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WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 28 @ 12:49 PM ET
He's not going to the media, as a pro player it's part of his responsibility to do interviews. They're going to the team asking if he can be interviewed. He's just a kid giving honest answers because he probably doesn't know a whole bunch about managements plans. He's correct in saying at his point it's just his responsibility to simply play.
- LeftCoaster


I think if thats the case, he should simply say he cannot comment as he doesnt know. He did say something to that affect, but with a tone that undermines the competency of the front office. I agree with Codes in that the way JV has made his comments doesnt come across well and I dont accept the youth/inexperience answer as kids start doing interviews in Jr B these days. He is smarter than that IMO
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 28 @ 12:50 PM ET
The Canucks should bury him in Utica for the year and reassess in the summer. No point trading him when his value is so low. Hopefully he learns to be a pro the next few months. the most puzzling thing about Jake's year is he doesn't hit anymore. He added 15 pounds, aged a year and he has completely abandoned all physicality. Is he injured? scared? What is going on with this kid mentally is the real question.
- CanuckDon


I don't even know if "Bury" should be the right word as I genuinely think he needs to learn and develop and mature in Utica. Bury just seems to have a negative meaning where as he should be in VAN but is being punished in Utica. I think he genuinely does not deserve to be playing in the NHL based on how he is performing.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 28 @ 12:51 PM ET
I think if thats the case, he should simply say he cannot comment as he doesnt know. He did say something to that affect, but with a tone that undermines the competency of the front office. I agree with Codes in that the way JV has made his comments doesnt come across well and I dont accept the youth/inexperience answer as kids start doing interviews in Jr B these days. He is smarter than that IMO
- WhiteLie




He has to realize that when he has 0 goals. 3 assists in 19 AHL games, they aren't lining up to interview him because of his amazing play. They CLEARLY want dirt, and clearly want a story.
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Nov 28 @ 12:52 PM ET
He'll learn to deal with the media better when he matures as a person and a player/
- LeftCoaster

Apparently we should be more concerned, Lefty.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 28 @ 12:57 PM ET
I don't even know if "Bury" should be the right word as I genuinely think he needs to learn and develop and mature in Utica. Bury just seems to have a negative meaning where as he should be in VAN but is being punished in Utica. I think he genuinely does not deserve to be playing in the NHL based on how he is performing.
- Codes1087

When I said "bury" I just mean long term. Instead of giving Jake the message that he will be back soon they should tell him he is their indefinitely until he has consistency in his game.
dshiddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canucks blogger in disguise., BC
Joined: 06.23.2008

Nov 28 @ 12:58 PM ET
Can Virtanen play in world juniors? It says under 20 and he's 20. Does that mean 20 and under or 19 and under?
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 28 @ 1:00 PM ET
When I said "bury" I just mean long term. Instead of giving Jake the message that he will be back soon they should tell him he is their indefinitely until he has consistency in his game.
- CanuckDon


Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

Nov 28 @ 1:01 PM ET
Can Virtanen play in world juniors? It says under 20 and he's 20. Does that mean 20 and under or 19 and under?
- dshiddy


I believe he is too old.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 28 @ 1:01 PM ET
Can Virtanen play in world juniors? It says under 20 and he's 20. Does that mean 20 and under or 19 and under?
- dshiddy

19 and under...although, not sure they would want him anyways
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Nov 28 @ 1:01 PM ET


He has to realize that when he has 0 goals. 3 assists in 19 AHL games, they aren't lining up to interview him because of his amazing play. They CLEARLY want dirt, and clearly want a story.

- Codes1087


I cant remember exactly, but somewhere around his Team Canada loan, he sent out a social media message kinda trolling people criticizing his performance. That, with these recent interviews, makes me think he needs to grow up a fair amount
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
I cant remember exactly, but somewhere around his Team Canada loan, he sent out a social media message kinda trolling people criticizing his performance. That, with these recent interviews, makes me think he needs to grow up a fair amount
- WhiteLie

You mean the tweet that he sent out on Jan 4th that said "Proud Canadian"?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 28 @ 1:07 PM ET
I think if thats the case, he should simply say he cannot comment as he doesnt know. He did say something to that affect, but with a tone that undermines the competency of the front office. I agree with Codes in that the way JV has made his comments doesnt come across well and I dont accept the youth/inexperience answer as kids start doing interviews in Jr B these days. He is smarter than that IMO
- WhiteLie

This is a learned behaviour and if the club wants him to be more media savvy, then they should put the time and effort into their youth and train them. He's dealing with seasoned veterans in the media, something he is not.

The NHL is not as corporate as some of you might think, as a general statement. If some of you owned a business I certainly wouldn't want to work for you! The guys a (frank)in kid who needs to learn and he needs guidance.

