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systemtool
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Real men always have to poo, ON
Joined: 09.12.2007

Nov 12 @ 4:48 PM ET
I think he will do it eventually, but hes only 21 years old (turning that in September)
When he is 23-24 and still can't crack that mark then I would be getting worried bc then its a sign he never will crack it.

People just assume that if you are 1st overall that you should be on fire out of the gate, especially if you enter the league at 18. He played 3 years under Roy and got jerked around the roster, asking to do things he should have to do. Now he is under a new coach. He hasn't had the best start to his NHL career when it comes to coaching stability. I dont have any issues with MacK and what he has done up to date. If he had Bednar to start his career instead of Roy, I think he would be 70 point player already

- DDM-Coga



Fair or unfair the expectations for first overalls are high. I agree he's young and can turn it around, hence why I would wait for it.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Nov 12 @ 4:52 PM ET
Fair or unfair the expectations for first overalls are high. I agree he's young and can turn it around, hence why I would wait for it.
- systemtool


Some Av Fans on twitter are already calling him a bust and wanting to trade him. Honestly dont understand how people can jump off that ledge already.

Its fair that tougher on him, should be higher expectations, but this isnt a Yakupov being lost everytime he steps on the ice. MacK still does jaw dropping stuff all the time, just whatever reason he is cursed when it comes to scoring. I would love to see how many posts he has hit this season. Its mind boggling right now
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Nov 12 @ 4:53 PM ET
Just noticed Matthews is hovering around a point per game. People can use the Laine chirp all they want. If Matthews keeps this pace up as a rookie, while learning to play as an NHL centre then there should be no question the Leafs made the right pick.
burn
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tavares is sledge hockey level - Islesrbettr, ON
Joined: 08.02.2006

Nov 12 @ 4:56 PM ET
Just noticed Matthews is hovering around a point per game. People can use the Laine chirp all they want. If Matthews keeps this pace up as a rookie, while learning to play as an NHL centre then there should be no question the Leafs made the right pick.
- BetterCallSaul




Hahah you drafted a big franchise center scoring ppg as a rookie in the nhl.


DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Nov 12 @ 4:58 PM ET
Hahah you drafted a big franchise center scoring ppg as a rookie in the nhl.



- burn

Clearly auston BUSTthews
CanadianBodmon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.04.2011

Nov 12 @ 4:58 PM ET
Clearly auston BUSTthews
- DDM-Coga


All the guy can do is hit posts and crossbars, what a bum.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Nov 12 @ 4:59 PM ET
All the guy can do is hit posts and crossbars, what a bum.
- CanadianBodmon


send him to the Marlies, move Smith up the depth chart
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 12 @ 5:01 PM ET
Just noticed Matthews is hovering around a point per game. People can use the Laine chirp all they want. If Matthews keeps this pace up as a rookie, while learning to play as an NHL centre then there should be no question the Leafs made the right pick.
- BetterCallSaul


Yep, even if Laine turns out to be Ovechkin 2.0, I'll take the centre. It's teams built around a drafted centre that have won Cups.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Nov 12 @ 5:01 PM ET
Hahah you drafted a big franchise center scoring ppg as a rookie in the nhl.



- burn

Keeps this pace up (which is unlikely) he'll end up with 72 points. Much higher than the 55 I thought he would get. 65 seems like a much more reasonable target. Which is pretty spectacular for a rookie.
CanadianBodmon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.04.2011

Nov 12 @ 5:02 PM ET
send him to the Marlies, move Smith up the depth chart
- DDM-Coga


I want more Colin Greening
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Nov 12 @ 5:03 PM ET
I want more Colin Greening
- CanadianBodmon


and cowens return when both decide they dont want to be bought out
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Nov 12 @ 5:03 PM ET
and cowens return when both decide they dont want to be bought out
- DDM-Coga

That little storyline needs to end soon. Can't help but feel a lot of plans for roster moves hinge on that contract.
CanadianBodmon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.04.2011

Nov 12 @ 5:04 PM ET
Keeps this pace up (which is unlikely) he'll end up with 72 points. Much higher than the 55 I thought he would get. 65 seems like a much more reasonable target. Which is pretty spectacular for a rookie.
- BetterCallSaul


Makes him top 30 in the league during his debut. I'm in!
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

Nov 12 @ 5:06 PM ET
That little storyline needs to end soon. Can't help but feel a lot of plans for roster moves hinge on that contract.
- BetterCallSaul


I dont know why a team like Coyotes or Jackets just didnt trade for him. IF they get a credit for buying him out, would have made sense.
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 12 @ 5:08 PM ET
Hahah you drafted a big franchise center scoring ppg as a rookie in the nhl.



