Schenn was healthy the entire camp and for all the games he missed. He played more than anyone in preseason to prep for the whopping 5 days he couldn't play. There was no reason for him to start slow, and that excuse wears out quick when it's already game 20 for him and he's been one of the worst ES forwards on the team, and a drag on that top line. He played well last game in softer bottom 6 minutes; Raffl played well in his line 1 place; and it made the team better all-around. Hopefully he continues to play well down there, so the team benefits.

Giroux, and Voracek to a lesser extent, have years of producing and carrying the team offensively. Despite their recent slumps, they're both still among the top 25 or so in scoring, and Voracek had a very strong game against the Flames.

Schenn has been a wildly inconsistent player for 5 seasons now. Up and down, over and again. He's gotten prime usage on scoring lines and on the powerplay. He signed a new contract that makes him the 3rd highest paid forward, and this season has been more of the same, up and down play.

There's a reasonable expectation that both Giroux and Voracek will come around and start producing again at high levels. There's no reason to suspect Schenn will be anything other than the streaky, inconsistent guy he has been for 5 seasons.

That's why people bring up Schenn in a negative light. No, he's not the only or biggest issue. But when Giroux and Voracek start producing again, does Schenn find consistency? That's why people give a break to Giroux or Voracek. They have earned it because they have done it for years with their play.

The only thing Schenn has done is shown flashes and had his level of play go up and down like a see saw. Where Giroux and Voracek spent years driving play and creating offense, Schenn was more often a passenger. Need to make a bigger impact with his new contract.
- Jsaquella

It doesn't matter what Giroux and Voracek have done a year ago or five years ago. They are paid and expected to carry the team every night right now and every game moving forward.

This is just an example of who gets a free pass and who doesn't. Perfect example, Couturier has been a great defensive forward who can chip in offensively. He hasn't done this at all this year but it's fine because he has in years past. The Konecny fight against the Rangers that cost us a PP. Even though he has no history in the NHL, he's a young and exciting fresh face. The fight is a news story. The kid is beloved. I've seen players dating back to the enforcer days do the same thing and fans have bashed the likes of a Riley Cote for doing the same thing.

There is a lot of double standard here. I'm just happy Dale Weise finally got that monkey off his back so we can put the focus of blame elsewhere.

Schenn was healthy the entire camp and for all the games he missed. He played more than anyone in preseason to prep for the whopping 5 days he couldn't play. There was no reason for him to start slow, and that excuse wears out quick when it's already game 20 for him and he's been one of the worst ES forwards on the team, and a drag on that top line. He played well last game in softer bottom 6 minutes; Raffl played well in his line 1 place; and it made the team better all-around. Hopefully he continues to play well down there, so the team benefits.
- Mononoke

He's one freakin player on a team where more than half of the group have to pick up their play, most notably our captain. You're not teaching anyone anything.

He's one freakin player on a team where more than half of the group have to pick up their play, most notably our captain. You're not teaching anyone anything.
- SuperSchennBros

You tell em

I feel bad for Carson Wentz. For Crissakes Howie, get the kid some linemen and receivers! Oh, and some cornerbacks would be nice too.

On the Flyers:
All in all I'm mildly disappointed so far this season. On the plus side, I love watching how quickly Provorov and Konecny are developing and I think vets like Simmer, Gudas and Manning are having excellent seasons. Ghost I can somewhat excuse as a lot of very talented players seem to struggle in their second NHL season, I think he will come around and be fine.

On the other hand, I'm very disappointed in the play of vets like Giroux and Streit and to a lesser extent, Del Zotto, AMac and Weise. The goalies, for the most part, have been atrocious and their early season play is simply inexcusable. The rest of the squad has pretty much performed to my expectations. We rip guys like VdV, but they are what they are and it's not their fault that they aren't producing more.

When it comes to management and coaching, it's a mixed review moreso re the coach. I like Hak's system a lot, and I understand to some degree the scratches and benching of some of the "better" players. What I don't understand is why some players (Streit in particular stands out) are allowed to mess up time and time again, while others make one or 2 miscues and they're out of the lineup. I also think he needs to make better use of his timeout and be a bit more patient with some of his line combos. When it comes to the GM, I'm fully on board with rebuilding from within, I'd just like to see him try and add one experienced veteran that can play in the top 9 and can add some leadership and grit to the lineup. Losing guys like Briere and Timonen over the last couple of years has hurt, perhaps more off the ice than on, and trying to get a guy like that wouldn't be a bad idea.