Der Kaiser
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Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK! Joined: 07.27.2007
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Problem is besides the last 15 games or so last yesr, Kane actually brought down Eichel and O'Reilly's scoring when he was on there lines last year.
Kane is not a guy who developed chemistry with really anyone over his career. - sbroads24
Serious question cause I thought they played really well together once that line got put together: how many more than 15 games did they play as a line? |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Reinhart is 21. Matthews is 18, and is still better than Reinhart now and I'm not sure it's remotely close - sbroads24
I'm not comparing the 2 players though, am I?
What I am doing...
is comparing the attitude when our guy struggles vs when other guys do so
We see Reinhart every night,
So it seems so much worse
He'll be fine
Everyone was thrilled with his production last year, right?
It's not like the kid suddenly forgot how to play hockey |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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That makes his point even more so. Matthews is way better and even he's having difficulties. So let's not rag on Reinhart too hard. - Wetbandit1
His difficulties are 12 points in his first 15 NHL games. |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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So if Reinhart scores 2 in 15,
Then the sky is falling
But if Matthews scores 2 in 14,
No big deal he'll break out of it
Stop being so dramatic
Reinhart had a really nice rookie year
He'll rebound & be a good player for us
He's just not gonna be "Kucherov"
If that's what you're expecting,
Then you're gonna be very disappointed - jdfitz77
I am expecting him to perform like The projected forward we picked and we tanked for
I'm expecting him to make players around him better that's why we drafted him
I'm expecting him to show up every game when barkov is not putting up points you still notice him |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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That makes his point even more so. Matthews is way better and even he's having difficulties. So let's not rag on Reinhart too hard. - Wetbandit1
Good point |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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I'm not comparing the 2 players though, am I?
What I am doing...
is comparing the attitude when our guy struggles vs when other guys do so
We see Reinhart every night,
So it seems so much worse
He'll be fine
Everyone was thrilled with his production last year, right?
It's not like the kid suddenly forgot how to play hockey - jdfitz77
Honest question. Do you see Reinhart ever being a top line NHL center? I don't think he is close to that type of player.
That's what we thought we drafted. That's what people are disappointed about |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Serious question cause I thought they played really well together once that line got put together: how many more than 15 games did they play as a line? - Der Kaiser
23/15/9? I'm not sure to be honest.
In the beginning of the year that line with 15/9 struggled. Then 9/90 struggled for a while. |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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Serious question cause I thought they played really well together once that line got put together: how many more than 15 games did they play as a line? - Der Kaiser
Eichel and Kane played maybe 10-12 games at the beginning of the season together. And then not a lot for a long time before near the end of the season. |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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His difficulties are 12 points in his first 15 NHL games. - sbroads24
Other than his spectacular first game he hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire. |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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Other than his spectacular first game he hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire. - Wetbandit1
He won't get the fire torches when the other top rookies are stepping up
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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Up to 6 (frank)ing guys on IR on my hockey team:
Athanasiou, Jannik Hansen, Seidenberg(new addition), Tanev, Ennis, and Parise who's been out for a few weeks and will likely be out for a little yet. And Myers is hurt again. |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Other than his spectacular first game he hasn't exactly been lighting the world on fire. - Wetbandit1
He's averaged something like 4+ shots per game. His production will start to skyrocket if he keeps that pace |
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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Honest question. Do you see Reinhart ever being a top line NHL center? I don't think he is close to that type of player.
That's what we thought we drafted. That's what people are disappointed about - sbroads24
I thought we were getting a 20-25goals with 50+assists guy,
Who would play good in all areas of the ice
BUT...
he hasn't been playing Center at all except for a couple games here n there
Expecting him to "make those around him better" when he's playing a new position & doesn't have the puck on his stick as much...
idk if that's reasonable?
What would your answer to that question have been before this season started? |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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I am expecting him to perform like The projected forward we picked and we tanked for
I'm expecting him to make players around him better that's why we drafted him
I'm expecting him to show up every game when barkov is not putting up points you still notice him - GERBE!!!75PTS
We tanked for McDavid, not Reinhart. Yes we "tanked" to get a good player in Reinhart's year, but the main target was the next year with McDavid and Eichel.