- burn



Yeah, but, the Leafs could have had a guy who is benefiting from playing with two legitimate first line forwards, instead of two other rookies. Stoopid Laffs fans. 1967. Kerry Fraser.
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Nov 12 @ 5:09 PM ET
I dont know why a team like Coyotes or Jackets just didnt trade for him. IF they get a credit for buying him out, would have made sense.
- DDM-Coga

Yeah. The cap credit concerns me less than the bottleneck the contract is causing. Can't really make any moves if you may have 4 mil or whatever magically appearing back on your books.
daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 12 @ 5:10 PM ET
Yep, even if Laine turns out to be Ovechkin 2.0, I'll take the centre. It's teams built around a drafted centre that have won Cups.
- Zezel

I'm totally sure Laine's shooting % is totally sustainable. 24%, all the top goal scorers score that frequently!
BetterCallSaul
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Captain Morgan Rielly
Joined: 05.07.2013

Nov 12 @ 5:11 PM ET
Yeah, but, the Leafs could have had a guy who is benefiting from playing with two legitimate first line forwards, instead of two other rookies. Stoopid Laffs fans. 1967. Kerry Fraser.
- Steven_Seagull

Stoopid leaves. Could have had the guy with 11 goals and 5 apples. Sure sign of a better player.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 12 @ 5:13 PM ET
I'm totally sure Laine's shooting % is totally sustainable. 24%, all the top goal scorers score that frequently!
- daeth


He's gonna score the most goals ever!
Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 12 @ 5:13 PM ET
Stoopid leaves. Could have had the guy with 11 goals and 5 apples. Sure sign of a better player.
- BetterCallSaul



You forgot to mention 1967.

7/10 troll attempt
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Nov 12 @ 5:15 PM ET
everyone has their own opinion. i think he is far from an elite talent. someone who has no problem grinding which every team needs. problem is they are a dime a dozen
- Mandree85


Brown will never be a scoring superstar. If that is what you are looking for, look at Marner. We used up a high first rounder to get Marner though. Brown cost a 6th. Brown looks like he's a definite NHLer with the talent to become a decent 3rd liner, possibly even a 2nd liner someday. Maybe a 3rd liner you can move up if you want to shake up your lines or there is an injury. He can chip in offensively, has a high hockey IQ, he's fairly quick, tough, good defensively, and he's cheap on his ELC.

1st rounders aren't even guarantees to make the NHL, so to get a 6th that turns into Brown is awesome. Consider that Tyler Biggs was a first round pick. Think of all the 1sts that teams have used over the last several years that appear to be busts, or just players with less ability than Brown possesses.

Drafting good players like Brown in the later rounds is how teams become great. They have him, instead of giving a contract to some overhyped, overpaid free agent that will likely do a worse job.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 12 @ 5:16 PM ET
Brown will never be a scoring superstar. If that is what you are looking for, look at Marner. We used up a high first rounder to get Marner though. Brown cost a 6th. Brown looks like he's a definite NHLer with the talent to become a decent 3rd liner, possibly even a 2nd liner someday. Maybe a 3rd liner you can move up if you want to shake up your lines or there is an injury. He can chip in offensively, has a high hockey IQ, he's fairly quick, tough, good defensively, and he's cheap on his ELC.

1st rounders aren't even guarantees to make the NHL, so to get a 6th that turns into Brown is awesome. Consider that Tyler Biggs was a first round pick. Think of all the 1sts that teams have used over the last several years that appear to be busts, or just players with less ability than Brown possesses.

Drafting good players like Brown in the later rounds is how teams become great. They have him, instead of giving a contract to some overhyped, overpaid free agent that will likely do a worse job.

- Thecakeisalie

Steven_Seagull
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mitch Marner sucks
Joined: 03.03.2016

Nov 12 @ 5:17 PM ET
Brown will never be a scoring superstar. If that is what you are looking for, look at Marner. We used up a high first rounder to get Marner though. Brown cost a 6th. Brown looks like he's a definite NHLer with the talent to become a decent 3rd liner, possibly even a 2nd liner someday. Maybe a 3rd liner you can move up if you want to shake up your lines or there is an injury. He can chip in offensively, has a high hockey IQ, he's fairly quick, tough, good defensively, and he's cheap on his ELC.

1st rounders aren't even guarantees to make the NHL, so to get a 6th that turns into Brown is awesome. Consider that Tyler Biggs was a first round pick. Think of all the 1sts that teams have used over the last several years that appear to be busts, or just players with less ability than Brown possesses.

Drafting good players like Brown in the later rounds is how teams become great. They have him, instead of giving a contract to some overhyped, overpaid free agent that will likely do a worse job.

- Thecakeisalie



daeth
Colorado Avalanche
Location: 43 points, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Nov 12 @ 5:17 PM ET
He's gonna score the most goals ever!
- Zezel

17 goals on 253 shots in the Finnish league last year.

They have way better d and way better goalies in the finnish league though so that obviously explains why he scored on 6.7% of his shots and not 24% of his shots though.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

Nov 12 @ 5:20 PM ET
17 goals on 253 shots in the Finnish league last year.

They have way better d and way better goalies in the finnish league though so that obviously explains why he scored on 6.7% of his shots and not 24% of his shots though.

- daeth


Yeah it's weird, I thought there'd be more finish in that league.
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