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YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 21 @ 12:57 PM ET
$$$
- jmatchett383


getting paid salary and remaining a cap hit are 2 different things
dms388
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.17.2009

Nov 21 @ 12:58 PM ET
Has anyone else noticed that all of Ghost's partners seem to struggle defensively? This includes solid defensive defensemen like Schultz, Macdonald and MDZ. Why? It is difficult to be so great defensively to make up for a partner who doesn't play defense. These guys are solid NHLers but that is it. Ghost is a talented offensive threat but he isn't so good offensively that I would put up with his defense if I was his coach. Move Ghost to the wing, he could be a Sami Kapanen type of winger who can use as a defensemen in case of injury. Then you can have 3 pairings which all 6 can be trusted throughout the game (rather than not playing if the Flyers have a lead with 5 minutes left in the game) and can kill penalties (two things Ghost never does).
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 21 @ 1:00 PM ET
because there are just soooo many reasons the Flyers would want to trade him
- YuenglingJagr


I'd do it for Carey Price.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 21 @ 1:01 PM ET
Has anyone else noticed that all of Ghost's partners seem to struggle defensively? This includes solid defensive defensemen like Schultz, Macdonald and MDZ. Why? It is difficult to be so great defensively to make up for a partner who doesn't play defense. These guys are solid NHLers but that is it. Ghost is a talented offensive threat but he isn't so good offensively that I would put up with his defense if I was his coach. Move Ghost to the wing, he could be a Sami Kapanen type of winger who can use as a defensemen in case of injury. Then you can have 3 pairings which all 6 can be trusted throughout the game (rather than not playing if the Flyers have a lead with 5 minutes left in the game) and can kill penalties (two things Ghost never does).
- dms388

in b4 lolz
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 21 @ 1:01 PM ET
getting paid salary and remaining a cap hit are 2 different things
- YuenglingJagr


Probably has something to do with the HRR split in the CBA.

And I agree, but you weren't clear.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 21 @ 1:01 PM ET
I'd do it for Carey Price.
- jmatchett383

bold
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 1:02 PM ET
where are the AMac and Schultz rumors!?!?!
- YuenglingJagr



Hextall is keeping that under wraps.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 21 @ 1:02 PM ET
Has anyone else noticed that all of Ghost's partners seem to struggle defensively? This includes solid defensive defensemen like Schultz, Macdonald and MDZ. Why? It is difficult to be so great defensively to make up for a partner who doesn't play defense. These guys are solid NHLers but that is it. Ghost is a talented offensive threat but he isn't so good offensively that I would put up with his defense if I was his coach. Move Ghost to the wing, he could be a Sami Kapanen type of winger who can use as a defensemen in case of injury. Then you can have 3 pairings which all 6 can be trusted throughout the game (rather than not playing if the Flyers have a lead with 5 minutes left in the game) and can kill penalties (two things Ghost never does).
- dms388


What???
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 21 @ 1:04 PM ET
bold
- YuenglingJagr


I just skimmed their roster. If they want him as a partner for Weber, then Weber's off the table. Price is the only other player on that team that really popped out at me, although Galchenyuk and Beaulieu are nice.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 21 @ 1:06 PM ET
I just skimmed their roster. If they want him as a partner for Weber, then Weber's off the table. Price is the only other player on that team that really popped out at me, although Galchenyuk and Beaulieu are nice.
- jmatchett383



It doesn't make sense in that if Gostisbehere is struggling defensivly than why pair him with their top defenseman who plays a heavy minutes and shutdown role. I would think they would be more interested in Trouba or Dougie Hamilton.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Nov 21 @ 1:09 PM ET
It doesn't make sense in that if Gostisbehere is struggling defensivly than why pair him with their top defenseman who plays a heavy minutes and shutdown role. I would think they would be more interested in Trouba or Dougie Hamilton.
- J35Bacher



Just one of the reasons why the rumor doesn't make a lot of sense. Young quality defenseman are like gold in the league today.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 21 @ 1:10 PM ET
It doesn't make sense in that if Gostisbehere is struggling defensivly than why pair him with their top defenseman who plays a heavy minutes and shutdown role. I would think they would be more interested in Trouba or Dougie Hamilton.
- J35Bacher


They're both right-handed. But yes, in a nutshell, you're right.

