With a trade, he has to find another team willing to trade where he can make the team better both now and in the future. Not sure he'll be able to find a partner.

At the same time, he doesn't seem like the type of GM to call a player up just to "shake things up" so to speak. He'll call a player up when he thinks they can be contributors to the NHL club, barring injury call-ups.
- jmatchett383

He needs to start targeting picks with our older players like he has been but use those picks on players who can put the puck in the net. This forward core from the NHL to the junior ranks isn't self sustaining. There doesn't seem to be a player with more than mediocre goal scoring ability.

Was Weise maybe a panic move to add size? I thought it would turn out better than most but right now it isn't looking great.

I would have loved to known if they were in on Colton Sceviour. I thought he would have been perfect here and added some size for probably less money,
- J35Bacher

It was a wasted signing. He's not getting taken in the expansion draft and he can barely stay on the bench right now. The deal was a bad one.

He needs to start targeting picks with our older players like he has been but use those picks on players who can put the puck in the net. This forward core from the NHL to the junior ranks isn't self sustaining. There doesn't seem to be a player with more than mediocre goal scoring ability.
- mayorofangrytown

I thought he had a solid draft this year. They seemed to target a lot of solid two way guys with size. Guys that were system fits. Maybe this year they look for a more sniper type or maybe that is a guy they target in FA when they are ready to contend.

It was a wasted signing. He's not getting taken in the expansion draft and he can barely stay on the bench right now. The deal was a bad one.
- mayorofangrytown

What sucks is two guys I thought would be great low cost/high reward types both signed in Florida. I really wanted Massusault and Scevior.

Here is my thinking.

If I am trading someone at the deadline I would be looking back to get guys that are younger and can be part of the future, high picks, and players I might not have to protect.

Manning on the deal he is on is valuable to the Flyers because the cap hit is low. I hope he continues to play well because if he can play a 4/5/6 role at his cap hit I can use money somewhere else like a sniper or 3rd line center.
- J35Bacher

who is going to be available? a young player that doesnt fit in another teams plans or has too many people to protect? or a player that is exempt from expansion?

Was Weise maybe a panic move to add size? I thought it would turn out better than most but right now it isn't looking great.

I would have loved to known if they were in on Colton Sceviour. I thought he would have been perfect here and added some size for probably less money,
- J35Bacher

I wouldn't call it a panic move. There were plenty of teams interested because he's been capable in the past of providing exactly what Hextall was looking for. He's only 15 games in, let him settle in before declaring him a bottom 6 bust.

Was Weise maybe a panic move to add size? I thought it would turn out better than most but right now it isn't looking great.

I would have loved to known if they were in on Colton Sceviour. I thought he would have been perfect here and added some size for probably less money,
- J35Bacher

No, Weise did not cost any player assets.

It was a wasted signing. He's not getting taken in the expansion draft and he can barely stay on the bench right now. The deal was a bad one.
- mayorofangrytown

You may up being right about that, but too early to state that definitively right now.

No, Weise did not cost any player assets.
- MJL

No, Weise did not cost any player assets.
- MJL

Just a roster spot and cap space. But I guess they aren't assets to a team.

It was a wasted signing. He's not getting taken in the expansion draft and he can barely stay on the bench right now. The deal was a bad one.
- mayorofangrytown

George McPhee posts here, wow.

Just a roster spot and cap space. But I guess they aren't assets to a team.
- J35Bacher

I clearly stated player assets. If you want Weise's roster spot for another player, that is easily done. Cap space is another issue.

What sucks is two guys I thought would be great low cost/high reward types both signed in Florida. I really wanted Massusault and Scevior.
- J35Bacher

Preach

Not every free agent signing is a home run out of the gate.

Does anyone remember the start of Hartnell's Flyers career?

More recently, MDZ and Schultz struggled badly before finding their niches and increased roles. Raffl was labeled as the plug who stole Simon Gagne's comeback season.

I'm not saying Weise is going to be dynamite from here on out but how about rooting for some of these guys instead of condemning them.

Was Weise maybe a panic move to add size? I thought it would turn out better than most but right now it isn't looking great.

I would have loved to known if they were in on Colton Sceviour. I thought he would have been perfect here and added some size for probably less money,
- J35Bacher

Dale is a complete wiese of time. Can't hit every signing out of the park. At least Gordon has been rock solid.

With Chad Johnson heating up, does anyone think that Elliot may be on the move? What about a Dougie Hamilton package deal...Two solid players (I think) . Can anyone here foresee any negotiations with the flames?

Not every free agent signing is a home run out of the gate.

Does anyone remember the start of Hartnell's Flyer's career?

More recently, MDZ and Schultz struggled badly before finding their niches and increased roles. Raffl was labeled as the plug who stole Simon Gagne's comeback season.

I'm not saying Weise is going to be dynamite from here on out but how about rooting for some of these guys instead of condemning them.
- Baxter27

I think everyone is rooting for him. But here's the thing. It's not just putting up points. He was supposed to be a guy to bring an edge and some chippiness to replace Ryan White.

Effort is not something that takes talent.

Dale is a complete wiese of time. Can't hit every signing out of the park. At least Gordon has been rock solid.
- PLindbergh31

I understand why both guys were signed. And I know we won't hit on every one. I also feel Gordon was signed because Bardreau got hurt. I really think Bardreau had a shot at the 4th line center role this year before he got hurt.

At least Gordon is only one year though.

Was Weise maybe a panic move to add size? I thought it would turn out better than most but right now it isn't looking great.

I would have loved to known if they were in on Colton Sceviour. I thought he would have been perfect here and added some size for probably less money,
- J35Bacher

We gave up no players for Weise. It's not likw how we traded Bobrovsky for Mason

I understand why both guys were signed. And I know we won't hit on every one. I also feel Gordon was signed because Bardreau got hurt. I really think Bardreau had a shot at the 4th line center role this year before he got hurt.

At least Gordon is only one year though.
- J35Bacher

look at this we got read expiring, then raffl, then weise lets use ease better players in the line up can't have new faces coming in all the time

look at this we got read expiring, then raffl, then weise lets use ease better players in the line up can't have new faces coming in all the time
- 2Real

I don't mind Raffl.

I think he is a solid role player.

With Chad Johnson heating up, does anyone think that Elliot may be on the move? What about a Dougie Hamilton package deal...Two solid players (I think) . Can anyone here foresee any negotiations with the flames?
- dmorin

If Hamilton is really on the trade block, which he shouldn't be, the cost is going to be very high

I think everyone is rooting for him. But here's the thing. It's not just putting up points. He was supposed to be a guy to bring an edge and some chippiness to replace Ryan White.

Effort is not something that takes talent.
- J35Bacher

Early on I can agree he was trying to be too much of a play maker which was beyond his skill level.

Lately, I think he's been making gains towards what makes him effective. Keeping his game simple and being a consistent presence on the forecheck. He needs to start creating more chaos down low and around the net. I agree with that.

[quote=jmatchet

its going to depend on what other young players are left available. you know LV is going to take some "prospects". not every one of the guys taken will be current NHL rostered guys.

The pens are in an interesting situation. MAF has a NMC so he automatically has to be protected. that means Murray will be available unless they either trade him or get MAF to waive his NMC

It was a wasted signing. He's not getting taken in the expansion draft and he can barely stay on the bench right now. The deal was a bad one.
- mayorofangrytown

Pretty much