 PM ET
Not in the face.
- Steven_Seagull


i hear that often

or i may be paraphrasing

i hear "that costs more" often
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 28 @ 4:22 PM ET
i hear that often

or i may be paraphrasing

i hear "that costs more" often

- Dozzer



Well it's true. Usually an extra $200. Depending on the Gull girl.
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

Nov 28 @ 4:25 PM ET
The one thing I'm very interested in is the really advanced tech they screwed around with at the all-star game - sewing chips in the jerseys so they can monitor speed and positioning.

I think that poop will be very interesting once they get it up and running - and will launch a huge Hockeybuzz debate as to whether player A skating X amount per game is better or worse than player B, who skates X-100 meters.

- Atomic Wedgie


They're using it in the NFL now, and it's really interesting. The RedZone Channel is always showing data on who ran the fastest in a scoring play (in mph) and things like that. I imagine the team and league are doing MUCH more complex things with the data behind the scenes. It's going to be really interesting in the NHL when it starts being used.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Nov 28 @ 4:27 PM ET
They're using it in the NFL now, and it's really interesting. The RedZone Channel is always showing data on who ran the fastest in a scoring play (in mph) and things like that. I imagine the team and league are doing MUCH more complex things with the data behind the scenes. It's going to be really interesting in the NHL when it starts being used.
- SolidGoldBricks


MLB too. They 'statcast' for example an outfielder's average and peak speeds in getting to a ball. They can also determine the efficiency of the route run.
SolidGoldBricks
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Robidas Island, MI
Joined: 10.30.2013

Nov 28 @ 4:30 PM ET
MLB too. They 'statcast' for example an outfielder's average and peak speeds in getting to a ball. They can also determine the efficiency of the route run.
- 1979AD


Right, right. I forgot about that. It's really interesting stuff!
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