How do you know why we drafted him? Also NHL players are really hard to project, that's why the miss rate is so ridiculously high. |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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He's averaged something like 4+ shots per game. His production should start to skyrocket if he keeps that pace - sbroads24
FTFY
Bottom line is he's struggling. He'll be fine, but you can't deny that he's not struggling. Also I'd be keen on seeing a shot chart for him to see where the shots are coming from. |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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We tanked for McDavid, not Reinhart. Yes we "tanked" to get a good player in Reinhart's year, but the main target was the next year with McDavid and Eichel.
How do you know why we drafted him? Also NHL players are really hard to project, that's why the miss rate is so ridiculously high. - Wetbandit1
How do people forget that we tanked ?? For reinhart
We Did for both ..
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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: buffalo, NY Joined: 05.21.2007
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How do people forget that we tanked ?? For reinhart
We Did for both .. - GERBE!!!75PTS
It wasn't for "Reinhart" though...
There was no specific player
And Regardless what Murray said,
If we picked 1st then it was gonna be Ekblad
Or trade down |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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How do people forget that we tanked ?? For reinhart
We Did for both .. - GERBE!!!75PTS
We didn't tank specifically for Reinhart like we did for McDavid. If McDavid wasn't coming up the next year I highly doubt we tank as hard as we did. Because it's really hard to pull out of a tank as we're seeing first hand now. That's my point. |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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It wasn't for "Reinhart" though...
There was no specific player
And Regardless what Murray said,
If we picked 1st then it was gonna be Ekblad
Or trade down - jdfitz77
We had no center depth at that time and a loaded prospect pool of defenseman he was going to take a center It's like passing on a quarterback when you don't have one |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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FTFY
Bottom line is he's struggling. He'll be fine, but you can't deny that he's not struggling. Also I'd be keen on seeing a shot chart for him to see where the shots are coming from. - Wetbandit1
He's really not though. He has 12 points, is a 55% possession player, and has a PDO of 94 which is ridiculously low.
If he wasn't producing shots or scoring chances, or was a drag on possession, I'd say he's struggling
Reinhart has impressive possession numbers, but isn't generating close to the amount of potential scoring he should
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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We didn't tank specifically for Reinhart like we did for McDavid. If McDavid wasn't coming up the next year I highly doubt we tank as hard as we did. Because it's really hard to pull out of a tank as we're seeing first hand now. That's my point. - Wetbandit1
They didn't specifically tank they still signed a bunch of free agents to help with scoring ..
Once things started going south then they just started tanking and getting rid of everybody
We had a way worse roster in 2014 Then the 2015 |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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Has anybody ever let YT pick the next video to play? You get to some really weird places after just 2 or 3 auto-pick videos. |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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Has anybody ever let YT pick the next video to play? You get to some really weird places after just 2 or 3 auto-pick videos. - Wetbandit1
I'm too busy listening to all the girls cry today about beauty in the beast Lol |
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Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights |
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Location: Hail Satan Joined: 10.07.2010
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They didn't specifically tank they still signed a bunch of free agents to help with scoring ..
Once things started going south then they just started tanking and getting rid of everybody
We had a way worse roster in 2014 Then the 2015 - GERBE!!!75PTS
You just made my point. They pulled a TO from the McDavid year and started late. They ended up getting there though, but they were trying to win at first, but when they realized it wasn't working they tanked, and fired Darcy, they tried to get the best player they could. McDavid was the target right from that moment. Whoever they got that year was a bonus. |
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GERBE!!!75PTS
San Jose Sharks |
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Location: Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." - Jack Eichel-, CA Joined: 02.11.2009
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You just made my point. They pulled a TO from the McDavid year and started late. They ended up getting there though, but they were trying to win at first, but when they realized it wasn't working they tanked, and fired Darcy, they tried to get the best player they could. McDavid was the target right from that moment. Whoever they got that year was a bonus. - Wetbandit1
But they started the tank for 2014 when they traded Vanek away The goal was to get to topline centers I believe |
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