Don't kid yourselves, the NHL is an old boys club, I've played with a number of guys who made the show, it's certainly not like working for a major corporation where they put the time and effort into forming a long term employee.

I think you guys need to get out of his kitchen and leave the kid alone.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Nov 28 @ 1:08 PM ET
WD starts every OT with Sutter-Daniel-Hutton, the twins definitely look better when they have someone speedy with them to take their passes when they get outpaced.
- NorthNuck

Van is actually decent in overtime. Once Hansen is back like to see a shuffle.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Nov 28 @ 1:19 PM ET
This is a learned behaviour and if the club wants him to be more media savvy, then they should put the time and effort into their youth and train them. He's dealing with seasoned veterans in the media, something he is not.

The NHL is not as corporate as some of you might think, as a general statement. If some of you owned a business I certainly wouldn't want to work for you! The guys a (frank)in kid who needs to learn and he needs guidance.

Don't kid yourselves, the NHL is an old boys club, I've played with a number of guys who made the show, it's certainly not like working for a major corporation where they put the time and effort into forming a long term employee.

I think you guys need to get out of his kitchen and leave the kid alone.

- LeftCoaster

if only he could be as media savvy as jim benning!
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:21 PM ET
if only he could be as media savvy as jim benning!
- RealityChecker

The blind leading the blind in terms of media training
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Nov 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
This is a learned behaviour and if the club wants him to be more media savvy, then they should put the time and effort into their youth and train them. He's dealing with seasoned veterans in the media, something he is not.

The NHL is not as corporate as some of you might think, as a general statement. If some of you owned a business I certainly wouldn't want to work for you! The guys a (frank)in kid who needs to learn and he needs guidance.

Don't kid yourselves, the NHL is an old boys club, I've played with a number of guys who made the show, it's certainly not like working for a major corporation where they put the time and effort into forming a long term employee.

I think you guys need to get out of his kitchen and leave the kid alone.

- LeftCoaster


He's also been groomed and trained by agents long before he was drafted. I followed Colton Sissons (since his mother and I worked closely together) since he was drafted from bantam and played 3 years in Kelowna, 2 as the Captain, he was interviewed quite frequently and never had an issue with making any sort of comments that could be taken the wrong way.

You can't use the excuse that he needs to learn and get guidance, he's not 18, he's 20 and should be fully capable of giving an interview saying nothing. The fact of the matter is, the NHL can't afford loose cannons running their mouths, he needs to shut up, get over himself and (frank)ing play hockey or find another career.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
if only he could be as media savvy as jim benning!
- RealityChecker

(frank) it's embarrassing hey, this is exactly what you wouldn't see in the corporate world. I've even had media training from Shell Canada because I may of, at the time, had to answer government and media questions on a flaring event that happened.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Nov 28 @ 1:22 PM ET
if only he could be as media savvy as jim benning!
- RealityChecker


"Jake, how do you feel about your assignment to Utica?"

Well, umm, you know, umm.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 28 @ 1:26 PM ET
He's also been groomed and trained by agents long before he was drafted. I followed Colton Sissons (since his mother and I worked closely together) since he was drafted from bantam and played 3 years in Kelowna, 2 as the Captain, he was interviewed quite frequently and never had an issue with making any sort of comments that could be taken the wrong way.

You can't use the excuse that he needs to learn and get guidance, he's not 18, he's 20 and should be fully capable of giving an interview saying nothing. The fact of the matter is, the NHL can't afford loose cannons running their mouths, he needs to shut up, get over himself and (frank)ing play hockey or find another career.

- DariusKnight

"Loose cannons" lol....it's not a linear ability for all individuals. He needs guidance or direction from the Canucks or you'll see the same behaviour over and over again.
nucks_94
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 12.05.2008

Nov 28 @ 1:27 PM ET
Loose canons lol....it's not a linear ability for all individuals. He needs guidance or direction from the Canucks or you'll see the same behaviour over and over again.
- LeftCoaster

Jesus Christ

The hyperbole in this thread is pretty entertaining
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 28 @ 1:28 PM ET
"Jake, how do you feel about your assignment to Utica?"

Well, umm, you know, umm.

- golfingsince

You forgot to ad a couple "like" 's in there
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 28 @ 1:30 PM ET
"Loose cannons" lol....it's not a linear ability for all individuals. He needs guidance or direction from the Canucks or you'll see the same behaviour over and over again.
- LeftCoaster

I have no issue with anything Jake has said. I have an issue with his soft and disinterested play.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun, AZ
Joined: 07.03.2009

Nov 28 @ 1:31 PM ET
I have no issue with anything Jake has said. I have an issue with his soft and disinterested play.
- CanuckDon

Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Nov 28 @ 1:32 PM ET
I love 'Freak Out Mondays'!!!
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Nov 28 @ 1:35 PM ET
I love 'Freak Out Mondays'!!!
- Marwood

and we won last game
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