This wouldn't be the first time that I or a colleague have disagreed with the OWL, as good a resource as it is. I still think your example wasn't the same thing, even if I was wrong in saying that 'one of the boxes is open' was wrong. Though, I dispute that it was wrong, because I would write 'one of the boxes are open' because I'd think that boxes being plural.......
Like I said: extremely pedantic. You could go either way with this one, however, in my original point, I was and am still correct. - James_Tanner
Why would I change? I just had some.....guy...... challenge me on the one thing I am actually an expert at, and I totally destroyed him while having an absolute blast.
I mean, I know I shouldn't engage with people who don't even try to pretend they aren't trolling me, but whatever, this is the part of the evening where I'd usually have a coffee and three cigarettes, so you know, gotta do something.....
Anyways, kids are in bed so I'll see all of y'all tomorrow.
Why would I change? I just had some.....guy...... challenge me on the one thing I am actually an expert at, and I totally destroyed him while having an absolute blast.
I mean, I know I shouldn't engage with people who don't even try to pretend they aren't trolling me, but whatever, this is the part of the evening where I'd usually have a coffee and three cigarettes, so you know, gotta do something.....
Anyways, kids are in bed so I'll see all of y'all tomorrow. - James_Tanner
A) You're assuming that the "....guy...." in question is not an expert; despitethe claims of Highlanderm there can be more than one.
B) The subject of the sentence was an individual box, therefore "is" and not "are" is the correct word to use, regardless of whether or not you agree. I trust that in becoming an "expert" you learned the difference between fact and opinion?
C) Being learned in a particular subject does not make you correct all of the time. I have a doctorate in chemistry, but to assume that I therefore know all chemistry is both arrogant and foolish - And I've only been accused of the former thus far in life.
Nah, my wife is an engineer, and thus I've spent much of my life "interacting" with her engineer colleagues... explains all of the previous posts - lumlums
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Nov 28 @ 10:04 PM ET
James it is ironic. When you are coached in hockey they say I want a minimum of 30 shots on goal or ten a period. Minimum. All these things are recogoonized by coaches but somehow they do not always correlate to player choices.
Hitchcock's game plan is rather simple but effective. Have the puck in their zone longer. Cycle low pass to the points, create havoc in front of the net.
Look at the pk for the Blues. They went from being offensively aggressive to aggressive and rather than trying to force the issue for goals make the simple clear and get a change. The longer pk is on the ice the more tired they get the more likely the other team scores and the less aggressive you can be.
Time and soace, take it away or create it. Create it off the cycle by giving the dman time and soace for a shot. More could be done though.
It took me a while to appreciate the value of a player like Berglund. He might not score regularly but when he is on the ice the puck tends to be in the offensive zone and ends usually with the goalie freezing the puck and sometimes a goal.
A) You're assuming that the "....guy...." in question is not an expert; despitethe claims of Highlanderm there can be more than one.
B) The subject of the sentence was an individual box, therefore "is" and not "are" is the correct word to use, regardless of whether or not you agree. I trust that in becoming an "expert" you learned the difference between fact and opinion?
C) Being learned in a particular subject does not make you correct all of the time. I have a doctorate in chemistry, but to assume that I therefore know all chemistry is both arrogant and foolish - And I've only been accused of the former thus far in life. - lumlums
If your talking about the first example
For the record, i really wouldn't consider myself an expert, I'm just giving that guy the level of discourse he deserves. I really wouldn't claim expertise as a reason for winning the argument either, at least not my own. I actually do enjoy discussing grammar however.
If your talking about the first example
For the record, i really wouldn't consider myself an expert, I'm just giving that guy the level of discourse he deserves. I really wouldn't claim expertise as a reason for winning the argument either, at least not my own. I actually do enjoy discussing grammar however. - James_Tanner
And yet you really do. Regardless of the other guy's level, you make an assumption and go from there.
As for everything else, you absolutely use your "expertize" as a way to try and elevate yourself above the rest, and use your apparently poor appreciation of grammar as a way of creating conflict.
And yet you really do. Regardless of hte other guy's level, you make an assumption and go from there.
As for everything else, you absolutely use your "expertize" as a way to try and elevate yourself above the rest, and use you apparently poor appreciation of grammar as a way of creating conflict.
Just saying, of course... - lumlums
And yet aren't you the guy who asked for my autograph? Jesus, I don't know where some of these people come from.
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Nov 29 @ 9:40 AM ET
Nah, my wife is an engineer, and thus I've spent much of my life "interacting" with her engineer colleagues... explains all of the previous posts - lumlums
They are experts in all things and have nothing but deep scorn for anything that challenges the way they look at things.
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Nov 29 @ 11:25 AM ET
While this is a good old college try, you are incorrect.
The subject of the sentence is "things" not "one." One isn't even a noun in this case. Numbers are rarely ever nouns because they can't be modified. In this case, the word "one" certainly isn't a noun or the subject. The subject is Things and I was originally correct.
Even your 'same sentence structure' example was off, because instead of your example, the same thing would actually be "One of the two boxes are open." And also, in your example, BOXES is clearly the noun and again, it's plural, necessitating the use of are.
When the noun is a plural, you use are.
However, full credit for the attempt and not being rude about it. This is extremely pedantic, I should point out, and you aren't likely to be corrected unless you're in a writing course or some whacked out internet troll attempts to show you up. - James_Tanner
I'll leave it to one of the great minds of our times to demonstrate just how wrong you are, Mr. Tanner:
This wouldn't be the first time that I or a colleague have disagreed with the OWL, as good a resource as it is. I still think your example wasn't the same thing, even if I was wrong in saying that 'one of the boxes is open' was wrong. Though, I dispute that it was wrong, because I would write 'one of the boxes are open' because I'd think that boxes being plural.......
Like I said: extremely pedantic. You could go either way with this one, however, in my original point, I was and am still correct. - James_Tanner
What is open? One box. Singular
One of two things is happening. What is happening? One thing. Two possibilities, but only one is happening. Again, singular.
One of two things is happening. What is happening? One thing. Two possibilities, but only one is happening. Again, singular. - PancakesPenner
I have seen people - like we're talking extreme grammar nerds - and I'm talking taking it further than most people could probably imagine - have this exact same argument and not come to a conclusion.
I still say that if you don't know which option your choosing, there are two options and 'are' is proper. (Also, to my ear, sounds better). And that your example was actually different. However, you're free to have your opinion.
I have seen people - like we're talking extreme grammar nerds - and I'm talking taking it further than most people could probably imagine - have this exact same argument and not come to a conclusion.
I still say that if you don't know which option your choosing, there are two options and 'are' is proper. (Also, to my ear, sounds better). And that your example was actually different. However, you're free to have your opinion. - James_Tanner
Tanner I just want to say that I think of all the valid reasons to criticize you, slamming your grammar is the absolute dumbest, regardless of your qualifications. No one should be subjected to this much bullpoop
But really man, after the guy called you out so many times on it?
Tanner I just want to say that I think of all the valid reasons to criticize you, slamming your grammar is the absolute dumbest, regardless of your qualifications. No one should be subjected to this much bullpoop
But really man, after the guy called you out so many times on it? - Johnotron
That's actually hilarious and I wish I could say it was on purpose, but I guess it just goes to show you how much I valued that guys criticisms.