He's not going to get traded (e4).
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Nov 21 @ 1:17 PM ET
They're both right-handed. But yes, in a nutshell, you're right.

He's not going to get traded (e4).

- jmatchett383



I could see a guy like Del Zotto if they still need another dman at the TDL.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Nov 21 @ 1:18 PM ET
because there are just soooo many reasons the Flyers would want to trade him
- YuenglingJagr


Don't kill the messenger. Just throwing it out there for chatter.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Nov 21 @ 1:27 PM ET
Sorry to go off topic, but Vontaze Burfict may be the biggest douchebag in NA sports.
- jmatchett383


Never heard of him
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 21 @ 1:28 PM ET
Sorry to go off topic, but Vontaze Burfict may be the biggest douchebag in NA sports.
- jmatchett383

pretty much the reason he went undrafted too
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 21 @ 1:29 PM ET
I just skimmed their roster. If they want him as a partner for Weber, then Weber's off the table. Price is the only other player on that team that really popped out at me, although Galchenyuk and Beaulieu are nice.
- jmatchett383

i like mccarron but i see no reason to trade him to MTL
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Nov 21 @ 1:44 PM ET
So Q1 into the season here are my expansion draft selected protections. I do expect MDZ to win a spot back on the list but he hasn't justified an extension just yet.

Giroux
Voracek
Couturier
Simmonds
Schenn
Raffl
Cousins

Ghost
Gudas
Manning

Mason
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Nov 21 @ 1:48 PM ET
So Q1 into the season here are my expansion draft selected protections. I do expect MDZ to win a spot back on the list but he hasn't justified an extension just yet.

Giroux
Voracek
Couturier
Simmonds
Schenn
Raffl
Cousins

Ghost
Gudas
Manning

Mason

- Baxter27


That's how I see it, too. Although I doubt Cousins would get taken.
YuenglingJagr
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: under the bridge
Joined: 10.05.2015

Nov 21 @ 1:52 PM ET
So Q1 into the season here are my expansion draft selected protections. I do expect MDZ to win a spot back on the list but he hasn't justified an extension just yet.

Giroux
Voracek
Couturier
Simmonds
Schenn
Raffl
Cousins

Ghost
Gudas
Manning

Mason

- Baxter27


I will be disappointed if Manning ends up as the 3rd defenseman protected
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Nov 21 @ 1:56 PM ET
That's how I see it, too. Although I doubt Cousins would get taken.
- jmatchett383


You're probably right, Laughton and Leier could force themselves some consideration. Cousins is the best of the 3 right now though. Read had a great start but has begun to fade. Weise will need to have a stellar rest of the season to justify protection.
Baxter27
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.03.2007

Nov 21 @ 1:58 PM ET
I will be disappointed if Manning ends up as the 3rd defenseman protected
- YuenglingJagr


Depends on the reason, it could mean MDZ continued to struggle and/or was traded at the TDL. What would you prefer to Manning in that case...a trade?
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Nov 21 @ 1:59 PM ET
I keep coming back to the Weise signing being an expansion maneuver. Big body forward who has played in the West before, very reasonable contract for an expansion team that is going to have a lot of money to throw around.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 21 @ 2:00 PM ET
Has anyone else noticed that all of Ghost's partners seem to struggle defensively? This includes solid defensive defensemen like Schultz, Macdonald and MDZ. Why? It is difficult to be so great defensively to make up for a partner who doesn't play defense. These guys are solid NHLers but that is it. Ghost is a talented offensive threat but he isn't so good offensively that I would put up with his defense if I was his coach. Move Ghost to the wing, he could be a Sami Kapanen type of winger who can use as a defensemen in case of injury. Then you can have 3 pairings which all 6 can be trusted throughout the game (rather than not playing if the Flyers have a lead with 5 minutes left in the game) and can kill penalties (two things Ghost never does).
- dms388

TRADE GHOST
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Nov 21 @ 2:03 PM ET
hmm should i drop Halak for Ward? I can't see the Islanders playing this bad all season though
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