Actually? Or just a guess?
- BetterCallSaul

Well unless were landing Gio or Brodie I don't see where the shutdown defensemen comes from.

Jokipakka is a big presence and I think Leivo is a valued commodity. And with Corrado able to replace the lost depth in Jokipakka I think it's a low risk trade.
He could be a Polak replacement just younger.

Id add Hunwick or Marincin but I think Leivo would have to turn into Brown to keep them interested.
Jokipakka could slot in anywhere from 5-7 and a clear upgrade over whatever it is that we have going on.

I mean I'd love for Brodie to come back our way but scared of the costs at this point.

Well, just as long as you put it back again, it's all good with me




(frank), so this is what it feels like to be the Gull...?
- lumlums

Feels nasty don't it?

Well, just as long as you put it back again, it's all good with me




(frank), so this is what it feels like to be the Gull...?
- lumlums

You wish, hon...



Jerk

As do I, but I feel like it's a lot of relatively useless calories - I'd much rather have fruit or a protein shake to start the day...
- lumlums

Sparks

Sparks
- AdamFrench

Probably the most trouble he's ever been in. Seems like a good kid.

Jarrvis!

That's too many weiners. Probably a Bat Signal for Weirdoh.
- BetterCallSaul

Gotta be honest, I typically go with the polish or italian rather than the dog.

Either way, sauerkraut and a good mustard is a must
- lumlums

Nothing wrong with rotting cabbage.

Probably the most trouble he's ever been in. Seems like a good kid.
- BetterCallSaul

Defending disabled people with sexist language.... Where did we go wrong with him?

Probably the most trouble he's ever been in. Seems like a good kid.
- BetterCallSaul

I've never seen so many 20+ year olds angry on behalf of the collective arm strength of 13 year old girls.

I've never seen so many 20+ year olds angry on behalf of the collective arm strength of 13 year old girls.
- AdamFrench

this reminds me of some posters on here (not going to name names) saying that Marner had "girl-like handgrip strength" (combine results) and that was a proof he should not be on the team this year since too weak (still).

this reminds me of some posters on here (not going to name names) saying that Marner had "girl-like handgrip strength" (combine results) and that was a proof he should not be on the team this year since too weak (still).
- MaximusAurelius

Almost to suggest adolescent females aren't capable of developing the strength an adult can? The nerve of science being right.

Defending disabled people with sexist language.... Where did we go wrong with him?
- TheMussel

Trevor Kidd pattern pads

Trevor Kidd pattern pads
- burn

I knew that first game shutout would completely go to his head.

Trevor Kidd pattern pads
- burn

Almost to suggest adolescent females aren't capable of developing the strength an adult can? The nerve of science being right.
- BetterCallSaul

If she drinks enough muscle milk, I think anybody can be anything.

Sparks
- AdamFrench

The NHL has adopted the education systems method of punishment.

Standing up for yourself or others is worse than being the aggressor/bully.

Trevor Kidd pattern pads
- burn

He had an alright mask. As a kid I thought it was cool.

He had an alright mask. As a kid I thought it was cool.
- Aaron_85

May I ask is dougie Hamilton really worth the money he's getting? I'm asking cuz I don't know. I'd hate to see leafs give kadri away in deal for Hamilton. Wouldn't we(leafs). Be better off riding out season and letting more contracts come off the books plus expansion will serve up a player to Vegas and then and only then hope to sign free agent(s)? Please submit your opinions and thank you for your input.

May I ask is dougie Hamilton really worth the money he's getting? I'm asking cuz I don't know. I'd hate to see leafs give kadri away in deal for Hamilton. Wouldn't we(leafs). Be better off riding out season and letting more contracts come off the books plus expansion will serve up a player to Vegas and then and only then hope to sign free agent(s)? Please submit your opinions and thank you for your input.
- BreathLeafs2015

The answer is.... depends.

May I ask is dougie Hamilton really worth the money he's getting? I'm asking cuz I don't know. I'd hate to see leafs give kadri away in deal for Hamilton. Wouldn't we(leafs). Be better off riding out season and letting more contracts come off the books plus expansion will serve up a player to Vegas and then and only then hope to sign free agent(s)? Please submit your opinions and thank you for your input.
- BreathLeafs2015

I would assume any trade the management decides on would factor in the expansion draft and who it leaves exposed vs. who is protected.

May I ask is dougie Hamilton really worth the money he's getting? I'm asking cuz I don't know. I'd hate to see leafs give kadri away in deal for Hamilton. Wouldn't we(leafs). Be better off riding out season and letting more contracts come off the books plus expansion will serve up a player to Vegas and then and only then hope to sign free agent(s)? Please submit your opinions and thank you for your input.
- BreathLeafs2015

No. Acquiring core assets in FA is something that is so rarely done - and so rarely works out for the Leafs - that they should avoid it at all costs.

The thing with the Leafs is that the prospect pool is front loaded. Beyond Neilson and Dermott (who both may be 2 or more years away), its woefully thin on the back end.

Adding a top 4 defenseman via trade is something that is worth doing, even if it costs a forward we don't want to lose. The Leafs are far more easily able to replace that from within, and it's crystal clear that the defense needs some bolstering.


The suggestion you make that does make a lot of sense is the one where they wait for the expansion draft to be over before seeking out a trade. As it is, they have to protect Rielly, Gardiner, Carrick and possibly Zaitsev (who may or may not be safe under the 1st/2nd year pro rules - not sure). Acquiring Hamilton (for example) means they have to expose one of those 4, likely Gardiner or Carrick, even if they do the 4 forwards, 4 dman and one goalie option.

I'm glad brighter hockey minds than I have to make those decisions

What I don't get is if Hamilton is a big, young, 1st round, right handed shooting Dman on a good contract, why would Calgary trade him?

No. Acquiring core assets in FA is something that is so rarely done - and so rarely works out for the Leafs - that they should avoid it at all costs.

The thing with the Leafs is that the prospect pool is front loaded. Beyond Neilson and Dermott (who both may be 2 or more years away), its woefully thin on the back end.

Adding a top 4 defenseman via trade is something that is worth doing, even if it costs a forward we don't want to lose. The Leafs are far more easily able to replace that from within, and it's crystal clear that the defense needs some bolstering.


The suggestion you make that does make a lot of sense is the one where they wait for the expansion draft to be over before seeking out a trade. As it is, they have to protect Rielly, Gardiner, Carrick and possibly Zaitsev (who may or may not be safe under the 1st/2nd year pro rules - not sure). Acquiring Hamilton (for example) means they have to expose one of those 4, likely Gardiner or Carrick, even if they do the 4 forwards, 4 dman and one goalie option.

I'm glad brighter hockey minds than I have to make those decisions
- WingmanWillie

Thank you--well explained